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Husband is thinking of leaving me with 2 small children. So distraught and scared.

108 replies

Tasmum1 · 22/07/2019 22:22

Ok bare with me. I’ve never posted on here before and can’t believe I’m writing this.
I’m from Australia and moved over here about 11 years ago, left to go back to Australia 2 years later and meet my now husband travelling on the way home. He’s British. We fell madly in love ended up getting married 6 months later and I moved back over here.
He’s honestly such a lovely man from a lovely family and has treated me so well I’ve always felt like I’d won the lottery.
We’ve always discussed going back to aus at some stage especially after kids and he’s always said he will give it a go out there.
Anyway 9 years of happy marriage we were definitely a ‘party’ couple for many years and had a very busy social life most of our friends are younger than us. And are only just starting to have families.
Anyways we now have 2 beautiful ivf babies (ivf worked first time both times - so didn’t really put much of a strain on our marriage).
After our daughter was born 2.5 years ago my husband was the best father. I was jealous watching him all my friends were also jealous he was perfect. We decided to have another baby last year he is now 4 months old.
We’ve always had a great marriage been best of friends but I guess having kids has put a huge strain on things especially as I don’t have family around. Financially too as we live in a small flat (which was always temporary and never meant for us with 2 kids).
It was decided we would move to aus after we had baby husband has been trying to get a transfer with work.
So 6 months ago life was great I was heavily pregnant and was thinking about moving back home.
Anyway about 8 months into pregnancy I could see a change in my husband. He started becoming withdrawn, not sleeping well, not interested in family life or getting enjoyment out of it, not really listening to me when I spoke or excited about the baby. I kept asking him what was wrong, whether it was me he kept saying ‘he didn’t know he’d sort it.
(During my pregnancy a lot went on in terms of him working really hard to get a promotion and me really struggling)
He started a new and stressful role at work a month before baby comes. Baby comes and he found paternity leave very stressful especially with our toddler, he was in tears a lot saying he didn’t feel happy he knew he should he didn’t know why. I was very worried about depression he kept saying he didn’t think it was that and he’d sort it.
Since then it’s spiralled our of control. He has continued to pull away from me and completely emotionally shut down. He’s told me he can never move to aus and feels so guilty as the relationship is one sided, hes irritable with the kids, very impatient with everything jobs around the house, driving etc. Has started to drink more.
I kept asking whether it was our marriage that was making him so unhappy and kept expressing how unloved and how unsupported I felt but nothing seemed to help. He agreed to see a therapist.
Anyway then he tells me it is our marriage making him unhappy but we could fix it.
As he couldn’t move to aus I was looking into other areas we could afford a house - close to his work. He wouldn’t engage. Kept saying he doesnt know what he wants which started to scare me. . He completely shut me out. I kept trying to fix things for him and do nice things for him this didn’t help. Eventually one night he told me he would be going to stay with a friend he needed space.
We meet up a few nights later and he told me he wanted to leave me.
My whole world ended. Was the worst moment of my life. I’m on mat leave I earn soooo much less than him and we are struggling as it is. His family are my only family and we have all the same friends.
After seeing how upset I was and knowing how hard it is with 2 small kids he agreed to move back in (most of the week - staying at a mates some night to have space) and go to relate counselling.
He is still affectionate to me and we still have sex. He says he does love me but he hasn’t been happy for a while (about a year - which is when I got pregnant). He says he feels numb and empty and he has lost himself.says he can’t give me what I want. Says he doesn’t get to do any of things he enjoys anymore and he doesn’t know how to be happy. Keeps reassuring me if the worst happens he won’t screw me and the kids over financially. He thinks it means he love me less as he can’t move to aus and he’s struggling to put mine and the kids happiness before his own and feels very guilty about it. He says he’s sick of the same old fights (which only generally occur when he wants to go out and do loads of stuff and leave me at home - this is especially hard as he’s often away with work so I’m often flying solo as it is.
I’m terrified. I’d thought about what I’d do if he died but never ever imagined this. It seems so out of character that he would do this to me when I have just had a baby I’m still breastfeeding. I’ve got so much to lose I don’t know how I’d ever cope. I’d be stuck in England and not have any money for trips home etc as a single mum. I’d lose all his family who I’m so close to.
I feel like I’m walking on egg shells living like a doormat too scared to push him away for good. I can’t see a future without him I love him so much and can’t believe it’s come to this out of the blue (for me). I’m angry he shut me out.
I’m trying so hard to be strong and give him space but I feel abandon.
He has all the power and it’s awful. He’s promised he will go to the doctor to see about depression as he has many symptoms. I feel like it’s all my fault for nagging and being controlling. He is a good man so I’m busy looking for excuses for his behaviour and feel desperate and a bit pathetic trying to get him to show me some
Love back. He wants to keep all our plans together as normal and says he can’t even think about us being with other people or not spending time together. When I talk about practicalities of separation he says ‘stop it’s too sad’ Or ‘it hasn’t happened yet’ I don’t think he really has a plan.
I’m all over the place and not able to enjoy being with the children. I’ve had a few meltdowns telling him he is going to ruin my life and begged him not to leave. He’s always comforted me and says he feels awful.
It’s so hard being with him but not feeling loved back.
I don’t know what to do.
If you’re still with me well done!! Not sure why I’m posting. Just seeing if anyone has been through anything similar. Is he having some sort of crisis that he needs some time to sort out? Or is he only still here because he feels guilty?
I can’t believe he could leave me with these 2 small children. I trusted him.
There is def no one else. I’m sure of that.

OP posts:
endofthelinefinally · 22/07/2019 22:27

I am sorry, but I think he is having an affair.
Who is the mate he is staying with?
I am so, so sorry this is happening to you.

TeaForDad · 22/07/2019 22:28

No advice but read it all. Sounds like he's become very self centred, inward looking and needs to get some help

NoSquirrels · 22/07/2019 22:32

Flowers I’m so sorry, OP.

I’m afraid my first thought on reading this is “affair” - he’s cheated (whether it’s ongoing or over now who knows), and he’s guilty.

He has all the power and it’s awful.

No. You have power too. You can stop dancing to his tune, ask him to stay away until he knows what he wants, arrange a contact schedule for the children and stop having sex with him. For your own sake you need to detach a bit now.

Stop begging him. He’s throwing you crumbs. You deserve better.

Flowers
dontdoubtyourself · 22/07/2019 22:32

Yeah, I'd bet on an affair.
Don't let him call all the shots, take control of the situation.

Julykthat · 22/07/2019 22:35

During my second pregnancy (after years of fertility treatment) my dh became withdrawn and disinterested. He didn't come to any scans or even the birth. He wasn't particularly interested in the baby. He had depression, brought on by serious financial worries. He had counselling and eventually went on anti depressants but it took a year if not more for him to recover and longer for our relationship to recover. In fact he went through a similar period (also saying his life had changed beyond recognition) after our first child was born. We did recover as we both ultimately wanted our marriage to survive which helped.

If you are sure there isn't someone else, then would depression be a possibility?

NoSquirrels · 22/07/2019 22:36

There is def no one else. I’m sure of that.

How is it that you’re sure? Because he is a lovely bloke/a good man/would never cheat.

People do, I’m afraid. And go to extraordinary lengths to cover it up.

I really hope you’re right, because it’s an awful thought. But regardless, he’s treating you terribly. It’s not what someone who is ‘lovely’ should do to someone they love.

sheshootssheimplores · 22/07/2019 22:36

Can you go home to Australia with the children? I’d sure as hell be looking into that, that’s for sure.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 22/07/2019 22:38

Have a think op about what YOU want. He's not the man you married, and stop thinking he will change it that you can change him. This is HIM .

Crystal049 · 22/07/2019 22:41

He’s not having an affair (obvs no one really knows that) but I doubt it, sounds like the kids has just been so overwhelming and taken every bit of spontaneity out of life! My DH is going through this at the moment, he has been for 10 months. I asked him to leave 4 weeks ago as he was enforcing a kind of limbo and I couldn’t stand it. Love him to bits but it’s definitely improved things, it makes it real for them, what it would be like without a family etc. I would actually get away to AUS get him to pay for you and the kids to go it will also make him realise a few things whilst you get a well deserved break x

FirstTim3Mummy · 22/07/2019 22:47

It sounds similar to my situation with my DH (no children) but me being like your DH.

I went to therapy (already on antidepressants) and started to get back to my normal self. It took a long time, a few years of ups mainly downs and behaviour very similar to your DH.

Now pregnant and whether it's hormones and therapy I've stopped pushing DH away and am a lot less irritable and self centred although I still do have bad days

Depression is tough both for the one who has it and their family. I really am a selfish self centred person when I get bad and all I can hink of is I want to leave my husband and disconnect

I really hope he gets some help from Dr and therapy

Hugs X

PS sorry don't know about affairs so can't. Comment on that aspect x

Constance1234 · 22/07/2019 22:53

If the worst comes to the worst could you move back to Aus with the children?

EskiVodkaCranberry · 22/07/2019 23:00

I agree, he can have his space while you and the dc go to aus, if you've got support and friends out there. Hes making you suffer for things which aren't your fault.

ohtheholidays · 22/07/2019 23:05

First of no matter how difficult you find it you need to stop sleeping with him,no cuddles,no kissing or holding hands and tell your family and friends back in Australia what has happened so that you can start getting the support that you deserve and need!

Please stop blaming yourself this is all on him,I can't tell you weather there is someone else or not but either way the way he is treating you and your DC(because he is treating them badly by messing they're Mother about)is unforgivable!

Honestly if the plan was to move back to Australia then I'd start reaching out to your family and friends back there and I'd start saving any money up that you can!

McHorace · 22/07/2019 23:10

Tasmum
If it all comes to an end you will survive just as I did when mine left me with a 3-year-old and a 14-month-old. I had no family support and was unwell with an undiagnosed illness. I don't know how I did it, good friends, anti-depressants and an understanding GP I guess and that the children needed me so I had little choice I had to get up and see to them. Please don't let being scared make you be unable to set and keep boundaries around this man, he will continue to trample you unless you set some boundaries around what is acceptable behaviour and what - is not to you and your little family. You are vulnerable but that does mean you are not strong and able to cope work out these boundaries and stick to them. Do not compromise yourself into non-existence to keep him.

Hanab · 22/07/2019 23:12

He has had his head turned 🤷🏻‍♀️

Mary1935 · 22/07/2019 23:14

I think affair - his heads been turned but the problem is he wracked with guilt. I would start investigating - check his phone - phone bills etc.
I feel for you. Have to told family or friends, you need to stop sleeping with him. You need to protect your emotions.

Bignicetree · 22/07/2019 23:16

He sounds depressed.
Get him to the GP ASAP
Good luck x

SillyBillyBandy · 22/07/2019 23:18

I've seen this before with a second child. First child the dh gets to carry on enjoying life and nights out as dw picks up all the slack. Dc2 and dh has to start pulling his weight and it's all too much

I'd think what my best options were locally and at home and I'd get some maintenance sorted while he's feeling guilty

Thanks for you x

BumWad · 22/07/2019 23:24

My DH has been the same since pregnant with DD2. She is is 6 months old now and we’re trying.

Hang in there.

Tavannach · 22/07/2019 23:38

(During my pregnancy a lot went on in terms of him working really hard to get a promotion and me really struggling)

Don't skate over this bit. I think the problem's in there somewhere.

minipie · 22/07/2019 23:49

I've seen this before with a second child. First child the dh gets to carry on enjoying life and nights out as dw picks up all the slack. Dc2 and dh has to start pulling his weight and it's all too much

Agree

he was in tears a lot saying he didn’t feel happy he knew he should he didn’t know why.

Does he know it’s ok not to feel happy? Having a toddler and a newborn is a really shit phase of life for a lot of couples and you basically just have to live through it. It’s ok to say I’m not enjoying this stage but let’s hang in there and get through it together.
I wonder if his problem is he’s expecting life to be constantly fun and amazing and the reality with kids is it’s a grind sometimes (but it gets easier).

tolerable · 22/07/2019 23:58

fuck him. honestly. bin him-but be aware if it doesnt "jolt"the doctors/diagnosis/correction you are willing to accept as" reasoning"there is none any worse than what the other side holds.love yourself,your kids and your lives enough to want more.accept no less.obv thats easy for me to say cos am outside.good luck.defo bin him tho.

Herocomplex · 23/07/2019 00:04

You have my sympathy, but my first thought is that he’s really got you where he wants you hasn’t he? You’re hanging on his every word and decision.
Marriage is a partnership and you need to think about what you want. He’s possibly depressed, he should find out for sure.
But checking out of your family to go and stay with a friend, leaving your wife with two small children is shameful.

UniversalAunt · 23/07/2019 00:04

‘ He says he does love me but he hasn’t been happy for a while (about a year - which is when I got pregnant). He says he feels numb and empty and he has lost himself.says he can’t give me what I want.’

Numb, numb, numb & empty - depression.
‘He feels lost & cannot give me what I want’- again, depression.

I have been counting up the life events between you & I am running out of fingers... I jest but in part.

Getting along the fertility path to decide IVF - stressful
Two rounds of IVF - stressful
Worked first time both times - stressful
Money for IVF ? - stressful
Two full pregnancies in two years - stress
Two babies under three years - stress
Not enough sleep- stress
Crowded flat - um....
Competition & uncertainty at work - stress
New job - stress
Becoming a father - stress
Feeling overwhelmed...
Trying to sort it out on your own because you are smart nice guy who doesn’t bother people .
Weight of the world on your shoulders...
Straw that breaks camel’s back...

This is serious.

Serious as in you go with him to GP tomorrow morning & see the duty doctor.

No argument, no debate - you are pulling the joker out of the pack & he goes to the GP first thing. In the queue on the surgery doorstop a good half hour before surgery opens.

FrownPrincess · 23/07/2019 00:06

I think it sounds as though your DH is struggling with the feeling of being trapped in his role as father of two and main breadwinner. You enjoyed an active social life for many years; now your lives have changed completely since the children came along, and the novelty of being a dad has worn off to be replaced by a fear of the lack of freedom and weight of responsibility that comes with parenthood.

Is your DH rather immature? The fact that your friends are younger and you led a party lifestyle for so long suggests that he was perhaps not ready for family life. It sounds as though he needs counselling or even to see a GP for possible depression.

As you get on so well with his family, what is their take on the changes in him?