Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Am I in an emotionally abusive relationship? I want to leave but he won’t accept it

155 replies

lulu5 · 15/09/2018 12:13

This is my first time posting... I really need some advice. It’s quite a long story so you might want to make a cup of tea first!
Ok here goes...
I have been with my husband for 17 years and married for 14. We have 2 wonderful children 10 and 6. We have had our ups and downs, it hasn’t been easy... but I have always felt like I have held the family together by putting up with his moods and moaning. My parents even said it seemed to come every 6 weeks... he’d be nice then he’d do or say something that would upset me terribly. Often making me feel emotionally shut out. But I’d put up with it because I knew it would pass... it always did. He owns his own business and is under a lot of pressure. Since January I had started to feel differently... realising I was looking forward to him working away and dreading him coming home. I’d always have to have the house looking nice and tidy so he didn’t moan at me when he got back. The intimacy had died between us... he wasn’t interested when I was and I was too tired when he was in the mood... Fast forward to 12 weeks ago...
I picked up his iPad and checked the history... often it was deleted which made me feel a bit concerned... but this time I found days and days of visits to porn sites, in particular a swingers website. I had found evidence of this 4 years ago and talked to him saying I felt it was affecting our sex life and he needed to talk to me about it. He said it was just curiosity nothing more. I said that if he kept doing it I would leave him. So this time I did some more digging and found his login to the swingers site. That’s when I’d discovered he had been an active member for 13 years!! But worse than that WE had been a member... he had posted over 60 intimate photos of me and a video of us having sex on this site! Some photos had been viewed over 2000 times!! I found the most awful messages saying how we were looking to swap partners and how he wants to watch me with another man. He would ask others for more photos of their wives and sometimes pretend to be me to communicate with women about being bisexual!! He would ask others to join him in the chat room... he was on every night!!
So I confronted him and told him it was over and he had to move out... that’s when things got worse...
His anxiety spiralled... he moved into the spare room but I used to wake in the middle of the night and found him going through my phone. He’d hacked into all my email accounts and was viewing the activity on his laptop and phone (I only discovered this a couple of weeks ago)...
then one evening after I had put the children to bed (he never helped with the kids and I always joked I felt like a single parent) he freaked out telling me he wanted to kill himself if he couldn’t be with me... he got his shotgun cabinet keys and ran to get his gun... I was screaming at him and had to get between the cabinet and him and physically try to stop him. Eventually he ran outside and to the shed (where he had previously threatened to “throw a rope over a beam”)... I locked the doors and called the police. My poor children had heard the commotion. As I was on the phone he walked in... he’d got a ladder and climbed in through an open upstairs window!! Eventually the police came and removed the shotgun from the premises and his licence. He moved out for 2 weeks to his mum’s but she was not sympathetic and made him worse... so I stupidly agreed to allow him back in the house to get better (the doctor had prescribed citalopram for his anxiety and depression)... all the while I had said we are still separating... but he refuses to accept it. He keeps telling me how much he loves me one minute then a few hours later how he wants a divorce! He keeps saying he has found a house to rent but nothing ever materialises! I am 100% financially dependent on him so I am unable to move out with the children plus my solicitor says I must try to stay in the house. Recently I have developed a friendship with a man who I got to know through my owning of horses. He’s has been a wonderful ear and shoulder... my husband knows about him and has stepped up his game.. almost like it’s a competition! I am not having an affair with him but I have developed feelings for him and cannot imagine not having him in my life. My husband will not accept this. He has followed me and confronted the man in question. One minute he says he gives us his blessing and will leave, the next he will say he’s not giving up without a fight and that I’m still HIS wife... despite we are technically separated. He tries to kiss me when I don’t want him to touch me. When I reject him he calls me names and starts trying to use the children to upset me and make me give him another chance. He’s being overly attentive to the children which he has never been before. It’s driving me crazy. I know it’s just another mind game but I keep feeling myself getting sucked back in! I need to stay strong... but it’s so hard... xxx

OP posts:
Seeingadistance · 20/09/2018 02:39

I am so sorry to hear this, lulu5. Your husband was clearly a very troubled man, and you are in no way to blame for his actions. You were doing your best to protect your children and yourself in a horrible and very difficult situation.

Be kind to yourself, and take advantage of all the support you can get, for you and the children.

Flowers
eaturveggies · 20/09/2018 03:13

I'm so sorry Thanks

LaGruffaloGrumble · 20/09/2018 03:27

It’s not your fault. Don’t feel guilty. I hope you have lots of support there for you and your DC.

Flowers
polkadotpixie · 20/09/2018 03:35

I'm so sorry to hear that OP. You protected your children though and that is the most important thing in this situation

Your husband clearly had significant issues in a variety of ways but you have no reason to feel guilty. He made a decision that will sadly devastate his children and family but you are not responsible for that decision

Thinking of you Thanks

Neverplayleapfrogwithaunicorn · 20/09/2018 03:56

My sympathies to you and your children.
This is not in any way your fault At all
Please remember that xx you did the right thing for the safety of your children.
You and your children are safe and that’s what you have to focus on and build on xx

Neverplayleapfrogwithaunicorn · 20/09/2018 04:01

When you are feeling up to it in the future please request that all images and videos are removed from the site. If they do not comply with your wishes take a legal route xx I know this is not something you want to think of right now but eventually it will help rebuild your esteem x

ninetyone · 20/09/2018 04:28

I'm so sorry. This is not your fault. He clearly had many issues and couldn't deal with the consequences of his behaviour.

Please get lots of real life support for you and your children to help you process this.

Take care

Peridot1 · 20/09/2018 04:36

I am so sorry. He sounded really unstable and troubled and this is not your fault. By the sounds of things he was escalating badly.

I’m sure the children are devastated but eventually they will understand that he was mentally ill.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 20/09/2018 05:06

He was ill, but he was also dangerous. You did what you needed to do to protect your children. He could so easily have taken them and you. You and your children are safe. Try not to feel guilty, he chose to post the images, he chose to make the marriage impossible.

BasicUsername · 20/09/2018 05:08

This is not your fault @lulu5

I am so sorry for what you have been put through. You and your children are safe, and in time you can rebuild your life. Take good care of yourself, you need all your strength.

loobylou10 · 20/09/2018 05:31

I hope you’re ok.

picklemepopcorn · 20/09/2018 06:30

I'm sure you are reeling. You kept yourself and your children safe. There was nothing you could have done to change things.
Thanks

ShackUp · 20/09/2018 06:30

lulu Thanks you did exactly the right thing in protecting you and your children. You were not responsible for your husband. Look after yourself.

newdaylight · 20/09/2018 06:52

@lulu, you had to put your children first and you did that. It's a horrific situation but he was clearly incredibly unstable and while that led to him taking his life which is tragic, it also underlines just how unsafe you and the children would have been with him.

All the best to you as you navigate this time with your children. I hope you have some support on real life

slapmyarseandcallmemary · 20/09/2018 07:04

Hope you & your kids are ok. Sorry this happened. Sending love Thanks

MakeMineATwin2 · 20/09/2018 07:06

This was not your fault !

I'm so sorry to hear of your update op. He obviously had a lot of problems which he did not seem to want to address and get help for.

Please take care of yourself and your dc. Please don't feel this was your fault at all. You were doing what was right to put you and your dc first.

fairgroundsnack · 20/09/2018 07:53

I’m so sorry to hear this. It’s absolutely not your fault, you protected your children. Thinking of you all.

YourHandInMyHand · 20/09/2018 08:39

Oh my goodness.

I want to echo everyone else saying this is not your fault. His actions actually show that you made the right call and protected yourself and your children. Sadly some families in this situation it's not just the one troubled adult that doesn't survive as they take their immediate families with them too. Sad

In time please access some counselling for yourself and also for your children. You will no doubt all feel such a range of emotions over the coming days and months. Take care.

hellsbellsmelons · 20/09/2018 08:48

feel like it’s my fault. That I failed him
You will feel like this and nothing we can say can take that away.
However, you did exactly the right thing.
Who knows what might have happened to you and the DC if you hadn't have taken action when you did.
As an adult, he was in charge of his own decisions and actions.
HE did this.
I've no idea how you get over something like this but please get some help from professional organisations.
Harsh as it sounds now, but you are safe and free from this vile abusive bully who made your life miserable.
Be kind to yourself. This is NOT your fault.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/09/2018 09:22

Oh Lulu I'm so very sorry to hear this.

Please do not blame yourself, this is his ultimate selfish act to leave you with this guilt. This is not your fault.

I lost a friend to suicide 20 years ago and felt exactly the same. It took me a long time to realise that it was his decision and there was nothing I could have done to change that.

Please look after yourself and your DC.

PaleRider1 · 20/09/2018 10:26

Sorry to read your update Lulu. Be kind to yourself
Flowers

woolduvet · 20/09/2018 11:13

Oh gosh, I'm so sorry, to do that he must have been so ill and hiding it until it all got too much, look after yourselves and the children, get counselling for you all.

beenandgoneandbackagain · 20/09/2018 11:30

It is not your fault. He is the one responsible for his actions. Please get counselling and support for you and your children.

I am actually thinking how positive it is that this is not a thread that ends with no further updates, and a news report of yet another man killing his children before killing himself.

You did the right thing. I am happy you and your children are now safe.

TatianaLarina · 20/09/2018 11:46

OP, just read your thread, I’m very sorry to hear the outcome.

You did nothing wrong, in fact you did everything right: you protected the children and yourself from a man who was clearly not mentally well. You could never have ‘saved’ him - he alone could be responsible for his mental health and getting treatment. But psychiatrists may not have able to save him either.

bangourvillagebesttimeever · 20/09/2018 12:01

lulu5 what a truly tragic thread. The only comments I have is that this is not your fault. The outcome could have been much worse as the risk to you and your DC was so high. I was worried that he would hurt you and them and as sad and awful as I may sound I am glad he only took his own life. You will all recover from this....