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Ultimatums and alcohol

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Microbeans · 07/11/2018 20:43

I’m hoping you wise lovelies can help give me some perspective as I don’t know what to do.

Married 10yrs but together much longer with DD. DP has always been an excessive drinker - looking back i of course wish I’d bailed much earlier.

He is an alcoholic but would never admit it. Key drinking points

  • he is a secretive drinker and always minimises. This has improved over the years but used to find stashes etc in the house. He still lies about it but doesnt hide as much.
  • doesn’t drink to socialise but to escape or destress so it’s fast and over soon
  • rarely has one drink and stops but tends to only drink 2-3 days per week and never in the morning or afternoon
  • he has a tendency to drink spirits and would think nothing of buying a small bottle of spirit and drinking it on his commute home and claiming he stopped for just a glass of wine.
  • he’s let me down time and time again over the years in terms of not arriving home when he says he will etc
  • never a violent drunk but obnoxious all the same
  • to cope i now tend to remove myself and just go to bed when he drinks
  • I get irrational rage when the snoring hits jet engine level as a result of said drinking

I regularly think about putting an end to our marriage - earlier on in the relationship I thought it would improve as he got older and more mature (it has in many ways) but the issue is still there.

He has said he will quit if I ask him but I havent had the courage to ask him yet. I’ve always worried about an ultimatum due to the huge risk he doesn’t follow though and so I’ve needed to be ready to follow through. There is also the issue of whether i would trust him to be sticking to it or hiding it more.

When I weight up a single instance I can easily justify staying for Dd who rarely/never sees any of this. For DD I make the decision to keep the family together.

I also have the massive risk that he goes down hill in the divorce scenario and drinks much more. The guilt would be immense and how would I explain this to DD. I would also then have to trust him be responsible for DD when she visited him and I’m not sure I would.

Right now under the same roof I can turn off the oven when he’s crashed and left it on and can be sure DD is safe. She has a dad and I just hold it all together.

Please can you help me work out what to do? Do I stay in this marriage and focus on the positives (there are some). Or do I give an ultimatum and possible spin us into destruction?

OP posts:
another20 · 20/11/2018 18:44

Well done OP - you are making great strides.

When I went I was expecting a simple, magic 10 point plan to take away to fix it - I probably thought I had to take notes! But that was the co-dep in me - always busy, always sorting.

In the end it was a sort of meditation - just to sit still for an hour a week to contemplate my situation and listen to others.

another20 · 29/11/2018 15:01

Microbeans how are you doing?

Reaa · 05/12/2018 14:06

I just wanted to come back to this thread and say, I have been attending Al anon meetings and I feel a lot better just knowing others are going through or have gone through the same as me, its a relief to know I'm not alone and my feelings are not wrong/horrible and I know I don't have to leave until I'm stronger or ready to do so.

It's about acceptance and learning to find your own self again, for me, I have lost myself, myself revolved around what is he going to be doing, is he going to be drinking, is he already drunk, how much has he drunk and worrying about him all the time.

I am going to find me again and I will have a life for me, that does not revolve around his drinking.

another20 · 05/12/2018 14:35

Wow. What a powerful post OP, and what an amazing thing you are doing for your DD, yourself and ultimately your DH (whatever you decide to do). It must be such a relief to not have to hold and internalise it anymore. You should be very proud for taking this step - I hope it brings you some comfort and clarity.

pointythings · 05/12/2018 17:01

Well done, microbeans. The first step is always the hardest and the kind of support you can get from these specialist groups is invaluable - as you now know.

Keep on working towards the life you deserve. It's really worth it once you are out on the other side. Flowers

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/12/2018 17:04

Good on you Reaa. You keep on working towards a better future for you here.

disneyspendingmoney · 05/12/2018 20:25

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