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Husband keeps going AWOL

166 replies

Luckdragon11 · 19/11/2018 06:24

So my husband of 5.5 years has a tendency to go AWOL after a row and not just hours, he will hole himself up in a hotel for days, spending hundreds of pounds. He refuses to tell me where he is if there is any contact but for the most in this time he will block me and he will refuse to speak with me. We have a 1 year old and 4 year old together and my 12 year old son also lives with us. He doesn’t say goodbye to the children and will not be contactable.

He is currently in a hotel for the 3rd night and I’m a complete mess. Within this time he has been liking my ex best mate’s Facebook photos that we fell out with as he had inappropriate feelings for one of them which he denied to them all but admitted it to me, it was obvious to me. He told them all I was making it up and they believed him and they all broke friends with me and believed he was a victim and justified him going to hotels, which was to get away from me. He was truly vile to me behind close doors but so lovely to them they couldn’t believe it and because I was a wreck they just thought I was crazy. He has since admitted he lied to them and admitted his feelings for my ex best mate, and they apparently feel bad but they still don’t want the friendship with me, don’t blame them really as with me comes my marital problems. We’ve since realised they weren’t good for our marriage anyway as too immature with my husbands issues and became enablers. Also it’s a bit of a spanner in the works my husband fancying one of them who was my bridesmaid and his ex best mates wife. So in the end we all mutually parted ways. I grieved for several years but more recently I’ve been feeling stronger and making new friends. My husband is aware I’ve moved on but now he’s saying he misses them. So since he’s been at the hotel he’s liking all their photos out the blue including photos of my old best mate he fancied. Gutted. I’ve text him to say it’s over but he knows as well as I do I won’t stick to it. He doesn’t care anyway, he’s so empowered by my last few days of desperate calling and texting he just doesn’t care.

I should add he has a major wandering eye which he is in therapy for, problem stems from his mum abandoning him and leaving him on his own in the house at age 2 and never returning. He was fostered for most his growing up years to return to his dad who had remarried a woman with a child’s mental age who used to abuse my husband and lock him out the house all the time. As a result he developed addictions which reared their ugly head very early in the marriage. He constantly seeks women’s attention and wants to get eye contact with women everywhere we go. He has promised me he has never been unfaithful but he can’t stop the lusting behaviour. He is in weekly sessions with a sex addiction therapist as he has a problem with porn and used to be a huge player, having many sexual partners. He is currently having EMDR. I have stayed with him because I have understanding of where it has stemmed from and putting a lot of hope in to his therapy. Although his behaviour is seriously damaging my mental health and I have myself had a course of EMDR with his therapist who said I have complex PTSD where I keep getting triggered all the time, I am in constant hyper vigilant mode. What I really can’t bear other than his lusting after other women is him going AWOL, I feel like I have a nervous breakdown every time he does it.

Most people will say leave but I don’t feel strong enough to. I think I would prefer first to try a different tact because I’ve always been so desperate for him to come home I just tolerate it. But the resentments seep in to the marriage which then pushes him away again. Any advice appreciated on how to act and behave if and when he decides to return. Should I let him think it’s over this time? How do I set boundaries when he has never kept to them when I clearly lay them out? The only consequence he normal gets is a shouty, sweary angry wife, not ideal I know (kept away from the children for the most though).

Each time he leaves he is the victim and he has gone from owning it and taking accountability to it all being minimised and now in his head he is fully justified in leaving because he is angry at me for being angry at him over a betrayal, acting out with women, gambling or whatever the initial event was. He very quickly forgets the initial event and he developes zero tolerance of my critisism, hurt, anger, pain or trauma.

Really stuck in a horrible cycle and need advice on what to do.

OP posts:
poglets · 19/11/2018 13:40

I also stopped somewhere after paragraph 2. You said you're not strong enough to leave him but the way this is going you either need to suck it up or leave.

At least if you tell him you want a divorce you may shake him up. What's the alternative? He has you right where he wants you.

crappyday2018 · 19/11/2018 13:46

You keep making excuses for this man. His childhood and his 'fall from grace'. None of actually matters. He treats you like something he has stepped in.
Please leave him for your children's sake for god sakes.

MaybeDoctor · 19/11/2018 14:03

You clearly feel a lot of loyalty/compassion for him.

The only solution I can think of is to remain in a relationship (if that’s what you want) but live separately so that your children aren’t affected.

BumbleBeee69 · 19/11/2018 14:05

OP you would be much better off with your kids alone, that this life draining scum bag.

Tell us honestly, what does he BRING to the relationship, what lovely things does he do for you and the children, what pressures does he take from your shoulders, what gestures does he share to make you smile ?

please Flowers

Notwiththeseknees · 19/11/2018 14:12

Stop trying to minimise his behaviour.
Stop trying to understand his behaviour.
Stop trying to excuse his behaviour.
Just. Stop.
You didn't cause this. You cannot change this. You cannot live like this.

Visit your doctors, if you think that will help. Take a big breath. Begin again.

crispinquent · 19/11/2018 14:13

This is where i am at. I almost need to ask for a divorce

crispinquent · 19/11/2018 14:14

We've been on airlplanes twice a year to his family and now that i live near his mother I want a fucking break from this pathetic mummy's boy

Adora10 · 19/11/2018 14:17

I can't compute how a grown adult walks out on his own children without a back ward glance and leaves them to feel it's probably their fault; what the fuck is he doing on his Hotel breaks, he's disgusting, you need to wise up, at least protect your innocent children from him damaging them any more.

crispinquent · 19/11/2018 14:21

My husband had a mother who did same. Now shes trying to make up for it with her grandkids. But the scars r still there. And im feeling cold toward him more than ever

AttilaTheMeerkat · 19/11/2018 14:22

"So maybe I am thinking, if I just hold on there is a chance he will change just like dad did".

And he won't. Your H is really who he is, he won't change. DO not waste your whole life on this man like your mother did with her husband.

We learn about relationships first and foremost from our parents, they taught you a hell of a lot of damaging lessons.

ohfourfoxache · 19/11/2018 14:28

When someone tells you who they are, listen.

He is not going to change. So the question is, are you going to protect your dc from his abuse?

TimeToRevolutionize · 19/11/2018 15:05

tell him not to bother coming back

MrsJane · 19/11/2018 15:33

OP, how are you doing?

BumbleeBeeMe · 19/11/2018 16:00

Get rid.

Luckdragon11 · 19/11/2018 16:19

I’m in a bit of a state, these messages are really hitting home and quite difficult to digest. I’ve still had no contact and I know you will all think good but it’s so much to take in. Thank you for everybody’s input, it puts things in to perspective for me. Ive contacted a couple of therapists for some more work on my self so that’s a start

OP posts:
ListenToTheWords · 19/11/2018 16:21

This man has absolutely no respect/love/care for you at all. He has pushed the boundaries of bad behaviour until he can treat you like dirt and you still beg and take him back. What are your children learning by watching and experiencing this tumultuous relationship? Stop making excuses for his piggish behaviour - he wants to behave like this, it is a choice.

Really, gather up your self respect and tell him it is over. For yourself and your innocent children.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 19/11/2018 16:24

Ive contacted a couple of therapists for some more work on my self so that’s a start

That's a really healthy thing to do, @Luckdragon11

Sorry, it must be quiet difficult to have a bunch of strangers shouting 'leave the bastard'!! But sometimes a bit of outside perspective can really help. I think you've been really brave and hope the counselling helps you start to take some control back. Wishing you all the best.

OutragedEtc · 19/11/2018 16:30

So he’s acting this way because of how his parents behaved.

You’re acting this way because of how your parents behaved.

What do you think might be in store for your children?

Lifeisabeach09 · 19/11/2018 16:39

If you are going to stay with him, you need to give the fucker a taste of his own medicine.
When he comes back, leave and book a hotel for a couple of days. Don't take the kids-he is their father, he is responsible for them also.

You are being completely taken for granted by this prick. Grow a backbone.

Creamontop · 19/11/2018 16:40

That's a great first step Luckdragon11. I would urge you to keep a diary though. It really helped me when I was going through a similar thing (albeit not quite so bad). I would carry on writing until I had worked through my feelings. I had to keep on re-reading what I had written just so it would sink in. As I'm sure you're aware, you need to protect your children from his behaviour and do the right thing by them, even though you may not want to do it for yourself. I don't mean to be patronising but I know how easy it to lose yourself in all the chaos, then before you know you're a couple more years down the line.

Adora10 · 19/11/2018 16:41

I seriously wouldn't be giving a toss about him, you know this is his pattern, he will be back, it's what he does; he's probably concentrating on other women while you're stuck at home with the kids worrying about him, you seriously have to give this wanker up OP.

CantWaitToRetire · 19/11/2018 16:42

Hi OP. You say your dad 'changed' but you also say this only came on his death bed - so when he was contemplating the live he had lived and it was too late to actually do anything to rectify his behaviour. Why do you then think your DH will change of his own free will anytime soon? I feel very sad for your children, especially your 12yo son who is witnessing this behaviour and understanding a lot more than you give him credit for. Don't let him learn that this is an acceptable way for a man to treat a woman. For your children's sake (and mental health and future relationships) you need to find the courage to get out of this toxic relationship. You deserve so much more, and so do your kids.

I've never said this before, so here's my first.....LTB!!!

mamaslatts · 19/11/2018 16:53

I don't think your dad 'changed' at all. I think his second wife fucked off and he needed someone to care for him when he was dying. I think the grand turn around was just another selfish act.

As far as your husband is concerned I cannot see any way that he is ever going to be anywhere near the man you and your children deserve. Your son is about to enter the teenage years and I can see this behaviour causing him to be a very angry and resentful young man. I would also be very surprised if he has never cheated - going to hotels and spending hundreds of pounds and messaging other women? Are you allowed other friends he doesn't hit on or drive away?

Even if you don't leave now, accepting you need to at some point is a good step then you need to ask for help to do it.

LellyMcKelly · 19/11/2018 18:45

The word ‘narcissist’ is bandied about far too much, but he certainly has many of the symptoms - the ignoring, the two-facedness, the need for admiration and approval, the early abandonment and lack of love in childhood, the need for drama they’re at the centre of, the need for control, his need to humiliate you...it goes on and on. He isn’t going to get better, he’s going to get worse.

Nithead · 19/11/2018 19:10

Sorry OP. I can see how much drive you have to make this work. But he doesn't care.

Ask yourself if you would like your children in a relationship like this? This is what they are seeing. This is normal to them