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did your marriage begin life as an affair?

228 replies

thinkingandsad · 17/06/2007 22:25

Yes of course I have changed my name for this.

That's it really. Were you married to someone else when you met your current partner and were they married too?

Has it worked out and would you do it again?

How did you go through the process of getting together and breaking up your families?

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TrueBlue · 22/06/2007 20:49

Hello hurtwife - I don't think you are a soft touch at all, and I am sure most people would not think that. I actually think it shows great strength and a lot of 'balls' to try and move things on after your dh had an affair... And I know it is easier said than done but you should not worry about what the ow thinks about you or the lies she's been fed... Just focus your energy on you and dh as the worrying about the rest is just a waste of time...

I think all of us know it takes 2 people to make a marriage, and I am quite philosophical about the things my partner tells me about his wife... I don't think she's a bad person at all, and nobody is going to be at their best when confronted with the fact that your husband is on the brink of leaving you and you suspect he's having an affair... I know that I will never know exactly what she was really like, or what their relationship was really like as I will only hear his side of the story.... And I have got quite obsessive at times about what exactly has gone on between the 2 of them, but I think it's something I just have to learn to let go of, as it's a pointless exercise...

maximummummy · 22/06/2007 21:15

just read the whole thread and these words stood out to me

"YOU ONLY GET ONE LIFE "

go with your gut feeling if your relationship with your kids dad is bad then you should leave - staying will just prolong the agony.Surely it's best that our kids know their parents as happy fulfilled adults not unhappy and staying for the sake of appearences.

i'd also take the new relationship slowly so as not to confuse the children.

GOODLUCK

TrueBlue · 22/06/2007 21:26

I hope you are ok 'thinkingandsad'... you really aren't the only one in this situation...

This is a good book to read when you are trying to make up your mind whether your relationship is 'too good to leave or too bad to stay'...

www.amazon.com/Good-Leave-Stay-Step-Step/dp/0452275350

Bouquetsofdynomite · 23/06/2007 10:59

Trueblue, if you and your DH are agreed the marriage is over, surely the sooner you let him know you've met someone else the better? Let him get used to the inevitable bad feelings before the move happens when the kids will be most upset - deal with one emotional nightmare at a time. He is no doubt also worrying unnecessarily about how you will cope, not knowing you will have ample support (not talking financial support here).
I think in your case as you are talking about ending the marriage, telling him wouldn't be about relieving your guilt, it's about both of you having a chance to move on emotionally before moving irl.

TrueBlue · 24/06/2007 20:05

Hello Bouquets... thanks for the advice. I think you are right and need to tell my husband now I have met someone else, as he will indeed be worried about how I will cope. I will do so soon, but the last couple of months have been very emotional, just in terms of telling all the family we were splitting up and we had to focus on sorting out the future, in terms of where we will live, moving out etc. Adding the fact that I had met someone new, just felt like just one too many things to add to the heap of shit for everybody and my husband to handle... so I haven't done it so far... But will do soon... as you are right, it will allow him to move on emotionally too as part of me suspects he probably still has some hope that we might get back together...

So thanks for the post. Will sort it out soon.

Tanee58 · 25/06/2007 13:35

Hurtwife, I think you are very strong - and really hope you and h will be able to look back on this as having been a positive 'blip' in your old age.

Trueblue, good luck - and as MaxiMum said, take the new relationship slowly and give your kids plenty of reassurance even when they are most angry and uncommunicative - if possible, keep them with you - I found that worked best with dd, giving her time to realise, most importantly, that just because I had a new relationship, that didn't mean that I loved her the less - she admitted recently that it was her greatest fear at the time, and that now, she realises that she is still and always will be the most important person in my life. It also helps to keep letting the children know that daddy isn't a bad person - but just that he and you couldn't be happy together any more.

thinkingandsad · 18/12/2008 17:49

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immortalbeloved · 18/12/2008 20:33

yes we were both married, the affair part didn't last long though, we both fell desperately in love but the cheating part was much harder than we imagined, we left our spouses after a few months to be together

Do I regret the hurt we caused? Yes. But in all honesty I wouldn't change the outcome we have been together a long time now and are still so in love and so happy

My children are fine too and very happy,though they were little more than babies when it happened I can imagine it being much harder on older children

yama · 18/12/2008 20:43

Just read whole thread before I realised it was a year and a half old!

So, what happened Thingandsad?

thinkingandsad · 18/12/2008 23:03

Nothing has changed.
I love OM but don't want to wreck my family

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thinkingandsad · 18/12/2008 23:04

immortalbeloved how did your spouses react?

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snoringnightmare · 19/12/2008 08:49

thinkingandsad, are you still seeing the om?

This is an awfully long time to carry on being so unhappy.

immortalbeloved · 19/12/2008 08:53

Well as you can imagine there was a lot of hurt caused, my husband in particular was devastated, he went from angry to sad very often. We tried to minimise the damage which sounds ridiculous really but for example I left my husband in the family home and my now dh continued to pay all of his ex's bills etc we let them rant at us and did nothing but apologise we knew it was all our doing and didn't try to deflect the blame

It was a hard hard time but everyone came through it, as I said the children were unscathed but they were very young, my now dh and I are happier than even we could have imagined, our ex's have moved on and are happy, my exh has remarried and we are actually pretty good friends now

I'm so sorry your still in a situation where your unhappy, I'm another one who thinks life is too short, i can understand you not wanting to break up the family and hurt your dh but you deserve to be happy too

I wish you luck whatever you decide to do

Anna8888 · 19/12/2008 08:53

You are doing an awful lot of damage to your family by having an affair. A lot more, IMO, than if you came out in the open, divorced, and set up a new, functional relationship.

It is not divorce that wrecks families but relationship breakdown.

crazyloon1 · 19/12/2008 08:56

I am a bit worried that if you've been together this long and not made the break, (and forgive me for saying this) there is a reason you're not doing it, maybe?

I'll give an example - I naively loved someone who was married, it was a very very sad time as we felt so torn and it hurt so much, but as time went on I think he didn't want to leave her, he just liked (or needed, really) the pain, in a strange kind of way. He was playing out a story and we all had a part. He never did end up with me.

Now I am in love again with a man in a relationship (I think he still is anyway) and he seems to like me too, it's been a few years - but I sure as hell won't be going out with him till he is available and tbh I would have little respect for him if he wanted to do otherwise. He can blooming well choose me or choose her.

Is your OM married too?

I do feel so sorry for you x

thinkingandsad · 19/12/2008 18:34

OM is married.

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ChristmasDisco · 19/12/2008 18:51

DH and I were married to other people. One night we were out on a works do and it was like someone flicked a switch and that was it (we'd worked together for 2 yrs and there had been now suggestion of anything between us). We kissed, there was nothing sexual. We left our other halves (he had a DC) and that was it. We had DD1, got married, had DD2. We've been together just short of 7 yrs. DSS is a regular part of our lives and we see him every week. Both our exes are married and DSS has other brothers and sisters living with him.

thinkingandsad · 19/12/2008 19:38

christmas disco how did your other halves take it?
was there any violence?

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ChristmasDisco · 19/12/2008 20:13

my ex was very hurt. I told him that I had fallen in love with someone else, but that I didn't know what I wanted. He threw me out there and then and didn't try and keep me (not that that matters). DH's ex though was obviously a different story. She quite understandably went crackers, rang my parents, swore a lot and taught my elderly parents a brand new vocabulary, spread rumours about other affairs i'd had (I hadn't) and threatened to kill me when we moved in together. I never responded, I had no right to really. I let her vent her anger. 7 yrs down the line, we don't talk to each other unless we happen to speak by phone (which is rare) we are polite, and we rarely see each other.

ChristmasDisco · 19/12/2008 20:15

OMG. I too didn't realise thread was that old. You are still in this relationship. Gosh that must be hard on you I feel.

Nighbynight · 19/12/2008 21:07

HELL no. That has got to be the worst possible reference for any future spouse, that they're willing to cheat on their current partner.

thinkingandsad · 19/12/2008 21:57

christmasdisco how did your dh deal with leaving his son behind?

Did you have any doubts?

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hf128219 · 19/12/2008 22:03

A dear friend of mine started an affair 6 years ago with a married man with a young child.

They are now engaged to be married. I'm not saying I endorse it but these things happen and sometimes for the better.

ChristmasDisco · 20/12/2008 10:56

I had no doubts no.

DH struggled for around 3 months, he'd left but things weren't hunky dorey by any stretch of the imagination. He knew he wanted to be with me but struggled with leaving his son behind. He saw him about 3 times a week and eventually things settled down and we moved in together properly. His son hadn't reached 2 so was very young, he's nearly 9 now and we see him once per week, his son had decided to cut down the amount of time we saw him when he was about 5, it was getting too much for him coming to see us after school twice per week then again at weekends. DH was fine with this.

NKfffffffffd4a3c39X11e93d97a05 · 01/01/2009 20:59

wow, I find myself understanding alot of what people have had to say here.
I have never posted here before but am wrecked with anguish right now over a similar situation.
I am single mum with 2 children. Seeing a married man for roughly a year and a half. I knew he was married when we met and to be honest was pleased that this would not get too serious.
It did.
His wife found out last Christmas and he ended it, lasted roughly two months.
We have been open in so much as he said he would never leave his wife and that this would end at some point. We talked about it.
I have always considered myself single and never turned down a date. This Christmas I did become involved with someone else. It was not what i wanted, it was what i needed to do.
November saw a very painful time for me losing two members of my family, re-uniting with others after many many years (which didn't go well) and realising just how alone I was. Not lonely, but so very alone.
This man was my rock, day and night, half a world apart. There were times when i cried till i fell asleep on the phone and he just listened.
Alot of thinking while away and I decided I was ready for a proper relationship, and all it involved. NOt something i ever in a million years thought would happen. I shared all of this with him, he said he understood and however much he didn't want to encourage me into another relationship he thought I should try to find what i really wanted.

It took 3 years to get my divorce, it was my decision, it was hell.

I do not regret it. I look at my children and I know that whatever happens, allowing them to grow up in the home they were in was wrong wrong wrong and that I would be unable to live with myself knowing the damage it would have caused them.
That is what keeps me going.

Back to the subject at hand, he had been in a relationship for 20 years, married around the time we met (roughly a year and a half).
He has no children, not that it is going to make it any easier.
I don't know what is going to happen, he wants to talk, the feeling is all good. He has poured his heart out via text over Christmas. It has been lonely and painful for both of us.
I never expected this and I'm scared to death. the fear is immense. Fear of hurt for my children and for me.
I don't think either of us realised just how much we had become a part of each others lives.
Your posts here helped immensely and I wish to thank all of you.

I guess my biggest fear is that after everything else I don't have the energy emotionally to do this or to survive another break up.....
and I am painfully aware of the damage we may cause.
What happens next, I don't know. What it is he needs to say, I guess I will find out in a day or two.

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