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I feel like my marriage is falling apart

133 replies

Sayhellotothethings · 26/08/2019 04:46

It is breaking me to post about this but I need to speak to people who are impartial and don't know what else to do. I feel so alone.

DH and I have been together for 10 years with a very happy relationship, married for 3 of them.
Since we have had a baby, things have changed. I feel like my husband isn't there sometimes and I'm talking to someone else that is emotionally distant. Our baby is 3 months old so early days, I know.

Background - our baby was very much wanted. I was diagnosed with an illness that would likely effect my ability to have children over time, so we decided to ttc a couple of years earlier than planned. A joint decision. One MC and a year later, I fell pregnant with our LO. He was happy about it.

Fast forward to me at about 8 months pregnant and he revealed he had been anxious about completely losing our relationship, and some freedom. I asked what he meant and he said the ability to go to the gym after work, or go on date nights. We talked through everything and he told me he felt better.

We are now where we are. I thought things were fine. He is a great dad, he loves our baby and does his share. But he told me that he feels 'dead behind the eyes' when I ask how he is feeling now, he loves us all individually but put together he isn't happy. I say us because there is a dog included in this, that he is now saying I pressurised him in to getting (although we applied to adopt him together...apparently him putting in place specific requirements for a type of rescue dog was his way of trying to stop it happening, instead of sticking with 'no').

I have asked him what it is that he isn't happy with, and he says he doesn't know. He doesn't know what he wants to change. He misses our life pre-baby but says he wouldn't change having one and loves her.

I do a lot to support his feelings and he acknowledges I can't do much more - he goes to the gym to wind down several times a week after work, I do 80% of night feeds, he has been out with friends. We have been on a date night and have the option of going on another soon if we want.
He said he was finding the hassle of walking the dog so much a problem because it meant he wasn't getting a lot of down time after work (health issues when pg meant I couldn't and I have only recently recovered from child birth). I took this on board and now do more of it.

He mentioned wanting to go on holiday together spontaneously (which we have never done) so I suggested I book something for us, then he says no because of money. We can afford to go, though. Now he is saying we should book something again.

He says that he has spent our time together trying to make me happy because that is all he wants, and maybe the decisions he has made haven't been right for him, as in an ideal world we wouldn't have a dog or have had a child just yet. In every big step of our life e.g. having a child, I kept making sure doors for conversation were open and made sure it was something we both wanted before even coming off birth control.

The latest is that he said he was going to spend a night away in a hotel to clear his head. I asked what he intended to do there and he said swim, have dinner, chill out. This reads to me as run away from his family and test the waters of being alone. He says this isn't the case as if he wanted to leave he would have just packed his bags.
He felt strongly that he needed to do this so I ended up packing bags for me, the dog, the baby, and have stayed with a family member overnight (if he wants his alone time I'm not sitting back and feeling like crap on his terms, on my own whilst he has a swim...). I asked him what he wanted to get out of doing that, he said he was hoping for a bad nights sleep and to make sense of his thoughts.

I have suggested couples therapy which he is open to. He thinks he would benefit from counselling on his own, but unfortunately this having a night away thing has dented things for me and I think we need to look at reconnecting together.
We had already been through this and he told me things were ok, so I feel like I can't trust that if he says it again.

He went to the GP regarding depression which they did not think he had, and said he was just struggling with the lifestyle change of having a baby.

I'm not sure what else to do. I love him dearly and we have the most amazing life. He even agrees, we have everything. But he is unhappy with it and can't put his finger on why. I feel like my marriage is crumbling and I am losing my best friend.

And no, he isn't having an affair. I've already had the discussion.

OP posts:
Sayhellotothethings · 26/08/2019 17:57

What can he do differently (other than not propose hotel stays!). He does his share of helping with the baby, he does encourage me to have me time, even though I fail at it. But he will take care of her whilst I bath for an hour even if I am not doing anything substantial. Yes ok he goes to the gym a fair bit...but he would support me in attending a hobby if I had one.

Genuine question, not trying to argue with posters. I appreciate the support on here.

OP posts:
Gobbolinothewitchscat · 26/08/2019 18:11

Rather than us all surmising about depression in a completely uninformed way (given it can only be diagnosed by a trained HCP who has taken a medical hisory etc), the best thing to do is to book him in with a private psychiatrist (not hard to book online) and ask for a diagnosis. Then that can be excluded or not. However, even if he has depression, he will be expected to take responsability for his treatment/recovery and not in a way that is at the total detriment of his wife (ie it's not a free pass for non-stop gym sessions and navel gazing hotel stays)

UserXx123 · 26/08/2019 23:04

Same thing happened with me. Men can have post natal depression to and they deal with things differently to women. Counselling will be the answer x

Holymoly0 · 26/08/2019 23:15

Sounds to me like he has a bit of post natal depression, men can suffer too. Having a baby is a massive change, but one thing you have on your side is that he still helps you with the baby and is willing to openly discuss how he’s feeling which is good. I would go to counselling together, if he’s willing to go for it. You seem to love each other very much so you definitely have something to work for. Good luck x

Zaphodsotherhead · 27/08/2019 09:56

I started out reading this thread thinking that he was a typical 'trying to sidle out of a relationship' guy, but I've actually now come round more to thinking that he's depressed.

Maybe not so depressed that a GP will medicate it, but maybe he's feeling that life has let him down somewhat. The emotionlessness and the not knowing what he wants is flagging up to me that he's caught in some point - he's afraid of fatherhood and not relating to his child (which will get better as she gets older) and yet life as a single man doesn't appeal either - so what does that leave him?

Work and gym, pretty much. Which isn't much of a life either.

I'd stop bending over backwards to accommodate him, OP. Let him know that you think things will improve as your DD gets older and more communicative, but he's not the only one that's had a complete life change, and you don't have the option of leaving it all and running away, so neither should he. He might just need to grow up quickly. So, sympathy for the depression and life confusion and all, but also a bit of sock-and-big-boy-pants pulling up!

Sayhellotothethings · 27/08/2019 10:10

Thanks @Zaphodsotherhead. We chatted last night (well, all day) and I was quite honest in saying that he wasn't the only one with changes to adjust to and I've been much more accommodating with is feelings than many would, letting him have plenty of down time, in some cases at the expense of my own sanity. I was also honest and told him he has fractured our relationship a bit with this, especially the night away from us. I also reminded him that this stage, the baby stage, is the hardest part as they are so dependent.
I have called a counsellor today and hopefully they call back soon so we can get the ball rolling. Meanwhile I have to live with this knot in my stomach, for god knows how long!

He did say that he has no intentions of going anywhere and if he still feels this way in 6 months then we will try something else. I wonder if time will be a healer itself.

OP posts:
Sayhellotothethings · 27/08/2019 10:13

This morning our baby was smiling at him from her crib and he said 'look how amazing this is, why wouldn't I want this life'. So I wonder if he feels his responsibilities (work, wife, mortgage, house, dog, baby) are pulling him in too many directions and he is under pressure.

Now that I am physically able I can do my bit with the dog, whether it is with the pram during the day or an hour in the evening while DH looks after LO. He had been doing all of it through pregnancy due to SPD and then I took longer to recover from labour than expected so wasn't up to it. So he was doing all of the dog stuff morning and night for nearly a year.

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lavenderandthyme · 27/08/2019 10:18

You know what? I think the two of you are going to be absolutely fine.

Sayhellotothethings · 27/08/2019 10:20

@Sayhellotothethings
I desperately I hope so. I'm sure I've annoyed lots of pps on here but he really is my rock and has helped me through so much including thinking I was infertile. I can't lose him because it would honestly leave me broken. He is my best friend.

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Echobelly · 27/08/2019 10:23

Um, has he considered how your life has changed? That right now you probably can't do any of the things he takes for granted, and will still not be able to do a lot of them in the future unless he compromises? I think counselling is a good idea as it sounds like the love is there but he needs to find ways of accepting this new stage of life and relationship.

sheshootssheimplores · 27/08/2019 10:28

My first instinct after reading your post is How are you OP? Does he ever ask that? It sounds like you’re living with a selfish Manchild to me and your best bet is to let him go and stop pandering to him.

HasThisSoddingNameGoneToo · 27/08/2019 10:42

Please use this as a bit of a wake-up call to widen your own life a little more. He’s your best friend, you don’t know how to be happy without him — both are warning bells to me. Of course you should love your DH but you absolutely 100% should believe you could be happy without them too. And you should have other, very close, friendships.

If you lost him, you’d lose yourself completely. I’d be terrified. I’m terrified for you! There’s closeness and then there’s codependency. I think you’re very close to the latter.

ravenmum · 27/08/2019 10:47

Go to another doctor or a specialist (if poss) for a second opinion about the depression. "Dead behind the eyes" is a big red flag for depression. Did he describe how he was feeling honestly the first time, or did he underplay how he was feeling so as not to sound dramatic or attention-seeking?

hellsbellsmelons · 27/08/2019 10:53

He wants you to live like this and put up with his crappy childish behaviour for 6 months!!!???
Fuck that OP.
You will go insane.
He has lost the focus of your attention.
He is throwing a tantrum.
He has had all the freedom he needed because you've allowed it.
Time for you now OP.
Really think about your future here.
You cannot live like this.
It's not fair on you and baby - not at all.
It really is all about HIM isn't it!?
What about you?
Has he even asked you how you are coping with his moodiness?
Has he asked how you are doing, only 3 months after giving birth?
Has he asked how you are coping?
You should NOT be mothering 2 babies.
You have enough to deal with.
I would honestly fuck off to family for some love and support.
You need your own space right now.
He is making this 'magical' time absolutely miserable for everyone.
Let him throw his toys out but YOU need support now.
HE needs to help support YOU!

CloudyWithAChance2 · 27/08/2019 11:10

Pathetic behaviour from him.

Having read all of your posts, my guess would be there is someone else involved.
I don’t agree with depression as he’s still going to the gym etc. I know people who suffer with depression and even getting out of bed is a struggle.
Yes it could be mild but I don’t see it.

Most guys would just knuckle down even if they weren’t overly happy with the lifestyle changes etc. Something else has his attention. Him staying at a hotel is a huge red flag.

Eustasiavye · 27/08/2019 11:11

I agree 100% with ptawsword post at 07.47.

He is lying about something.
He claims he didn't want a dog although agreed with it wholeheartedly at t he time. You suggest the dog goes, he refuses.
He doesn't want to loose you, most adults dont.
However he is setting out he scene for it being all your fault.
Your fault you became parents.
Your fault you got a dog.
Your fault he has no freedom.
I really hope this works out for you but I suspect he is wondering about a life without you.
He is following the script, I've seen it time and time again.
Take care of yourself op.

Eustasiavye · 27/08/2019 11:13

Prawnsword.

hellsbellsmelons · 27/08/2019 11:29

Oysterbabe I have really explicitly asked him if there is somebody else and he has said no, I do believe him
Has he sworn on your DD life!????

prawnsword · 27/08/2019 11:34

@hellsbellsmelons I have personally had a cheater swear on someone's grave they didn't...can't remember which relation it was now though.

hellsbellsmelons · 27/08/2019 11:39

Yep - I had the same with my ExH.
Swore on his DD life.
And of course he was having an affair.
Just be on alert just in case.
Something else is going on with him.

hlr1987 · 27/08/2019 12:08

Rather than depressed, I would assume he's grieving for his old life and struggling to adjust (complete with the rose tinted glasses for how it used to be!). On the one hand, it's completely normal and he just has to work through it. On the other, it's a pain in the backside for you, because women don't usually get the time to mentally adjust, they just have to get on with it. Does he have a close relationship with any other dad's for him to have the social framework to know that not every moment of parenthood is pure fulfillment?
Women know this from talking to each other, but I'm going to assume he doesn't have a close relationship with anyone who would have discussed that actually you just feel empty and on autopilot a lot of the time, with moments of happiness. This guilt of not being as happy as expected might be making him question himself, rather than seeing it as a normal stage/ reaction.
You love him, all I can suggest is being patient. He needs to recognise that things have changed and come to accept that it isn't all negative, or all positive. Maybe it would help if he approached it like an actual loss to come to terms with however trite that is! www.learnpsychology.org/now/grief/

Feckers2018 · 27/08/2019 12:35

TBH I would't believe a word he says. I think he is cheating and was rewriting history and then after the hotel stay he wants things back to normal because of guilt and wants to carry on cake eating/ cheating. He will have been up to no good in that hotel.

Feckers2018 · 27/08/2019 12:38

You cannot ask a cheater if there is someone else. Hes not going to own up is he? You are being naive.

UserXx123 · 27/08/2019 12:54

Think people are being harsh assuming he’s cheating.

He has post natal depression, if this was the other way round you wouldn’t be accusing the woman of cheating?

EmrysAtticus · 27/08/2019 13:01

I think he needs a second opinion on PND. You say that this is nothing like him and it has only come on with the baby.

I have huge sympathy with the regret after a baby is born as both DH suffered with this and PND and it almost broke us. However I don't have sympathy with shirking his responsibilities because of it. Even in the depths of our PND both DH and I knew that it was our joint responsibility to care for DS and we tackled it as a team. DS is now 3.5 and we both adore the socks off of him and love being his parents and we are still very much a team. You need to lay the foundations of that now.

The hotel thing isn't suspicious to me either. I know several new parents who booked an occasional night in a hotel to get a decent night's sleep etc. I did it myself! But it needs to be fair.