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Forced to spend insane amount on wedding..Should I marry him? Feeling torn.

383 replies

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 07:50

Ok, this is going to be a long post so I need to apologise - but I want to explain as thoroughly as I can. I'm not a mum but I wanted some sensible advice.

I'm in my late twenties. Four years ago I met my bf on the internet. After a year of a long distance relationship, I emigrated to the country he was living in to be with him. I know, that sounds nuts. A huge step. Needless to say, I was infatuated with him.

My history - Before him, I had two previous relationships. The first one when I was 16. I suspect now he was personality disordered. He 10 timed me and beat the shit out of me, then impregnated a married woman 20 years older than him. Needless to say, that damaged me and it took a year or two to recover. The next relationship lasted 5 years. I left him in the end because he kept binge drinking, slapped me across the face when I asked him to do something and a few other abusive incidents (he wasn't a complete psycho like the last one but less than perfect).

So anyway, back my present bf. He is Asian and thus came with some cultural baggage. His parents live in his home country and always expected him to have an arranged marriage. After we'd been together several months he told them he met me and he wants to be with me. They were extremely upset and disapproving and came up with a whole litany of reasons why I was a bad idea - I wouldn't be understanding of their culture, I would divorce him after a couple of years, I didn't hold a masters degree, my degree subject wasn't prestigious enough, westerners have no morals or values, we wouldn't suit each other... on and on it went.

He told me that he would stay in a relationship with me as long as possible, but couldn't marry me without their approval. He said the shame his parents would face would ruin their lives and the people around them would bully them and gossip making their lives a misery. He said we could only marry with their approval. But if by the time he got to 29 years old the social pressure to marry is too great, and if they didn't accept by then he would be forced to leave me. Of course, I hated this, but I tried to understand from his perspective because I loved him so much.

Fast forward two years and they have finally accepted with a condition. The wedding has to happen according to their customs, in their home country, and me and my parents must contribute to half the costs, which would come to an insane 20 grand. They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise. Me and my parents could scrape together this amount of money but it just seems so wrong to spend this much on a wedding and to be forced to, as well. bf said his parents are compromising so much as they don't want me as a DIL at all, so now me and my parents need to compromise with spending the money and doing it their way.

I'm so conflicted I feel torn up inside. I feel like I don't know what to do anymore. My dad suggested that the money should be used as a house deposit instead of a wedding, and his parents got really offended by this, saying it's not about the money but about carrying out all the customs and traditions, and spending that amount of money is the only way it can be done.
My dad also thought I should ditch him on the principle that he would ultimately leave me if things came to that. There's a part of me that feels he is right, but I also have to understand my bf and his parent's POV. Holding some many conflicting views in my mind and so many shades of grey is driving me insane, frankly.

I've been reading through some of MN posts and I see the tendency to advocate leaving the relationship rather than staying. Honestly from the start our relationship has had huge strain because of these problems and my MH has naturally taken a hit. I've seen a number of therapists even one from his background - they didn't have an answer about the culture thing but said he is bordering emotionally abusive to me. (If he is annoyed at me he tends to give me the silent treatment, not at all great and the one problem in our relationship apart from the marriage issue).

I want a fresh perspective on this all. I don't know what to do. Any advice greatly appreciated. Tysm if you made it through this post.

OP posts:
Gruzinkerbell1 · 28/04/2019 10:02

Don’t do it OP. You know it’s not right.

Margot33 · 28/04/2019 10:03

End it.

rosabug · 28/04/2019 10:03

The parents sound grotesque. They are bullying him. He, and they will eventually bully you. If you have children you will be bullied out of any substantial say. You think it's difficult now? Wait till you have children. They will crush you.

Also, did it ever occur to you that these demands might be partly political, intended to test you to breaking point?

I wouldn't submit to a culture like this - sorry - it's offensive. Let him have his arranged marriage - really what sort of person uses this to threaten you to get your family to spend £20,000?

You need to look after yourself before you disappear down this rabbit hole.

greathat · 28/04/2019 10:06

You should leave. The controlling you via blackmail is the big clue here. You should leave and make it clear why

BeardedMum · 28/04/2019 10:07

Run for the hills. It will only get worse. 20k is an insane amount to spend on a wedding and it’s only half the cost?

Bettercallsaul1 · 28/04/2019 10:07

You will never have an equal relationship, which is the first requirement for happiness, with this man. This is because he is - and always will be - a son first, and a boyfriend/husband second. Trust everyone on this thread, OP - this relationship will never make you happy but will lead to ever-increasing problems, especially when you have children. Cut your losses now, and start again.

MoreGrassLessWeeds · 28/04/2019 10:08

They are asking for dowry and will ask for money every step of the way. Leave.

Holidayshopping · 28/04/2019 10:11

Run for the hills-if they hate you now, this is just the beginning of a life of misery for you.

Listen to your dad-break up with him now.

Innernutshell · 28/04/2019 10:11

There is no need to decide anything right now op.

Give yourself time to think.

Before you do anything please consider doing The Freedom Programme online - it's likely to be the best £12 you ever spent.

HappyMisfit · 28/04/2019 10:13

They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise

He should go fuck himself then

keepyerbrowson · 28/04/2019 10:17

Your poor dad must be worried out of his mind.

He's the one you've known your entire life, absolutely has your best interests at heart, and loves you infinitely more than anyone else mentioned in your post.

Leave this insane, miserable situation and go home to him. Thanks

InfiniteCurve · 28/04/2019 10:18

Culture is not a get out of jail free card to excuse any kind of behaviour.
Some behaviours aren't good/acceptable/whatever whether they are part of your culture or not.
I'm not prepared to accept women not being allowed to own things in their own right once they are married,or a husband having the right to sex with his wife regardless of her wishes or child marriage - those things were all part of our culture in the UK. There are probably better examples!
But just cos it's your culture that doesn't make it right - UK culture,Asian culture,whatever.Some bits will be good and some bits won't.

stirling · 28/04/2019 10:21

I haven't read replies but I have to quickly reply.
Do not marry this man! For one reason only : someone laying an ultimatum based on you parting with money DOES NOT LOVE YOU!
I'm Asian, I've never heard of a half half split for a wedding. Please, please do not marry. Men from my culture (sounds like your bf) are notoriously obsessed with their parents approval.
Please save yourself and your family.

TowelNumber42 · 28/04/2019 10:26

The choices aren't between an abusive man and a mystical, perfect man with everything just how I want

Most of us marry nice men who are flawed but not abusive. All people are flawed. There are loads of wonderful ordinarily nice men in the world. None of them perfect.

You have crazy ideas about what is acceptable in a relationship. Stop. Leave. Work on yourself. You have at least ten years to couple up and make babies.

Listen to your dad. I hope he refuses to give you his money.

Aussiebean · 28/04/2019 10:32

I think it’s clear that you two are not a united front or a team.

You are very much below his parents in the pecking order and when something comes up regarding decisions for your children, of his parents have an opinion, yours will not count for anything.

Family decisions will be made by him and his family, not what you and him decide is best for you and your children.

If what is best for you, conflicts with his cultural obligations, then you miss out. (He has already shown you that this is the case)

Up to you of course, but he has already told you that your wants and needs come last, and it won’t change.

Serin · 28/04/2019 10:32

OP I have a daughter your age and I would be bloody disappointed in her if she asked me for 20k to fund her wedding/dowry.
Esp if she was having therapy to cope with that relationship.

Have you no shame?

The only man you need in your life right now is your Dad.

Come home and work on your self esteem.

You really, really really dont need a man in your life to make you happy.

tinstar · 28/04/2019 10:36

My dad also thought I should ditch him on the principle that he would ultimately leave me if things came to that. There's a part of me that feels he is right, but I also have to understand my bf and his parent's POV.

OP - you really DON'T have to understand his parents' views. Just because they are 'cultural' does not mean they are right and you have to respect them. If he came from a country which practices fgm and you had a daughter would you stand by and let her be brutalised - because it's 'cultural'? Or allow her to be placed in an arranged marriage at 14 - because it's cultural? Or stand by while she is placed in a pit and stoned to death for having an affair - because it's cultural ?

You don't have to blindly accept what you are told because, "it's part of our culture".

JonestheMail · 28/04/2019 10:38

I think you know this is the time to walk away OP. Time to look after yourself and plan a future happy life for yourself, not a life of servitude and criticism and being looked down on. You've had some real corkers of crap relationships and that would grind anyone down, but please don't settle for less than you are worth.

Take it from me if you don't do this, at some point you will be one of the women who post on here saying that they are trapped because they have DC in a foreign country with a partner who has turned out to be horrible, but they can't leave because the partner and local laws won't let the DC leave.

Holidayshopping · 28/04/2019 10:40

Take it from me if you don't do this, at some point you will be one of the women who post on here saying that they are trapped because they have DC in a foreign country with a partner who has turned out to be horrible, but they can't leave because the partner and local laws won't let the DC leave.

This x 1000. And that time there will nothing your dad can do to help you.

RussellSprout · 28/04/2019 10:43

The first word in the title of your thread is 'forced.' Think about that. And it's in relation to your wedding!

Do you think someone being forced to do anything by their partner is in a healthy relationship?

I think you're scared yo be on your own, your scared no one else will want you and this is you one and only shot at marriage and children.

I can see no other explanation for why you would take this crap.

tinstar · 28/04/2019 10:43

I think the OP was looking for validation that she was worrying needlessly. I'm not sure she's prepared to listen to anything else 🤷‍♀️

C8H10N4O2 · 28/04/2019 10:43

they didn't have an answer about the culture thing but said he is bordering emotionally abusive to me. (If he is annoyed at me he tends to give me the silent treatment

If your best friend was thinking of marrying someone emotionally abusive toward them and demaning they pay 20k for the privilege of marrying him what would your advice be?

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 28/04/2019 10:44

Oh dear. Imagine having children with this man AND HIS FAMILY. No, thanks!

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 10:48

I'm in tears reading through all these replies. Everyone must think I'm a complete idiot. It's an unbelievably gut wrenching decision to make even when it's plain as day to everyone else [Sad]

babba2014 - I really appreciated your post a few pages back. It made a lot of sense. And for all the other pp's posts who came from an asian background.
Serin - All of 20 k would not come from my dad, majority of the money would come from my own savings but that's besides the point because YES I feel ashamed asking for even a single penny from them. Yes I feel ashamed about the whole thing, thank you.
tinstar - that's right. they are much more extreme examples but your point is valid. To be in a relationship with him I've just had to try and see his POV but it's messed with my head.

OP posts:
stirling · 28/04/2019 10:48

I think OP has stopped reading replies, but incase you pick this up, I just wanted to add that it's ABSURD to put his parent's sense of "shame" before your own parents struggle and difficulty in raising the funds.

My Asian parents were mortified when I married outside of my culture, twice, they went through the whole "what will people say?" nonsense but then eventually came to accept my happiness and arrange a low key wedding without the hundreds of relatives /gossipy friends.

I've spent decades on mumsnet watching women harsh to the op and finding it disturbing, but I have to say, your case is quite unbelievable. I really feel sorry for your parents and I hope they don't fund your wedding. That you'll fall down in the future with this guy no matter where you're living is inevitable and something you have to go through.

But don't do that to your parents, how utterly cruel of you.