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Advice for managing PIL with new baby

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WishingILivedOnAnIsland · 25/05/2019 06:33

My PIL are challenging people to get along with. When displeased they rant and scold, recite lists of hurtful personal comments on a loop, repeatedly threaten to cut DH out of their lives and have even thrown physical tantrums (dropping themselves on the floor sobbing). It can be over very small things and it is absolutely exhausting. They are easily offended and constantly feuding with someone or other. They have cut multiple family members permanently out of their lives.

We moved nearer to them when DC2 was born and found them overwhelming. They would show up multiple times a week uninvited and stay for hours while DH was at work. I had PNA for about 5 months after DC2 was born and unfortunately DH told them about it. They would repeatedly do things to our newborn (eg holding her up over their heads or kissing her when they were sick) that they’d been told triggered my anxiety. They since told DH that they’ve made a point of not following my requests in relation to DC because ‘if we had she would have just kept telling us what to do’ and anyway why should they listen to someone ‘mentally ill and irrational’.

I recovered completely from PNA a long time ago but they still constantly (as in, multiple times within a single conversation) refer to me as ‘mentally ill’ and ‘irrational’ and try to convince DH he shouldn’t allow me a say in decisions.

After trying for a long time to please them, I went LC about 1 year ago. My stepping back infuriated them and they have been compulsively criticising everything about me since. They actively hate me now. I cannot be in the room without at least one of them glaring/ pouting/ refusing to look at me when I speak-and sadly this behaviour is a best case scenario as we are always afraid of a massive scene. It’s really unpleasant and I am increasingly concerned about DC picking up on the dynamic as they get older.

I will give birth to DC3 soon. My counsellor said that PIL were a significant factor in worsening my PNA last time. My relationship with PIL has obviously soured since then so I expect they’ll be worse. They will likely demand a lot of bonding time with the new baby and DH will want to try to satisfy them in the hope of preventing theatrics. Basically I am dreading it and trying to think of how to protect myself emotionally during the newborn phase.

DH is a good man, a wonderful father and supportive to me in every other way. He is very intelligent but has a blind spot when it comes to his parents. He sometimes just goes along with what they say and want without considering if it’s reasonable. He tries hard to please them and is scared of their threats to cut him off. He respects my decision to be LC on some levels but also asks me to be ‘the bigger person’ by being relentlessly nice and accomodating to them no matter how they treat me.

I don’t want to be separated from my BF newborn so they can see her without me, which is what they will be expecting. However I am also worried about being pressured into contact with PIL while I am exhausted, hormonal and sensitive. I am concerned that I am at risk of another bout of PNA and I feel really stuck.

I want to sit DH down soon and agree on a plan for the newborn period ahead of time.

So my question (thanks if you made it this far!): what is reasonable in terms of PIL’s involvement here? What rules/limits/boundaries am I within my rights to ask for? Any tips or advice?

TLDR: PIL are hard work - tips / rules for managing them around new baby?

OP posts:
EKGEMS · 26/05/2019 17:15

He was too distracted to be told when you honestly thought you miscarried? You are an in a relationship with a man who doesn't prioritize you! His affection is with someone else-his parents are the "other woman" so to speak Aren't you worth more than this? The first time I saw a grown ass adult tantrum on the ground I'd have ran for the hills!

Xenadog · 26/05/2019 17:29

OP, fuck them all off. Tell DH that if he isn’t going to prioritise you and the children over his batshit crazy parents then he will need to run back home to them. I think you really need to get tough.

People will talk about him being engulfed in FOG and how he needs support but actually you need the help and he needs to figure it out pretty sharpish.

Pay the ILs anything you owe from the house and go NC. If he chooses not to then that’s OK - for now. They stay away from you and your home and the pair of you get couples counselling. I imagine after some couples counselling he will either figure it out and go LC or NC with his parents or you will decide he is too tied to them and you will move away.

Ultimately, life is far too short to put up with this shit - OP, you need to prioritise yourself and DC now and it’s down to DH to decide to choose a happy future or a toxic one with his DP.

S1naidSucks · 26/05/2019 17:51

The more you say about your spineless, selfish husband, the less I like him. OP. It’s ALL about what HE wants and needs. He doesn’t give a flying fuck if it impacts negatively on you, so long as he gets what he wants. Being abused does not give someone the right to ignore another person’s suffering, and that’s what has happened here. He’s doing the ‘poor me and my sad story’ crap, while expecting you to accept being the scapegoat and pandering to his needs. It doesn’t matter that they are currently good with the kids, they will eventually turn on them, like they did with him and the damage will have been done. It’ll be too late for him to say “I didn’t think they’d do/say that...wah wah”.

He’s actually an incredibly selfish husband and father.

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