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I feel like my marriage is falling apart

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Sayhellotothethings · 26/08/2019 04:46

It is breaking me to post about this but I need to speak to people who are impartial and don't know what else to do. I feel so alone.

DH and I have been together for 10 years with a very happy relationship, married for 3 of them.
Since we have had a baby, things have changed. I feel like my husband isn't there sometimes and I'm talking to someone else that is emotionally distant. Our baby is 3 months old so early days, I know.

Background - our baby was very much wanted. I was diagnosed with an illness that would likely effect my ability to have children over time, so we decided to ttc a couple of years earlier than planned. A joint decision. One MC and a year later, I fell pregnant with our LO. He was happy about it.

Fast forward to me at about 8 months pregnant and he revealed he had been anxious about completely losing our relationship, and some freedom. I asked what he meant and he said the ability to go to the gym after work, or go on date nights. We talked through everything and he told me he felt better.

We are now where we are. I thought things were fine. He is a great dad, he loves our baby and does his share. But he told me that he feels 'dead behind the eyes' when I ask how he is feeling now, he loves us all individually but put together he isn't happy. I say us because there is a dog included in this, that he is now saying I pressurised him in to getting (although we applied to adopt him together...apparently him putting in place specific requirements for a type of rescue dog was his way of trying to stop it happening, instead of sticking with 'no').

I have asked him what it is that he isn't happy with, and he says he doesn't know. He doesn't know what he wants to change. He misses our life pre-baby but says he wouldn't change having one and loves her.

I do a lot to support his feelings and he acknowledges I can't do much more - he goes to the gym to wind down several times a week after work, I do 80% of night feeds, he has been out with friends. We have been on a date night and have the option of going on another soon if we want.
He said he was finding the hassle of walking the dog so much a problem because it meant he wasn't getting a lot of down time after work (health issues when pg meant I couldn't and I have only recently recovered from child birth). I took this on board and now do more of it.

He mentioned wanting to go on holiday together spontaneously (which we have never done) so I suggested I book something for us, then he says no because of money. We can afford to go, though. Now he is saying we should book something again.

He says that he has spent our time together trying to make me happy because that is all he wants, and maybe the decisions he has made haven't been right for him, as in an ideal world we wouldn't have a dog or have had a child just yet. In every big step of our life e.g. having a child, I kept making sure doors for conversation were open and made sure it was something we both wanted before even coming off birth control.

The latest is that he said he was going to spend a night away in a hotel to clear his head. I asked what he intended to do there and he said swim, have dinner, chill out. This reads to me as run away from his family and test the waters of being alone. He says this isn't the case as if he wanted to leave he would have just packed his bags.
He felt strongly that he needed to do this so I ended up packing bags for me, the dog, the baby, and have stayed with a family member overnight (if he wants his alone time I'm not sitting back and feeling like crap on his terms, on my own whilst he has a swim...). I asked him what he wanted to get out of doing that, he said he was hoping for a bad nights sleep and to make sense of his thoughts.

I have suggested couples therapy which he is open to. He thinks he would benefit from counselling on his own, but unfortunately this having a night away thing has dented things for me and I think we need to look at reconnecting together.
We had already been through this and he told me things were ok, so I feel like I can't trust that if he says it again.

He went to the GP regarding depression which they did not think he had, and said he was just struggling with the lifestyle change of having a baby.

I'm not sure what else to do. I love him dearly and we have the most amazing life. He even agrees, we have everything. But he is unhappy with it and can't put his finger on why. I feel like my marriage is crumbling and I am losing my best friend.

And no, he isn't having an affair. I've already had the discussion.

OP posts:
CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 29/08/2019 08:43

Sayhellotothethings

I do sincerely hope things work and that you are right regarding the PND. I have heard men say they feel disconnected and even struggle to have any feelings for their new sons or daughters after they are born. One man told he felt nothing for his child until he reached 2 years old, and he felt great pressure to pretend to his wife that he was as enamoured and happy as she was about being a parent. In no way could he tell her how he felt without devastating her. You can imagine the pressure that put him under. I've heard it many times, and this may be all that is happening here. You are completely right that a female poster could say a lot worse and would receive support and told she has PND.

However, please just keep a little tiny space open in the back of your mind for the possibility of it being deeper than this.

Because what I have also seen many times is a man in a relationship dropping hints that he feels he has been pressured into decisions, that he has 'ended up' living the life his wife want's, that he hasn't had enough freedom, that where once he was mentally 'choosing' to be with his wife he now feels the choice has gone and a baby means he has to no choice but to stay, that he feels emasculated in his own home. That he's no longer the focus of attention. These are little hints that develop and are ignored but then years later get dropped all at once in the poor unsuspecting wife's lap as he walks out the door to the 'freedom' that now on his mind 'his wife' has prevented him living (takes no responsibility for his choices at all).

Just keep back a bit of headspace and be very attentive to things he says. I hope you work through it all, best of luck.

prawnsword · 29/08/2019 09:06

OP I think what needs addressing is:

  1. Does now acknowledge he DID act actively agree to having a baby & getting the dog ? It is OK for him to in hindsight realise he was not ready. What is not OK is to start revising history saying he didn't agree to them & you pushed him into them. He will never move past this if he does not 100% accept these were HIS CHOICES. That way, when having a tough day you can joke "OMG what were we thinking with this parenting gig??!" & be lighthearted about it.

  2. How much active parenting does he actually do? You now say you rarely take breaks. So he is around enjoying the best bits of having a baby which is nice... but you are, by your own description doing most of the actual work.

  3. What medication & treatment has the GP prescribed ? He wouldn't be going through PND unmedicated surely ? I am bias but don't believe true depression is solved quickly via talk therapy alone. If he refuses to take medication I would be suspicious he is not suffering a profound depression.

ravenmum · 29/08/2019 11:32

Good to hear you've got some steps planned OP.

In your position it might be a good idea to look into further support for yourself, as the partner of someone with depression.

At the same time, even if this is "just" depression, don't dismiss the comments about co-dependence entirely. "I don't know how to be happy without him" is a really precarious position for you to be in. You need to build up more support, and more strength - you can't rely only on the hope that you will stay together and he will die after you.

If he refuses to take medication I would be suspicious he is not suffering a profound depression.
I didn't see any indication that he wasn't on medication, but in any case depression goes hand in hand with feelings of guilt and not being good enough; being too weak, for example. It's pretty common for people not to want to "take the last resort" of medication as they think it's a sign of weakness, or of them being "mad" or other such nonsense. That feeling is exacerbated by depression.
Where I live, you normally get diagnosed with mild, moderate or severe depression. You might be prescribed medication at any of those stages, depending on your symptoms. But even if it is mild depression you are suffering from, that can have a massive impact on your relationship in particular. It doesn't mean that it's not that bad and you should just try harder.

prawnsword · 29/08/2019 11:53

He is either profoundly depressed & needs medication, or he is mildy depressed & dropping the ball. Which is it? (Also have bipolar depression so am familiar with how it works)

ravenmum · 29/08/2019 12:10

Or he is mildly depressed and needs medication? Or mildly depressed and struggling? Or moderately depressed and about to go ON medication? I had situative depression and and familiar with how that works.

prawnsword · 29/08/2019 12:50

Apologies @ravenmum did not mean to assume you don't know about depression. Just assumed that medication would have been discussed in a GP visit. Not that I think GPs should prescribe them, I think it's better to be under the care of a psychiatrist for them when possible.

Perhaps this is what he meant by his comment about giving this a go for 6 months & then trying something else if "this" doesn't work. Does "this" include medication or is it something he would consider in 6 months time if talk therapy doesn't work ?

billy1966 · 29/08/2019 13:07

OP, you sound more upbeat and that's great if that's how you really.

Wishing you the very best and a positive outcome.

Lemonsqueasy · 29/08/2019 13:20

Really feel for you OP. Just because he seems to be a different person and is acting selfish, it doesn't mean he's changed permanently. My DP had a wobble for about 6 weeks in a similar situation (not baby but big lifestyle change) and is now back to normal. Really difficult time but there is hope Thanks

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