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Getting my DH back

449 replies

wXyZ123 · 01/11/2019 12:21

I have been with my DH for over 30 years, he has left me, I don’t think he is happy, I would like him to come back and I am frightened of being alone, this is my story, please help me.

As soon as I met my in-laws I felt intimidated by them. DH shared too much information with them, was too influenced by them, put them first and became melancholy after he saw them. I asked him not to see them, to keep away for as long as it took for things to improve. We had occasional contact which always upset us both.

After about 5 years we married, my parents were unwell and could not attend, I did not want DH’s family there.

After our children were born we saw DH’s sister, we all seemed to get on ok but the relationship fizzled out, DH says that was because there was always an “elephant in the room” – the broken relationship with his parents who even now I have only allowed to see our 18 year old children twice.

I was frustrated that rather than build a social life for us or to recognise the efforts I had made with his sister, DH seemed only to focus on what he did not have with his parents and sister.

Nine years ago, I discovered DH was seeing his parents and contacting his sister behind my back, I gave him an “us or them” ultimatum. Later I discovered I had breast cancer, my oncologist told me the stress of discovering DH’s deceit in seeing his parents may have been a contributory factor. I told DH, I don’t think he accepts any responsibility. Our already minimal sex life dropped to non-existent.

DH tried to broker a thaw in relationships, but all that happened was that he and I rowed, he never saw how hurt I was by his parent’s attitude to me , how frightened I was, only how we had wronged them and how he felt

Three years ago DH walked out, leaving me alone with our children. I let him have space but told him I could not cope unless there was a chance of reconciliation. He said there was, we met a few times, he said he felt he should return but did not want to.

After a year he seemed to want to return, but confessed to an affair with a former girlfriend I was devastated. DH and his parents justified his behaviour suggesting I was at least partly culpable. I wanted DH to be contrite and to break all contact with OW . DH wanted me to make returning appealing to him, to promise not to keep him from his parents and sister. Meanwhile OW would not let him go, threatened me with police action if I contacted her and suggested to the police that DH had been the victim of coercive control inflicted by me. As a result of the police threat and learning of the affair our children don’t want to see DH till the OW is out of the picture.

Now DH tells me that the guilt he feels at having only seen our children once in 3 years (and not at all since he confessed to his affair), at leaving me alone to do everything, at the sorrow he has inflicted, makes him want to return but that he loves OW.

I think DH is depressed and unhappy, that he should leave OW and then try to rebuild a life with me and our children. DH says he wishes he could; rewind time, had handled our differences better and had not got into the position he has.

How can I resolve this? I want the best for me, for DH and our children. When I tell DH how I blame OW he defends her, says its not her fault and that she was his life raft in time of need, that he would like us all (his parents, sister and OW) to be friends – I tell him that is cloud cuckoo land which seems to drive him back to OW

What should I do?

OP posts:
Tennesseewhiskey · 01/11/2019 15:18

I know someone who banned her in laws from the wedding because her dad was dead and she didnt speak to her mum.

Apparantly, having g her husbands to be parents there were too painful. She was totally unapologetic. Even after the wedding she did want him to have a relationship with his parents and essentially banned them from having contact.

I dont work with her any longer. But I did here he eventually left her and hot his relationship back with his parents.

Her attitude was just awful.

SueDoeName · 01/11/2019 15:23

Reading op again it's all "I want I want I want !"

I hope she does come back . This is someone who really needs a reality check. How can anyone be so blind to what they've done and still expect their long gone ex to keep taking this treatment and come back.

Luckybe40 · 01/11/2019 15:26

Do you know your behaviour is actually criminal behaviour? If your DH was to go to the police and tell them everything about your controlling ways of what you have written about (and God knows what else, I dread to think!) you could ACTUALLY be arrested for coercive control. It’s illegal and the police are starting to take this very seriously. Just something to think about. I’d be pretty fucking nice to your DH from now on, his partner seems to be on the ball. And he’s depressed because he has been abused and controlled for 30 years. That does something to someone you knowSad

insanepizza · 01/11/2019 15:28

I agree that you make amends by helping your children see that their father is not someone they should block out of their life.
Let your husband carry on with his life and build your own.

Baboomtsk · 01/11/2019 15:31

What I find most disconcerting about this thread is that when you recount cutting your husband off from his family or trying to make him accept responsibility for your breast cancer it doesn't seem to dawn on you for a second that what you did was wrong or would be perceived as such by others.

I think you need to try to get to the bottom of why that is, I wouldn't rule out some form of personality disorder.

user1471449295 · 01/11/2019 15:41

I wouldn't rule out some form of personality disorder.

This exactly

ChicCroissant · 01/11/2019 15:42

So everything in your life is always someone else's fault OP? Well, no. That's not very likely really rather like this thread so until you can take responsibility for your own actions and the consequences they bring assuming they are your actions and this is not some poor attempt at a reverse which the dramatic language and blame game makes me think it is then it is unlikely that you your DH would want to return to a relationship where his every contact with family is monitored and/or criticised.

If this is a reverse then you are much better out of it and I wouldn't be tempted to return.

Cheeseandwin5 · 01/11/2019 15:43

@hellsbellsmelons
that explains a lot..
You are unwilling to make any negative assumptions against the OP, which is an honourable stance but the problem being you seem determined to blame her hapless DH for everything despite even less information.
There are enough clues about the OP's idea of how things should be and even some of the most supportive of female struggles will be hard pushed to not see it. You dont help by blindly excusing behaviour based on your own prejudices.

Lillygolightly · 01/11/2019 15:47

OP I am sorry you have gone through this but;

You can never force someone to break contact with family. You didn’t get along with his parents, fine! You could have chosen not to see or spend time with them. It is entirely unreasonable to expect your Husband to completely break contact with them on your account.

Even if his parents are the most awful people they are still his mum and his dad who raised him and who he no doubt loves.

I’m sure he married you because he loved you, but loving you does not stop his from loving his parents. I think from the sounds of things he felt very torn and tried very hard to appease you. Ultimately however he could not go completely no contact with his mum and dad. It’s must have been awful for him having to hide this from you.

In terms of the OW if she actually gets along with his parents or at the very least does not forbid him from seeing them, well you just compete and of course he will stay there.

I suspect from what he has said he still has some feeling for you. When he says he wishes he handled things differently I suspect that this also extends to putting his foot down with you earlier on. If he had been firm and said earlier on in your relationship that he could not tolerate having no contact with his parents, you might have had chance to accept that and come to some sort of peace over in. This may or may not have prevented him feeling such that he had to leave and ultimately end up in the arms of another.

I think you have some more honest reflection to do before you can move forward.

FabbyChix · 01/11/2019 15:54

I can’t see what you are trying to achieve your relationship has never been happy so him coming back isn’t going to be any different from before. Is it because you are not able to recognise that what you want your marriage to be like will never happen. You have too much history. You have nothng to build on no reason to reconcile as you have no solid basis to work from

LonginesPrime · 01/11/2019 15:56

I do fucking hate men.
Been screwed over enough to learn not to trust any of them.
Apart from my dad - who is wonderful - bless him.

But hellsbellsmelons if I hate all men, I'll think your dad is just as bad as the rest of them.

Can you see how that would be unfair to the good men like your dad? You can't honestly believe that your dad is the only good man on the planet, surely?

You've been screwed over by bad men, as have I and heaps of other posters. I'm sure many of the posters on this thread recognised the OP's behaviour as similar to what their abusive, controlling, gaslighting ex-husbands have put them through.

Lots of men are bad, but can you see how it's unhelpful to indiscriminately side with women because they are women rather than looking at their behaviour?

It's a person's behaviour that determines whether a person is unreasonable, not their sex.

Toddlerteaplease · 01/11/2019 16:01

So not only did you stop your husband from having a relationship with his own family. You also prevented your children from having a relationship with their own grandparents. You sound delightful. He deserves better.

hellsbellsmelons · 01/11/2019 16:02

I don't always side with the woman.
Honestly.
You can read through my replies over the last goodness knows how many years to see I'm usually objective and do give good advice.
I don't blindly side with the woman.
I've told plenty of men on here to LTB.
And honestly - The only man I trust in this whole wide world, is my dad.

Making her DH choose between his family and this family is awful.
Truly horrible.
But she also states that in the early days, when ever he saw them it had a negative effect on him. So they may well be really abusive.
But I'd like to know how awful the parents are before I make a judgement call on that one.
How many women have we told to run far and fast away from a man with horrible, abusive, controlling parents? LOADS!!!!

BlueEyedBengal · 01/11/2019 16:05

You seem to be a very controlling wife that if he were to go and complain about his treatment ie ( isolation from family, kids, controlled behaviour modifications aggression and blaming this that have nothing to do with him as to again modify and control) and then just imagine that you were the man and he was the women! You know you have broken the law don't you? I know as I have grabbed back control from my extreme controlling husband with the help of some wonderful women friends and I have been married also for 30 yrs. He has escaped you and I hope you have a great big think about the damage you have done and get some therapy to modify your behaviour before you overcome someone else's free will. The biggest mistake your husband could make is to return to you and I hope he's getting over his ordeal and building bridges with his family without you as the sabotage in the workings. Your children will have witnessed your life as parents and will at some stage make up their own minds who is to blame without your interference I hope. You are not commenting to so I figured you are ignoring what's not going your way.

WatchingFromTheWings · 01/11/2019 16:09

Well done to your husband for leaving you. You sound nasty, controlling and manipulative. I hope he's able to repair his relationship with the kids. I suspect they were issued with ultimatums too, hence 3 years of next to no contact.

Potnoodledoo · 01/11/2019 16:14

You do realise @wXyZ123 the kids have probably been seen the family the whole time.

And can i ask how old your kids are.If they are adults they will cotton on to you very soon.Becasue not only have you been abusing your dh,but your dc as well.By not "letting" them have a relationship with other family members.

Im expecting a post from you in a few years saying you are lonely and nobody bothers with you.And you will still play the victim.

DBML · 01/11/2019 16:17

Surely this can’t be true? I don’t like my MiL and she’s done some horrific things to me, but I would never stop my husband seeing his family, ever. I stayed away from her for a few years, but now I am reasonably friendly with her, for my husbands sake.
And saying the DH was responsible in part for causing breast cancer? This just makes me feel sick.
I sincerely hope op is trolling or it’s a made up thread, because this poor man’s life sounds horrific.

LonginesPrime · 01/11/2019 16:18

How many women have we told to run far and fast away from a man with horrible, abusive, controlling parents?

Sure, I get that - but thats usually because the husband isn't standing up to the parents and defending their wife.

As a wife, it's one thing leaving the man or refusing to see the abusive parents yourself (and I have done this with my abusive in-laws previously). It's quite another to forbid the man from seeing his own parents even without you there. That is controlling.

It wasn't even about the impact on the OP as what she was upset about was the fact that her DH was seeing the parents again, like it was some kind of land grab.

Personally, I don't think it matters how abusive the parents were in this situation- the OP's control should extend to her own life and protecting herself, but telling another adult who they can and can't talk to when she's not even there is not reasonable behaviour - my concern with normalising this is the fact that lots of controlling abusers (mainly men) sell this as a reasonable position to take and gaslight women into believing it.

DBML · 01/11/2019 16:19

and for 30 years 😖

BlueEyedBengal · 01/11/2019 16:21

Don't think we will see any response from op as not many agree with her point of view. I would if I was her be worried about hubby going to the police, as his his rights and putting a complaint in.

Belfield · 01/11/2019 16:32

I would move on with my life OP and if you are blocking access to his Sons (I know they are adults but you are so controlling I imagine they are more like children) then I would stop doing that. There is a law against coercive control and so you risk being charged. Given your lack of any understanding of your behaviour, you would be completely goosed if charged because you would just be admitting it.

annienone · 01/11/2019 16:39

How would you ever try justify telling your husband not to have a relationship with his parents or sister. That's actually unbelievable. No wonder he left.

MiddleClassProblem · 01/11/2019 16:42

This has to be a reverse, right?

Like how the hell do I get to see my kids (who I assume are at least teens if not 20s? Do I have to keep my manipulative, emotionally abusive ex sweet?

Sodisillusionedrn · 01/11/2019 16:42

To much truth for op to return I suspect.

Fookadook · 01/11/2019 16:44

As someone whose DH has cancer, WTAF bullshit are you parading here?

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