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Forced to spend insane amount on wedding..Should I marry him? Feeling torn.

383 replies

sakurawarrior · 28/04/2019 07:50

Ok, this is going to be a long post so I need to apologise - but I want to explain as thoroughly as I can. I'm not a mum but I wanted some sensible advice.

I'm in my late twenties. Four years ago I met my bf on the internet. After a year of a long distance relationship, I emigrated to the country he was living in to be with him. I know, that sounds nuts. A huge step. Needless to say, I was infatuated with him.

My history - Before him, I had two previous relationships. The first one when I was 16. I suspect now he was personality disordered. He 10 timed me and beat the shit out of me, then impregnated a married woman 20 years older than him. Needless to say, that damaged me and it took a year or two to recover. The next relationship lasted 5 years. I left him in the end because he kept binge drinking, slapped me across the face when I asked him to do something and a few other abusive incidents (he wasn't a complete psycho like the last one but less than perfect).

So anyway, back my present bf. He is Asian and thus came with some cultural baggage. His parents live in his home country and always expected him to have an arranged marriage. After we'd been together several months he told them he met me and he wants to be with me. They were extremely upset and disapproving and came up with a whole litany of reasons why I was a bad idea - I wouldn't be understanding of their culture, I would divorce him after a couple of years, I didn't hold a masters degree, my degree subject wasn't prestigious enough, westerners have no morals or values, we wouldn't suit each other... on and on it went.

He told me that he would stay in a relationship with me as long as possible, but couldn't marry me without their approval. He said the shame his parents would face would ruin their lives and the people around them would bully them and gossip making their lives a misery. He said we could only marry with their approval. But if by the time he got to 29 years old the social pressure to marry is too great, and if they didn't accept by then he would be forced to leave me. Of course, I hated this, but I tried to understand from his perspective because I loved him so much.

Fast forward two years and they have finally accepted with a condition. The wedding has to happen according to their customs, in their home country, and me and my parents must contribute to half the costs, which would come to an insane 20 grand. They will not compromise on this and bf has said he will leave me for an arranged marriage otherwise. Me and my parents could scrape together this amount of money but it just seems so wrong to spend this much on a wedding and to be forced to, as well. bf said his parents are compromising so much as they don't want me as a DIL at all, so now me and my parents need to compromise with spending the money and doing it their way.

I'm so conflicted I feel torn up inside. I feel like I don't know what to do anymore. My dad suggested that the money should be used as a house deposit instead of a wedding, and his parents got really offended by this, saying it's not about the money but about carrying out all the customs and traditions, and spending that amount of money is the only way it can be done.
My dad also thought I should ditch him on the principle that he would ultimately leave me if things came to that. There's a part of me that feels he is right, but I also have to understand my bf and his parent's POV. Holding some many conflicting views in my mind and so many shades of grey is driving me insane, frankly.

I've been reading through some of MN posts and I see the tendency to advocate leaving the relationship rather than staying. Honestly from the start our relationship has had huge strain because of these problems and my MH has naturally taken a hit. I've seen a number of therapists even one from his background - they didn't have an answer about the culture thing but said he is bordering emotionally abusive to me. (If he is annoyed at me he tends to give me the silent treatment, not at all great and the one problem in our relationship apart from the marriage issue).

I want a fresh perspective on this all. I don't know what to do. Any advice greatly appreciated. Tysm if you made it through this post.

OP posts:
CaMePlaitPas · 28/04/2019 09:09

By the way OP this 20K isn't towards "wedding costs" - it's a dowry.

BuckingFrolics · 28/04/2019 09:09

You are making a big big mistake if you marry this man.

MaybeitsMaybelline · 28/04/2019 09:10

The fact that he would prefer to part ways with you and marry a stranger if you dont comply with his family’s requests says it all for me.

A break up is hard, but not nearly so hard as living with this shit for the next fifty years.

Purplecatshopaholic · 28/04/2019 09:10

If you marry this man you will be back on here in a year or two crying about it! You will by then be living in his home country, probably with his parents with kids that he wont let leave. Please dont do it.

ForTheTimeBeing · 28/04/2019 09:11

He doesn't love you. He doesn't respect you. You're setting yourself up for a lifetime of misery if you continue the relationship.
Please get professional help to work on your self-esteem.

brizzlemint · 28/04/2019 09:13

I'd be on the first plane out of there. This is not how you show respect for somebody that you love.

Travelban · 28/04/2019 09:13

I agree with everyone else
20k is a dowry
Culture is being used as an excuse to be abusive
The parents and dp are controlling and disrespectful
You will have a terrible life, please reconsider carefully.

JessieMcJessie · 28/04/2019 09:14

Please, don’t get caught up in people saying he’s abusive and getting defensive.

You can end a relationship for less and not go away regretting the whole thing, just accept that it’s run it’s course and has no future.

bengalcat · 28/04/2019 09:17

Leave . If you marry , children will be next and you will lose them .

Dowdydoes · 28/04/2019 09:18

You haven’t yet had a good relationship. One that is fun and one where you both put each other first and above any other stuff including families.

Leave and have that relationship.

You can’t marry into a family where family is so important to your dh and they dislike what you represent. He hasn’t and can’t stand up for you and is blackmailing you emotionally. You do not want children in this set up, there are so many very dreadful outcomes.

EstuaryBird · 28/04/2019 09:22

I feel so sorry for your Dad.

If he doesn’t cough up 20K you will likely feel that he has jeopardised your future ‘happiness’ with this wonderful man and acceptance into the warm heart of his loving family - and you will undoubtedly be heart broken as he skips off into the sunset with his arranged bride.

If he does cough up 20K he’s going to watch your life descend into misery and know that he’s enabled it by paying.

If he does pay and you intend to go ahead then do not let your DP return home to make the arrangements and leave you in your current home. It is not unknown for the money to be used for the wedding to the arranged bride.

Do you know where his family live, have you met them? Do you have proof they even exist?

Run for the hills, and run very, very fast.

fluffygreenmonsterhoody · 28/04/2019 09:22

OP I don’t think that, in all these pages, you’ve mentioned how completely head over heels in love you are..?

MrsDilligaf · 28/04/2019 09:23
  1. Leave Mr Mostly Kind. Immediately. You do not need him or his family, who, by the way, sound horrid.

  2. Freedom Programme. This will help hugely. Give yourself time to grow, and move away from all that's happened.

  3. Forget about Mr Mystical Perfect Man, he doesn't exist, but I promise you, you have time. I was 39 when I got engaged, married and had DD at 41.

Summon up the strength to leave.

springydaff · 28/04/2019 09:24

I married someone from another culture. I made excuses for him, putting it down to his culture.

Turns out he was an abuser from another culture, that's all.

Girl, get home. Do the Freedom Programme, read Lundy Bancroft's book. Get on the road to healing so you won't keep attracting/accepting/excusing abusers xx

SignedUpJust4This · 28/04/2019 09:24

Nothing good can come of this OP. Please run.you could be tying yourself to another awful and potentially abusive situation here.

EerieSilence · 28/04/2019 09:26

Run. Run now till you can. He will get worse and more controlling once he makes sure he’s got you legally bound to him.
Make sure you understand what the laws are in his country regarding marriage and spouses ‘ rights now and consider.
He is not kind, he is notgreat, he is no Mr Perfect. Let him have his arranged marriage.

ImNotNigel · 28/04/2019 09:27

If you have children with him, you will lose them to him and his family.

So get out now.

I can’t believe you didn’t listen when several therapists and your own father told you he was abusive. Is that what you usually do when people give you advice you have asked for ?

Or is this just a set up to prove that MN “always advocates leaving”, as you say in your OP. Which is a gross mischaracterisation BTW. If you were already married to this man and has children with him, everyone would be telling you to stay in the country you are in. So quite the opposite of your lazy stereotype.

GreenTulips · 28/04/2019 09:28

I don't know in what ways they will interfere in the future

PP is right, they want you to work so they can raise your children, you won’t be able to leave or parent your babies. They will wear you down.

Are you expected to live with them once married?

There’s a thread on here but the lady is a few years down the line and the parents expect all their money raise the kids and demand gifts etc just to show how wonderful their son is .....

Go now

RelaisBlu · 28/04/2019 09:29

If it's like this before you're married it will only be worse once you have a baby as they are undoubtedly going to be very controlling about how their grandchildren should be raised in their culture. Also if they hold such a low opinion of western morals & values, your child(ren) may be taught to disrespect you by your husband's family in many subtle & insidious ways. I would not go ahead with this marriage.

DowntonCrabby · 28/04/2019 09:31

You have to leave him.

This would only ever have worked if he’d been willing to stand up to his parents about anything concerning your relationship. He absolutely never will be able to fo that. You’ll feel so trapped and controlled by his whole family that the marriage would never work anyway.

Move back home, you’re still young enough to completely start again.

scarecrowhead · 28/04/2019 09:31

Get out op, this is just the beginning. What else will you have to do to please them ? It will be a lifetime of misery, they'll never accept you, you'll never be good enough for them.
Cut your losses and go home.

YoureAllABunchOfBastards · 28/04/2019 09:31

Run. Run now and run fast. This will not end well.

azulmariposa · 28/04/2019 09:32

So OP if he definitely isn't using you for sex- I presume you are both celibate? He wouldn't be getting any from someone of his own culture, and if he did, she wouldn't be marriage material as they want to marry virgins.

* He is kind, mostly. But not perfect.*.. I feel like I don't have time to find a mystical, perfect man with everything just how I want.

He should be kind all the time. It soon changes to he is kind sometimes. Believe me.

Why don't you have time? If he isn't everything you want, why the hell are you considering marriage?!?

scarecrowhead · 28/04/2019 09:36

I actually think they might also be trying to rip you off

fonxey · 28/04/2019 09:36

Don't do it! He will always put his family before you. I understand in a way it is his culture and his parents and his upbringing, but if that matters so much to him he should just get the arranged marriage they want for him and not waste your time.

Relationships, a partnership with a person is equal and mutual. If he loves you he would put his foot down and make a decision. He could tell his parents no and marry you anyway. They might have come around in the end faces with the choice of losing their son and potential grandchildren. He obviously choose to go against part of his culture and parents wishes to be with you, why not go the full hog?

So leave him. Don't take 20k from your parents for a marriage that by the sound of it you're already not happy with. You'll never get it back.

People spend crazy amounts of money on weddings as it is. 20k is fine if it's spare change, but if you have to choose between a house deposit/life savings and a wedding... Seriously not worth it. Especially if you don't even want to!

Tell your boyfriend it is not happening. He has to choose... His parents or you.

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