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MIL - Am I overreacting?

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user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 20:58

Hey! I would like to seek advice on a delicate yet frustrating situation. I've seen a few posts about a similar thing, but I thought I would write my own experience as a cry for help. The MIL. (although me and OH are not married)

We've been together for 3 years, and moved into a rental house just over a year ago. This is his first time being away from his mum (he's 29) but not my first time. (Moved out when I was 20)

He = the BF and she = the MIL to make things easier to read.

He is her only child. Although he has siblings on his dads side. It's basically only ever been them two throughout the majority of his life. But she has completely wrapped him up in cotton wool, that he can't do anything. No DIY skills, no common sense with certain things, doesn't know how to clean etc. If he has a headache, she'll throw him some of her morphine tablets. If his neck hurts, she'll come out with things like ''Oh meningitis is going around'' She seems to hold some kind of manipulative spell over him as well. They are very close, and that I would never ever like to change.

Shes one of those people who appears disabled when in public, but swans around her house when no other people are around. (I dislike that in people) and she will use the ''IM DISABLED'' card. She is no more disabled than my own mother, who is quietly suffering from severe arthritus. Oh, in fact, I even mentioned my mum to her and her response was ''OH IVE GOT THAT'' which she doesn't! OK, I'm ranting onto irrelevent subjects now.

The issue is this.

This woman is the most overbearing person I have ever met. Anyone who has met her has said the same. (My family and a friend were helping us move, as was she) Just being around her for 5 minutes feels like forever.

After we moved in, he instantly gave her a key. Without asking me, although I don't mind for emergencies.

Anyways, a good thing is she never just shows up without a phone call first. But she does use her key and does show up when we are not here (After calling him to warn him first)

Even if we are in, she barges in. But again, we are expecting her.

She comes over every Friday after work, and Sunday morning. She does this because she collects his washing.

She brings him his toiletries, boxers, socks, new tops, shower gels, razers, the lot. When she is here, she will moan that the place is untidy and will clean despite me saying I'm doing it tomorrow. (Saturday usually)

He is very lazy, and I have absolutely no doubt that this is because of her. She used to clean his room before he moved out for goodness sakes!!

And she has cleaned this house when we haven't been here before. I got back from work one day and she was here. The first thing she came out with was ''I havent been upstairs, I wouldn't do that''
That in itself was suspicious. I keep the doors closed upstairs just incase.

We hosted a bbq for one of their family members, and she literally took over. I just went very inwards and quiet. I was so uncomfortable.

She also tells us to get a cleaner. She has mentioned this maybe 5 times. I tried to tell him to firmly tell her no but she will do it again.
She took our oven gloves away once to clean. But we never received them back because she deemed them too unclean! They were not in bad condition as they were only a year old! She's done this with few items.

There was an occasion where he told me she was coming over, but I was in the house on my own, needing to wash my hair. I was too scared to shower because she would have barged in as she didn't know I was there. Yeah she barged in. Good thing I delayed my shower.

I try to go to my mums anytime she's over now because I'm too tired to be dealing with it.

There was one Sunday, she was calling him at 9am (They had plans for him to go to hers for dinner at 12pm). We were both asleep due to a late night and ofc, ITS SUNDAY. He slept through the calls and she immediately called my phone. I muted it to sleep in. We got up at 9.30ish. He had 8 missed calls and I had 4!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like who does that!!!!!!!! She was just checking he was going to hers at 12, despite them discussing it the evening before.

And now, she's invited herself over this weekend to ''Clean my house''

My house isnt untidy in the slightest. It's just LIVED in. But I can't discuss this with him because he will take offense and just say ''she's just trying to help'' and OK, maybe I am being selfish here, I am unsure. But i dont feel comfortable with it, nor do I want her cleaning everytime shes here.

On new years eve, we had plans. Our friends were coming over and we would go to the local pub for 10ish. My mum and her partner was also at the pub as it's their local too. Well our plans didn't work out because his mum decided to go to the pub too. (She barely ever goes out) She called him and told him to get to the pub because she was surprising him by being there. So he did, whilst I waited for our friends because they were leaving the cars at mine. By the time they were all here, we walked straight to the pub. His mum left an hour later as she was tired.
Shortly after she left, my mum told me that she had been moaning because I was late??? My mum no longer has respect for her due to what she was saying. (It's rare for my mum to dislike someone) Bottom line is, she knew what our plans were and she expected us to drop them. We were due to go to the pub at 10ish and instead had to get there for 8 to accommodate her, discarding all of the games we had planned prior to the pub. How that makes me late, I do not know!!!

If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated. I want to get over this because for his sake, I cant have this turning into resentment. I used to adore this lady, but now she is under my skin and it's building up!

I can't talk to him about it because it will hurt him and he will instantly become defensive. I can't talk to her, because of the same thing. Maybe I just need to get over it? xx

OP posts:
Holidayshopping · 03/01/2019 21:45

No way would I be putting up with any of this.

Run for the hills and to not marry this man child.

oh4forkssake · 03/01/2019 21:46

You do not deserve this man. You deserve so much better. He’s not great if he can’t see the problem here.

ILiveForNachos · 03/01/2019 21:49

I am an only child, my husband is an only child of a single mum neither of our mothers act this way. It really isn’t normal. We are independent adults and my husband has really clear boundaries with his mother (although, given the chance, she’d love to be like yours!). My gut feel is that you will never get what you want from this relationship as you will always be the third wheel. As hard as it is, I’d be looking for someone new.

LettuceP · 03/01/2019 21:51

This is never going to change and will only get worse if you have children. Just end the relationship now before you have built a life together.

Also do you really want a man that is lazy and doesn't do any housework? Because you only have to look at some of the threads on here to realise that it's not a happy life.

AfterSchoolWorry · 03/01/2019 21:51

Advice?

Run like the fucking wind.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 03/01/2019 21:52

Run away fast. I married a man with a mother like this, had a child and then he died. Now this awful woman is in my life forever

rippedtoshreds · 03/01/2019 21:52

Oh god. Some of these things my mum does for me and my DH and I love it!
She comes to our house each week and takes 4 sets of dirty bedding away with her and brings it back washed and ironed!
She takes oven gloves/hand towels home to wash if she thinks they need it.
If she can see a bit of diy needing to be done she’ll send my dad down to do it.
If she knows we’ve gone out then she’ll text to say she’s popped in to let the dog out for a wee.
She doesn’t knock, just uses her key.
I suppose my point is, that as long as all parties are happy then it’s fine.
You obviously aren’t happy so you need to discuss the situation with your BF.
It’s a fine line really as my inlaws don’t do a single thing to help us out and that annoys me too. We had been waiting 8 weeks for a sofa to be delivered and they kept changing the day. The final day was when we were away for a few days and inlaws refused to come for an hour time slot to accept our sofa, whereas my parents help us with stuff like that on a weekly basis.

PickAChew · 03/01/2019 21:53

Oh dear. You have yourself a fully unfledged manchild. Escape while you can.

PersonaNonGarter · 03/01/2019 21:55

I can’t believe that you really think the problem is her. It is him! Seriously, dump him and tell him why.

SandAndSea · 03/01/2019 21:56

OP, sorry to be writing this but, if you can afford it, I would get him to move out or move out yourself.

Oldstyle · 03/01/2019 21:57

Goodness OP, she sounds positively deranged. Maybe you can somehow cope while there are no children around (though it really doesn't sound even remotely manageable) but just imagine the situation if you had a baby. You wouldn't have a moment's peace and would be endlessly criticised. If your BF is worth it I'd certainly explain that he needs to step up and make you and your relationship a priority. But if not you probably have to give up on him. Good luck.

Moussemoose · 03/01/2019 21:59

Run, run fast, don't look back.

Underworld345 · 03/01/2019 21:59

She comes round and picks up his washing? Dear god.

The cleaning stuff would really annoy me. It’s your place too and she is invading privacy and also undermining you. Have you told her straight to please stop?

I feel like there’s no going forward here unless you get your DP on side. Although he’s not going to want to do his own washing...

If he doesn’t respect your (very reasonable) wishes, then how can it really work? I agree it’ll be wayyyy worse if you end up with child.

thehamsters · 03/01/2019 22:07

I would talk very honestly to him about it all. He is likely to have a totally abnormal opinion of what a normal mother/son/girlfriend relationship looks like, so is unlikely to understand or appreciate just how totally dysfunctional this is.
If he isn't willing to RADICALLY change the situation with clear actions on his behalf, personally, I would get the hell out whilst you're only 30 and unmarried without kids. To deal with this, with children, would be utterly utterly hideous.

Wallywobbles · 03/01/2019 22:43

I'd be tempted to have a conversation in a group of your peers and ask them if it's normal so he can see it's not just you against his mum.

JohnnyKarate · 03/01/2019 22:45

RUN FORREST RUN! And never look back!

user1478811493 · 03/01/2019 22:48

Thank you all for your words.
It seems I have overlooked the main problem which is him.
He has told her not to do his washing before but she insisted. And believe me, she's very bossy. And loud. So loud!
Then he may take advantage of that and use it as an excuse to never grow up.
I'm going to have to try and have a talk with him.
If she came over, and didn't make any snide remarks and clean, I would be able to deal with it. But I am getting sick of the amount of toiletries she brings him.
Ha, I was also using a lidl branded washing up liquid as a one off. She came round the next week with a huge fairy liquid! I still had some bottles in he cupboard. Looking back, I'm wondering if she didn't want us using Lidl stuff or something

OP posts:
PanamaPattie · 03/01/2019 22:52

You will not win. It's far better to leave this relationship now before you have DC. MIL will take over any DC you have and bring them up with BF supporting her - not you. He will always choose his DM over you. He will never stand up to her because he thinks that her behaviour is normal family life.

Run. Run far away.

PrincessScarlett · 03/01/2019 23:06

Right. I'm going to be brutally honest. This is going to be your life for the next 20-30 years. You are going to have to become stronger than you ever managed possible to sustain your relationship with DP. And your sanity.

Every argument you have will be about his mother. He is a partner with her first and foremost and you will always be second best.

If you have children with this man your children will see their dad treating their mum second best.

You will tire of constantly being so strong whilst your DP continues to be weak and every time you are pushed aside for him to favour his mother a little bit of the love you have for him will die.

You may have to be the strong one who puts up with his bouts of depression due to the stress of having an overbearing mother.

I speak from experience. I have technically "won" in that DH has now seen the light with respect to his mother and his mother has finally realised I will not put up with her shit. But it has taken 20 long bitter years and I often wonder whether I should have just walked away in the beginning.

PersonaNonGarter · 03/01/2019 23:11

This is madness OP. Forget his mother, if he can’t see reason, leave him. You won’t change her but he can (and should) change for you.

But you are young! Seriously, don’t waste your time.

Villagelifer · 03/01/2019 23:32

He's almost 30, you live together and she comes to collect his washing?
I don't know where to start, I couldn't live like that, it's making me uncomfortable just to read about it all. I think you need to have a relationship with an adult, whether your OH will step up to that role I don't know, but I would have to talk to him.

StressedToTheMaxx · 03/01/2019 23:40

I was in this situation.
I stayed 5 years later was have a ds and have very little contact with mil- 4 times a year for dp and dc. I am nd because of everything she has done.
Her behaviour and dps support of her behaviour pushed us to breaking point. I stay because of ours son and we are a most back on track.
I can honestly say had I been forewarned of what would happen, I would have left straight away.
It's a toxic situation for all. And it just gets worse and more intence once children are brought into the situation.
My advice run. Sorry Flowers

CrazyOldBagLady · 03/01/2019 23:45

She can't invite herself over to clean your house, tell her that she will not be doing that. If she wants to treat your house like an extension of her own, she needs to start paying you rent!

Seriously though, first step, tell her to give you the key back. Then while you are enjoying the peace, have a good think about whether you want to spend the rest of your days living with this manchild and having his mother collect the washing and buy toiletries for your offspring.

EL2019 · 03/01/2019 23:46

I think this may be appropriate

MIL - Am I overreacting?
StressedToTheMaxx · 03/01/2019 23:49

Also if you and dp start making changes to be independent, prepair for her illnesses to become life threatening and high drama tantrums from her.
It is horrendous to live through it.
Good luck