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MIL - Am I overreacting?

149 replies

user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 20:58

Hey! I would like to seek advice on a delicate yet frustrating situation. I've seen a few posts about a similar thing, but I thought I would write my own experience as a cry for help. The MIL. (although me and OH are not married)

We've been together for 3 years, and moved into a rental house just over a year ago. This is his first time being away from his mum (he's 29) but not my first time. (Moved out when I was 20)

He = the BF and she = the MIL to make things easier to read.

He is her only child. Although he has siblings on his dads side. It's basically only ever been them two throughout the majority of his life. But she has completely wrapped him up in cotton wool, that he can't do anything. No DIY skills, no common sense with certain things, doesn't know how to clean etc. If he has a headache, she'll throw him some of her morphine tablets. If his neck hurts, she'll come out with things like ''Oh meningitis is going around'' She seems to hold some kind of manipulative spell over him as well. They are very close, and that I would never ever like to change.

Shes one of those people who appears disabled when in public, but swans around her house when no other people are around. (I dislike that in people) and she will use the ''IM DISABLED'' card. She is no more disabled than my own mother, who is quietly suffering from severe arthritus. Oh, in fact, I even mentioned my mum to her and her response was ''OH IVE GOT THAT'' which she doesn't! OK, I'm ranting onto irrelevent subjects now.

The issue is this.

This woman is the most overbearing person I have ever met. Anyone who has met her has said the same. (My family and a friend were helping us move, as was she) Just being around her for 5 minutes feels like forever.

After we moved in, he instantly gave her a key. Without asking me, although I don't mind for emergencies.

Anyways, a good thing is she never just shows up without a phone call first. But she does use her key and does show up when we are not here (After calling him to warn him first)

Even if we are in, she barges in. But again, we are expecting her.

She comes over every Friday after work, and Sunday morning. She does this because she collects his washing.

She brings him his toiletries, boxers, socks, new tops, shower gels, razers, the lot. When she is here, she will moan that the place is untidy and will clean despite me saying I'm doing it tomorrow. (Saturday usually)

He is very lazy, and I have absolutely no doubt that this is because of her. She used to clean his room before he moved out for goodness sakes!!

And she has cleaned this house when we haven't been here before. I got back from work one day and she was here. The first thing she came out with was ''I havent been upstairs, I wouldn't do that''
That in itself was suspicious. I keep the doors closed upstairs just incase.

We hosted a bbq for one of their family members, and she literally took over. I just went very inwards and quiet. I was so uncomfortable.

She also tells us to get a cleaner. She has mentioned this maybe 5 times. I tried to tell him to firmly tell her no but she will do it again.
She took our oven gloves away once to clean. But we never received them back because she deemed them too unclean! They were not in bad condition as they were only a year old! She's done this with few items.

There was an occasion where he told me she was coming over, but I was in the house on my own, needing to wash my hair. I was too scared to shower because she would have barged in as she didn't know I was there. Yeah she barged in. Good thing I delayed my shower.

I try to go to my mums anytime she's over now because I'm too tired to be dealing with it.

There was one Sunday, she was calling him at 9am (They had plans for him to go to hers for dinner at 12pm). We were both asleep due to a late night and ofc, ITS SUNDAY. He slept through the calls and she immediately called my phone. I muted it to sleep in. We got up at 9.30ish. He had 8 missed calls and I had 4!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like who does that!!!!!!!! She was just checking he was going to hers at 12, despite them discussing it the evening before.

And now, she's invited herself over this weekend to ''Clean my house''

My house isnt untidy in the slightest. It's just LIVED in. But I can't discuss this with him because he will take offense and just say ''she's just trying to help'' and OK, maybe I am being selfish here, I am unsure. But i dont feel comfortable with it, nor do I want her cleaning everytime shes here.

On new years eve, we had plans. Our friends were coming over and we would go to the local pub for 10ish. My mum and her partner was also at the pub as it's their local too. Well our plans didn't work out because his mum decided to go to the pub too. (She barely ever goes out) She called him and told him to get to the pub because she was surprising him by being there. So he did, whilst I waited for our friends because they were leaving the cars at mine. By the time they were all here, we walked straight to the pub. His mum left an hour later as she was tired.
Shortly after she left, my mum told me that she had been moaning because I was late??? My mum no longer has respect for her due to what she was saying. (It's rare for my mum to dislike someone) Bottom line is, she knew what our plans were and she expected us to drop them. We were due to go to the pub at 10ish and instead had to get there for 8 to accommodate her, discarding all of the games we had planned prior to the pub. How that makes me late, I do not know!!!

If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated. I want to get over this because for his sake, I cant have this turning into resentment. I used to adore this lady, but now she is under my skin and it's building up!

I can't talk to him about it because it will hurt him and he will instantly become defensive. I can't talk to her, because of the same thing. Maybe I just need to get over it? xx

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2019 21:22

No you do not need to get over it.

You need to get away from the two of them and as soon as possible. This is your life with him and his batshit mother going forward because theirs is a dysfunctional and codependent relationship and his primary relationship is with her, not you. She says jump and he says how high. You will always play second fiddle here to her when it comes to him and he does not have your back at all here. He is no ideal man to you at all and sees you as another mother figure there primarily to run around after him and for him with the additional benefit of someone i.e. you to have sex with. He is too mired in his own inertia re his mother as well as his own fear obligation and guilt which he has in spades.

I have to look at you in all this too and ask why you and he are together at all now. What are you getting out of this exactly? He has been emotionally stunted by his mother who has no boundaries or filter to the point of sheer laziness. He remains so and his loyalty will be to her because he is far more afraid of her than he ever is of you. He is no partner material let alone father material. Raise your own relationship bar here a lot higher going forward too because it has been too low to date.

ElspethFlashman · 03/01/2019 21:25

RUN FOR THE HILLLLLLLSSSSSS......

TheAntiGrinch · 03/01/2019 21:28

You're not overreacting but you do need to consider whether this is something you can live with. There's no guarantee that a) your partner will fully understand your frustrations with his mother, b) that he would talk to her about her behaviour, or c) that she would take any advice of his onboard. I feel from what you've written that you may need to accept that your partner will always have a blindspot where his mother is concerned.

Ideally you and your partner could both have an honest and thorough conversation about what boundaries youd like to set (e.g. key only for emergency use, no visiting without setting a date and time in advance with more than a days notice etc.). But it's going to be hard to even get to this stage with your partner because he's never really matured out of being a teenager with regards to his relationship with his mother. Perhaps couple therapy may work so that his own issues could be highlighted and so that he can gain external confirmation that his boundaries with his mother are abnormal. Furthermore it highlights the seriousness or the issue - if you cant agree on what you each believe is appropriate behaviour from his mother then your relationship is unlikely to prosper...

showmeyourgroovymoves · 03/01/2019 21:29

Fuck that. She comes to collect his washing Shock

Jesus, she (or he) is never going to change. Do you really want to live like that? I'm afraid I couldn't.

SeaGreenSeaGlass · 03/01/2019 21:30

It won't change, so don't hope for that. Either accept this is your life or leave them to it.

Orchidflower1 · 03/01/2019 21:31

I very rarely post on mil thread as sometimes they are just a bashing but OMG!!!
As theMN saying goes( slightly adapted) you have a mil problem but a MASSIVE oh problem.

He needs to put his foot down or it will only get worse! He needs to grow up or you need to get out.

WhatchaMaCalllit · 03/01/2019 21:32

You need to do one of two things - either leave him and be very clear as to why (so that he can decide whether he wants to do something about it or stay single for the rest of his life) or you can tackle it head on.
Tell her to stop coming over for his washing. He is a grown man and should know how to use the washing machine. She is treating him like a baby and not an adult.
Tell her to stop commenting on the cleanliness of your home as her DS also lives there and knows where the vacuum and cleaning products are but due to her smothering behaviour, he is incapable of cleaning.
Tell him that if he doesn't start behaving like a 29 year old, you will leave him and find a 29 year old who can do all of the stuff he can't and love you too.

ffiffi8 · 03/01/2019 21:33

I could've written this post!

Top tip - if you don't want her barging in when you're in, lock the door and leave the keys in the lock 😊 she won't be able to use her keys!

HollowTalk · 03/01/2019 21:33

Get away from both of them. Don't even think about trying to change him. He's not worth it.

PrincessScarlett · 03/01/2019 21:33

Jesus, what qualities DOES your DP have?

user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 21:33

I didn't even think about how this would be long term.
As a 30 year old, I would like to consider children. But the thought of the MIL...
Maybe I do need to have a big long think

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WhatchaMaCalllit · 03/01/2019 21:34

Oh, and to add, I think you're massively UNDER reacting to both his lack of and her over active carrying on!

user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 21:35

Tried to leave the latch on and she nearly broke the door down!!! If the key is in, she will try to open it and then continuously knock until the door is answered! Sigh!

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FlagFish · 03/01/2019 21:35

You are not over reacting. You must talk to him.

WhiteWashGails · 03/01/2019 21:36

Collects his washing!
Don’t be a mug, dump him for an adult

DartmoorDoughnut · 03/01/2019 21:36

Run.

DitzyPrints · 03/01/2019 21:37

Yep run for the hills is right get going op Jesus!

user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 21:37

He does have some good qualities. I don't believe he is aware of most of it but he gets so defensive if I mention it. Although even he once admitted his mother does too much.
I've never been with someone like this. But then again I've never been with essentiall6 an only child. His mum is on her own,and single. Which is why I've gone along with it because he is all she has.

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WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 03/01/2019 21:38

Fuck that for a game of soldiers. Move on and up!

Santaisfastasleepatlast · 03/01/2019 21:39

I think you live with my dd's ex!! His dm used to make his bait and leave it behind the bin on her way to work. Also did his washing despite having bought them a washing machine! She would come back from work if he was going out and needed a shirt ironed!!

Orchidflower1 · 03/01/2019 21:39

A big long thing indead op AND a big long talk to the man child. If he loves you enough to change both his behaviour and how he responds to his mother that’s great. If not at least you know where you stand before dc come along.

Gazelda · 03/01/2019 21:40

You're going to have to get DP to set and maintain boundaries, or walk away. Anything else would be madness.

Ozziewozzie · 03/01/2019 21:41

Oh my days, some BOYS and their bloomin mummy’s. I find it really off putting. A man should be a man, independent from his mother.
What happens when his mother dies? Are you expected to jump in and do it all for him? They both clearly have separation anxiety and are desperately dependent on each other.
Maybe discuss some ground rules with your dp that enable mil to feel needed, but you don’t have her in your face.

Part of me though thinks she’s doing this to say ‘you’re not good enough for my baby boy’

ChubRubTheStruggleIsReal · 03/01/2019 21:42

Wow, leave. When you have kids she will be soooo much worse.

ffiffi8 · 03/01/2019 21:44

Then all I can say is.. it's his mother, he needs to set the boundaries sooner rather than later and respect you as his partner or you'll end up breaking up anyway!