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Samsung Secure Folder

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stupidorparanoid · 28/05/2019 14:20

Hello MN I need some advice.
I was going through my husband phone, looking at pictures on his gallery (with his permission). Then I pressed the recent app, something came up as secure folder, I couldn't get into it as it needed a pin to go in. I asked him about it and denied installing it and said that it came with the Samsung phone. I insisted and then he tried a few pins which he says he uses and said it was not working. He later said to me that he managed to unlock it and gave me access t o eh secure folder. I didn't even bother looking as I am thinking, if there was anything incriminating, then he would have deleted it before giving me the phone.
Should I be worried? does anyone know anything about secure folders?
Thanks

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 10:39

@shakeitoff - 1 DC. I think it is may be more of an emotional affair. And the fact that it is a work colleague means they do spend time together at work, may be lots of time so then there is no need to meet outside work or week end. TBH, I am the one that plans our social life, movies, restaurants going out with mutual friends etc but he is always willing. Thinking back I don't think he ever does the planning etc, its always me.
I think it may have started as a innocent flirting and then developed into more...but that's just my opinion, am torturing myself thinking how it started, how long for etc.
How is your H?

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Suebnm · 29/05/2019 11:58

I work for a website that married men use to hook up with women who generally are not married. They mainly use WhatsApp, mainly followed by KIK and we are increasingly seeing GoogleHangouts being mentioned. We find there are many ways to hide conversations.

KIK is just a username with no mobile and is very anonymous.

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 12:12

@suebnm am assuming they both need to have kik? I don't think I have seen that app. Didn't even know what it was. He may well have it hidden somewhere but ill never know!

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Suebnm · 29/05/2019 12:49

Yes they both need to have KIK. It may well be something else.

Kedgeree · 29/05/2019 12:56

It's recently come out that BiL is a long term user of prostitutes and sugar babies etc. He had many and varied ways of contacting them, including What'sApp, burner phone, false FB profile etc. Ironically it was the tech that caught him out in the end. He even said to DH "I blame Apple for this" when struggling to understand why he's on the receiving end of a divorce Hmm. If you're not really tech-savvy then it can bite you in the bum.

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 13:00

@Kedgeree think my H is very tech savvy. I was extremely lucky that I landed onto that recent app gallery that lead to the secure folder. Otherwise I would have been none the wiser, enjoying my fake marital bliss!

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shakeitofff · 29/05/2019 13:06

@stupidorparanoid

So is the ow aware he's married? I can't understand why women aren't turned off by that fact 🙄

My dp has been ok recently but I'm suspicious as sometimes I can see him
And ow online the same time whilst at work
When I check his phone though there's nothing there... they've obviously steps ahead and delete everything

Just exhausting having to find out concrete proof when there's so many available avenues to live a double life

desparate4sleep · 29/05/2019 13:16

Sorry you are going through this. Your husband is a shit that obviously loves the attention this colleague gives him. Are you still going on holiday today?

shakeitofff · 29/05/2019 13:23

@stupidorparanoid

Silly question but is he office based? I find when office based it seems like you're kind of forced to spend time with ppl. Dp said that's how it started. She chose to sit next to him , he was originally supposed to sit next to a dear old lady that he was happy to but she came to sit next to him and was always talking to him. God knows how true it is. But I remember this was before they started txting and he did mention it on the day he came from work.

Although, in dps work they do work out the office too I think it's because they became close whilst sat next to each other

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 13:25

@shakeitoff yes I must assume that she does. All his colleagues do, we have had some come home with their wives and kids for BBQ.

I am exactly like you - I am constantly checking if he is online on whats app.

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 13:27

@desparateforsleep we are supposed to leave tonight so am not sure if he will come or not. I am still going with DC.
I am choosing to ignore what to say to DC when the time comes if he is not going.

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 13:29

@shakeitoff he is kind of office based but moves around a lot during the day. She is in a different department so no way are they sitting together. If anything they probably just meet at tea/coffee time, lunch etc or make sure they bump into each other during the day!

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stupidorparanoid · 29/05/2019 13:32

should I take the lead and tell him not to come with us before he makes the decision himself. If he decides he doesn't want to come, then that would be more hurtful but if I say it, then for my own self esteem might be better. On the other hand I know DC will be devastated if he doesn't - so many plans made! I feel like am drowning

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Kedgeree · 29/05/2019 13:40

shakeitofff you know you don't need concrete proof right? If you're saying that you need concrete proof in order to end the relationship, then you must be saying that only that is the dealbreaker, not the fact that you don't trust him. If you don' trust him, can't trust him, then walk away. It's not the concrete proof that changes anything. Please don't exhaust yourself seeking it.

MsDogLady · 29/05/2019 14:07

@stupidorparanoid, I would tell him not to go. I wouldn’t go on a trip with him under these circumstances. Plus, he needs to understand that there are consequences for what he has done/is doing.

shakeitofff · 29/05/2019 22:19

@stupidorparanoid

Hope everything was ok op

Sassy306 · 30/05/2019 00:44

Has he definitely uninstalled secure folder? You can turn it off in the control panel so it doesnt appear in the app list. Worth checking

MsDogLady · 30/05/2019 01:00

@stupidorparanoid, how are you doing?

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stupidorparanoid · 30/05/2019 09:57

@sassy306 I have no way of knowing!!

@Msdoglady just me and my DC. He decided he needed to think and didnt come along.. think speaks volume. Am trying my best to be happy and making this fun for DC. Said that daddy had to work and cant come with us. Sad

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Sassy306 · 30/05/2019 10:06

If you pull the menu down from the top of the phone you can toggle the secure folder on or off (see pic, mine is on). when its off it wont show when you search the apps. If that button is not in his pull down menu at all then that means he has uninstalled it completley but if its there you can turn it back on and it will reappear in apps then you can check recycle bin as previous poster suggested.

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stupidorparanoid · 30/05/2019 14:14

@sassy306 I meant no way of knowing until I can get hold of his phone! Am away now with DC. Am trying to block him from my mind.

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DiscontinuedModelHusband · 30/05/2019 14:48

i'd stop trying to look for proof.
it's highly likely it'll all be gone anyway.

you can say to him that what you know for certain right now (previous texts, current photo, needing time to "think" away from family holiday) are a dealbreaker for you.

if you decided you couldn't continue in your relationship, no-one's going to check whether you have evidence to back up your decision!

shakeitofff · 30/05/2019 15:19

I disagree I would rather have some idea as to what's gone on before I leave and proof is possible. I broke up with my ex because of his suspicious behaviour. He then went around telling everyone I'D left him and he hadn't done anything wrong! The thing is I didn't have any proof he was cheating it was just breaking up the fact he kept doing suspicious things- deleting his Facebook, not ringing when out, turning up at stupid o clock in the morning etc etc

I beat myself up about it because I SHOULD have tried to check his phone much more than I did. Or even use a tracker anything that would have given me something because he painted me out to be the bad one, made out I'd left without trying etc etc.now if it happens again at least I'd have something to throw in his face before leaving with dignity

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 30/05/2019 15:51

shakeitoff i understand what you're saying, but realistically if you had more proof, would you have dug it out and showed people?

anyone that genuinely cares about your happiness and feelings wouldn't need to see proof, if you felt you had good reason.

anyone that would demand proof probably wouldn't be worth trying to convince anyway.

if OPs H has deleted all evidence, she's just going to drive herself mad searching, to what end?

if she feels trust is irrevocably broken (and i think this is reasonable given what she knows for fact already), she has the right to walk away.

even if she had proof, it's likely her H would try and blame her anyway.

booboo24 · 30/05/2019 16:01

@discontinued I totally agree with you, but i can see why people (myself included) need that proof - for me I wouldn't want to question myself months later and wonder if I'd thrown a relationship away over nothing. I'm a huge overthinker and have been cheated on spectacularly in the past so I think i'd need that justification for my own mind

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