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My husband has left me out the blue

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Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 07:09

Hi, I’ve only been married for 2 years and my husband worshipped the ground I walked on, all my family and friends could not believe how lucky I was that he doted on me, he was constantly telling me I was his best friend and soulmate, 4 weeks ago he said he had fallen out of love with me and he was leaving, that 10 min conversation was how he chose to end our marriage, he has completely cut me out his life, he works in London Monday to Friday and he said he could not get the home/work balance right anymore, I’m distraught

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gladheart · 20/12/2018 08:35

That's a very good post @AFistfulofDolores1

BIWI · 20/12/2018 08:39

Does this ring any bells, @Nikjayne? This is a pice from healthyplace.com about falling love with a sociopath:

Can Sociopaths Love or Even Fall in Love?

TANYA J. PETERSON
Can sociopaths love? Are you kidding? They love themselves enormously! So imagine being in love with a sociopath. Read and see what that’s like.

Can sociopaths love? Can sociopaths fall in love? If you truly know and understand the sociopath, then you know these questions are almost laughable.

Sociopaths often act like they are in love. To the outside world, it looks like they love. Given that a definition of a sociopath is a person who lacks empathy and has antisocial personality disorder, apart from others and separate from the rules and norms of society, it's odd that someone like this can look like they're truly in love. Sociopaths are nothing if not confusing, partly because sociopathic traits and characteristics contradict each other at times. Upon closer examination, though, it makes perfect sense to ask, "Can a sociopath fall in love?"

Can Sociopaths Love?

If we manipulate the definition of love the way sociopaths manipulate people, then sure, sociopaths can love. To truly make this claim, though, we have to give love a definition that suits us in this moment. Don't worry, we can act like a sociopath and redefine it to our liking anytime we so desire.

When love is a tool to be used to trap and manipulate someone, sociopaths can love.

When love is said easily by the lips but not felt by the heart, sociopaths can love.

When love is a feeling of fascination or power rather than an emotion, sociopaths can love.

When love is a shallow lie told for personal gain rather than an expression of connection, sociopaths can love.

When love is synonymous with sex and sex is nothing other than momentary and meaningless physical pleasure, then sociopaths can love.

When love is a word rather than a feeling, sociopaths can love.

When love involves pretending, playing a role to gain something for yourself, then sociopaths can love.

To a sociopath, true love is a love of

him/herself
power
playing and winning his/her version of the game of life.

A sociopath can put on a great show and act in loving ways. He can pretend to love and to care, and you have no idea that he's constantly assessing which of your buttons to push and when to push them. She can gush and express her love and devotion. But truly, can sociopaths love?

When love is a deep and complex emotion, a feeling of fondness, tenderness, bonding, and connection between human beings, no, a sociopath cannot love.

What is Loving a Sociopath Like?

The sociopath is a social predator who charms his way into people's lives. He slithers his way in because he has a greater purpose; he senses the opportunity for personal gain. Thus begins his game. To win trust and ensure naïveté, he begins courtship. He pretends to love because he wants love in return. He cares nothing for the feelings of love but instead wants love as a manipulative tool.

The best way to receive love is to give love, and the sociopath sets out to give and receive. Loving a sociopath has been described as wonderful and exhilarating (Buttafuoco, 2009). Because a sociopath shapes her persona to match that of her prey of the moment, loving a sociopath can feel like finding a soulmate. She is a perfect fit in every way. (Look at these famous sociopaths.)

To be in love with a sociopath can be full of laughter and fun, so much so that ignoring the odd personality traits that pop up from time to time becomes second nature. Says Mary Jo Buttafuoco (2009), "...I stuck it out during the bad times, because the good times were fantastic."

Eventually, the honeymoon comes to an end. The sociopath gets whatever he was after in the first place, and then he rapidly becomes bored. Constantly needing thrills and stimulation, he drops the charade and moves on. This can happen suddenly, leaving the victim, who thought she/he was in love, shocked, hurt, and confused.

It is absolutely possible to be in love with a sociopath. Can a sociopath love back? Yes, but only by his own definition of love, a manipulative, uncaring, unemotional kind of love

BIWI · 20/12/2018 08:41

I googled this piece because I have a friend who experienced something very similar to you, and he ticks absolutely all of those boxes. Apologies if your situation is different.

ravenmum · 20/12/2018 08:46

Just after we got married he agreed to try for a baby, when I though I was pregnant he wanted me to wait and do the test together as he was excited, then when it was positive he said he never wanted another child and told me I had to have an abortion, I never really got over it so blame myself for that
He treated you dreadfully. You can blame only him for that.

squishee · 20/12/2018 08:59

Wow OP, the more you post the more dispicable he sounds. You've dodged a bullet.
Onwards and upwards...

missbee90 · 20/12/2018 09:57

Didn’t want to read and run, just wanted to tell you that you’re not alone.

5 months my STBX husband did the same, together 11 years and married a year (I’m 28, he’s 29) Much like you, we were intimate the day before he left .. he even messaged me the morning he broke up with me telling me how much he loved me .. then got in bed with me that evening and told me he didn’t think he loved me anymore and had been “fighting it” in his head for months. I’ve now filed for divorce and I’m buying him out the marital home.

I can fully relate to the pain you’re experiencing and if I can give you any advice at all it’s too not try and work our what’s going on in someone else’s head, you’ll make yourself ill. I spent months doing this and have finally just accepted that he isn’t the person I thought he was or the person I married, he genuinely had a personality transplant, it really is bizarre.

Sending you love and hugs, surround yourself with friends and family and try and limit contact .. it really is the only thing that helps you heal xx

cakecakecheese · 20/12/2018 10:08

I am so sorry but he is not the man you thought he was. There's definitely something not right there, whether it be a personality disorder or just a very skewed way of approaching relationships, and although it might not seem like it now you are going to be much better off without him.

Orange6904 · 20/12/2018 12:07

When did the low mood he speaks of start? I was accused of this but I became like that after he became distant and strange and couldn't figure out what was up (had enough on my plate recovering from surgery to pick apart his behaviour), turns out he was chasing after a teenager for months.

I'm really sorry, it's really hard when it's out of the blue. Flowers

Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 12:43

Hi, he does sound like a sociopath, he had two kids from a previous relationship but he never wanted to get married apparantley till he met me, I feel like he even just uses his kids as a trophy, it’s hard for me to understand how one minute he can be so loving to no contact and being cruel, I do suffer from low self esteem so I blame myself, and I used to ask him not to drink as much during the week, as he was at the pub every night in London and coming home on a Friday hungover and tired, maybe I am just not accepting the fact that he just fell out of love with me or never truly loved me in the beginning, he said he couldn’t make it work for himself anymore

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userxx · 20/12/2018 13:03

He told you he loved you after the first date!!!! WTF, why didn't you sense he was a wrong-un?

Luxembourgmama · 20/12/2018 13:05

The fact that you said he was "so against" cheating reminded me of my ex who constantly went on about how cheating was so bad but was apparently constantly cheating on me. My DH doesn't talk about cheating at all its not on our radar. So i think he has met someone else sorry.

cakecakecheese · 20/12/2018 13:39

It's not unreasonable to expect someone to not be at the pub every night. You really need to stop blaming yourself, there's nothing you could have done.

OopsInamechangedagain · 20/12/2018 13:50

How often did you/he see his kids? Are they old enough for you to stay in contact with them if you want?

Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 14:03

Just the week before he left he was telling my mam he would have his day with my first husband who treated me so badly!! It took my 8 years to trust again after the 1st divorce now he cares so little about me it’s like I don’t exist, he used to tell me I was his world constantly

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cakecakecheese · 20/12/2018 15:08

Thing is though guys like him are drawn to vulnerable women, which you were due to a bad first marriage, he gets to swoop in and be the romantic hero, hence the early declarations of love etc and then once the novelty wears off and reality kicks in such as having to be a responsible parent, he's off...

jessstan2 · 20/12/2018 15:20

I am so very sad for you. He is awful! Sociopath is an apt description for that man.

Make sure you get your finances in order and enjoy being free again.
It hurts though Flowers.

Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 15:34

I understand the thing about him not liking reality but he was so loving and promised me to always be there for me yet he has turned his feelings off overnight, it’s like I don’t know who I was married too and can’t process that

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carrotflinger · 20/12/2018 15:36

Ah no OP. That's awful.
There's quite a few of us on Mumsnet going through similar at the moment.
A few of us have been supporting each other on this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3439528-being-replaced
Maybe have a look at this.
I felt terribly alone when my twat of an ex walked out at the beginning of November. Then I realized there are an awful lot of people suffering the same thing.

missbee90 · 20/12/2018 15:37

@Nikjayne - This is exactly what I’m struggling with too. The person I knew and loved for 11 years has vanished and turned in to a cold stranger. I wish I had the answers for us both xx

carrotflinger · 20/12/2018 16:02

@Nikjayne - yup I'm struggling with this too. Who was this person I was with for 5 years? Was everything a lie and he never really loved me? Or did he love me and then it just went wrong at the end?
Really really hard.

Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 18:03

I can’t stop beating myself up which is making me poorly, I wonder if I will ever hear from him again

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BackInTheRoom · 20/12/2018 18:28

OP. Trust me 💯 % when I say ITS NOT YOU, ITS HIM! He played a role, a part. He probably has a personality disorder and this is why you're struggling with it. Why you can't get your head around it. Because it doesn't make sense! This is your first clue! He was probably 'Lovebombing' you and because of your past, you fell for it. Please don't feel bad because you simply trusted and believed he was who he said he was. So for instance, I completely get how this shit went down and how you're now scratching your head for answers. None of it will make sense to NORMAL people OP. Normal.

WingingItStill · 20/12/2018 18:41

I have had a very similar experience this year with my STBXH. I'm half way between thinking he's a narcissist and a sociopath - he's definitely one or the other.

I haven't blamed myself for the breakdown of the relationship but I've blamed myself for ever getting involved with him and now burdening my DD with him as a Dad who will always be in her life.

Unfortunately, he's moved on very quickly to his next victim and all I can do is sit back and watch the car wreck happen again, I feel very sorry for her and so glad I managed to get out when I did.

Stay strong OP, you life will be so much better without him.

Nikjayne · 20/12/2018 20:57

I obviously can’t reply to everyone individually, but reading all your supportive comments has helped, he has now said that he has met someone but didn’t leave me for them, he left cause of the reasons he gave me, I don’t believe him

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Loka123 · 20/12/2018 21:10

"he swears he hasn’t left me for someone else" - that's what you wrote this morning OP.

Within less than a day, you're now saying he's finally admitted to having met someone else.

Clearly this guy is psycho. Who's gonna believe anything that comes from his mouth after him swearing he was being truthful with something he now confesses was a lie..

No doubt he'll do the same thing to his next victim - lovebomb, devalue and discard.

To be honest, I'd be very shocked if a cheater ever did admit to cheating or leaving current partner for the new one.

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