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Final straw last night. Handhold please

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TescoValueUserName · 27/02/2019 07:28

My relationship has been pretty crap for a while but whether gaslighting has been involved or whether I'm just weak I don't know, but I haven't been able to find the strength.

My self confidence has gone, self esteem is through the floor, but when I went away with just my children and my mum last week I felt different. I realised that I was so much happier and relaxed. I got my confidence back that I could actually make decisions and no one was going to criticise me for them. At home I no longer feel like I can make decisions as I'm either told I'm wrong or overruled.

He is a bully to me, and increasingly our 6 year old. At the weekend she was putting on a show in the house, she had made signs and put a pillow on the floor where her and her little sister had to start off asleep. They were in the middle of playing and a friend was going to be dropped off. He suddenly went mad about the pillow being on the playroom floor and shouted at her to put it away. She argued as they were playing and he started repeatedly screaming at her to put it back where it was. She got all flustered so he screwed up all the pictures she had put up. 5 mins later my friend came with his daughter and the bad mood was completely switched off and he was all smiles and laughter again.

Last night she did something and he screamed at her to go upstairs because she didn't do it straight away he grabbed her round the waist and pushed her really hard upstairs and in her room. I ran up to try and stop him, shouted for him to leave her alone and he lost it with me. Apparently it was my fault as I didn't back him up originally.

Firstly I don't think that if 1 parent is dealing with something the other needs to jump in and deal.with it too, but secondly I often can't back him up as he's wrong anyway.

He'll tell off for doing something which I know she hasn't done.and if I say she hasn't done it he loses it and starts shouting at me.

He has no.issue shouting at me in front of the children or ignoring anything I say to them and either telling them they can or can't do something when I have said the opposite, but apparently I'm.in the wrong for not backing him up when he's telling my daughter off for running down the stairs when she wasn't.

He winds her up.to the point that she either gets angry then he shouts at her, or cries then he laughs at her.

I can't do it any more. He went out last night and I tried calling women's aid but they were busy. I need to leave but the only place I could go is my mum's but it's down the road and he would be straight round.

I don't know if to speak to school to tell them what happened last night? I have no idea what to do, I just know that I need to go.

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TescoValueUserName · 01/03/2019 10:45

I'm seeing someone from Citizens advice this afternoon so that'll help me get a plan.

Apparently social care haven't got back to the school yet after they called them to get advice so I'm not sure what's happening there.

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Bluetrews25 · 01/03/2019 10:56

OP you are doing great and I applaud you.
He imposed your conditions for return so he can (truthfully) say to people that this is what he told you to do, following the lie that he threw you out for bad behaviour.
Sneaky git.
Just reinforces that you have done the right thing.
'When you're going through hell, keep going'

showmewhatyougot · 01/03/2019 11:18

Oh Tesco well done for getting out :) no matter what you feel like, you really are a brave strong woman!

Good luck for the future x

TescoValueUserName · 01/03/2019 11:27

Yes, the story will be that I wasn't working and did nothing round the house which he got annoyed by and i left, not that i spent my life walking on eggshells not knowing what was going to piss him off next and that i spent so much time trying to modify the girls and my behaviour so as not to piss him off.

One turning point for me was when a friend said you do realise that you don't have to rush home to tidy up before he gets back don't you? I said I did because it made things easier and less likely that he would start shouting at the girls when he got in. Her face said it all.

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pilates · 01/03/2019 13:32

Op, I like the way he has twisted it around to make him the wronged party 😡good luck to you and your children and im sure you will be happy again 💐

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 01/03/2019 15:32

Let him twist it as much as he wants.

You know the truth.

And you're OUT!!!! Your DDs will thank you for this when they're older. Imagine growing up in that atmosphere... you will soar. And so will they.

Best wishes for the start of the rest of your life. Flowers

Happynow001 · 01/03/2019 15:36

Better to be out of there and him badmouth you, than in there and he abuses your children. Stay strong OP.

Dontcarewhatimdoing · 01/03/2019 15:52

He is desperately trying to convince himself he is still in control of this situation isn't he! Just be prepared for the tears and tantrums when he realises that you are not dancing to his tune any more. You are definitely doing the right thing. I have no doubt it will get really tough over the next few months, but stick with it. You will all be so much better off in the long run. If he does turn up at your Mum's and won't leave, don't hesitate to call the police.

FizzyGreenWater · 01/03/2019 16:37

Wowee.

One thing, get into the house pronto as soon as you know he's not there and take anything you don't want thrown out, toys etc. and stuff you'd have to re-buy - especially after what he's just said about getting rid of things - he will skip your possessions just to be an arse as soon as he realises you aren't coming back. Ask a friend with a car to help! And fuck anything he says - your stuff, your childrens' stuff - no problem with you taking it.

IncrediblySadToo · 01/03/2019 16:43

You can do this WaitroseFinest

I hope you don’t relent and go back.

I would tell your eldest that Daddies aren’t allowed to scream and shout (or whatever she’d recognise) at Mummies or children and that because he does that, you’re not going to be living together anymore, but that hopefully when she sees Daddy he will behave like fun Daddy, not shouty, scary Daddy.

Don’t pretend his behaviour was acceptable. She needs to understand it us NOT.

Happynow001 · 01/03/2019 17:49

As another PP has said, If you haven't already do ensure you talk all legal, financial documents (eg passports, birth certificates, bank and other investment certificates). If you can get access to any of his financial and legal paperwork ;ie salary, investments, pension) take a copy/photo as these may be useful. Also go online on the entitledto.co.uk website to see what benefits you are entitled to.

Happynow001 · 01/03/2019 17:52

Sorry take all legal not talk all legal

Grumpelstilskin · 01/03/2019 18:59

Hang in there. It will be worth it for being free from him and your DC not being emotionally abused.

Homebird8 · 01/03/2019 20:52

Value, you don’t have to be Tesco, just use your middle name and believe it!

TescoValueUserName · 01/03/2019 20:53

Just had a bit of a revelation. I need to pop to town tomorrow to return some stuff. I hesitated for a minute as it's the weekend, then realised that I could without checking with anyone first! It felt very freeing!

I don't think I realised quite how controlled I felt by him. I can make my own decisions without worrying that they're going to piss someone off and get me the cold shoulder, or just overruled. Grin

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TescoValueUserName · 01/03/2019 20:54

Homebird, wish there was a like button!

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TescoValueUserName · 01/03/2019 21:50

Fuck it. I'm going to have to go back.

Mum's making me watch gogglebox!

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Walkacrossthesand · 01/03/2019 21:58

Gogglebox is funny! A useful way for a not-much-telly-watcher to have a vague idea what people are watching, too...

Raspberrytruffle · 02/03/2019 15:34

How are you holding up op? X

TescoValueUserName · 02/03/2019 22:49

I'm...ok really I think.

I've spoken to a local domestic violence helpline today which was really helpful. I'm going to be assigned a case worker next week and they will call me to see what they can do to help me.

My eldest is starting to struggle a bit though, she's getting very clingy and lots of attention seeking behaviour. She's getting very emotional and getting very upset if I tell her off for anything. She's not sleeping too well at my mum's so I think it's a combination of everything. I'll ask the DV case worker next week if there's anything they can help with.

I'm going to go and see a solicitor asap to get advice as I'm getting very mixed advice about my entitlement to the house so need to find out. I think she would do a lot better if she could be back in her own house.

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AnotherEmma · 02/03/2019 22:53

Who have you spoken to so far about the house? What have they said?

You're not married, and if the mortgage and deeds are in his name, you have very few legal rights to stay unfortunately. Have you made any financial contributions to the mortgage or any work on the house?

Motoko · 02/03/2019 23:13

The only reason you might have some entitlement to the house, is if you'd contributed to the mortgage, or paid for improvements. Then you may have what's called a beneficial interest. But if that's the case, you'd only possibly be entitled to a share of the equity, you wouldn't be able to move back and have him move out.

This is why it's advised to women to either get married, or make sure they're on the deeds of the house, if they don't marry.

You won't be moving back, so your DD will need to adjust, and children do adjust. Even if it takes her a while, it's better for her, and you all, to be out of that abusive dynamic, so don't think about moving back in with him because she's finding it difficult.

TescoValueUserName · 02/03/2019 23:26

Apparently the law has changed recently.

As we have children I can stay in the house till they're 18 if the courts think it's in their best interests.

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TescoValueUserName · 02/03/2019 23:27

A friend has sent me this

Final straw last night. Handhold please
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TescoValueUserName · 02/03/2019 23:29

I'm not thinking of moving back in with him, he's the reason she's struggling. I'd be doing her a complete disservice to put her back in there

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