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Selfish SIL

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Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:02

I’m a 37 year old man. I met my current girlfriend just over a year ago. As soon as I met her I knew she was ‘The One’. I’ve had a lot of bad luck with women over the years and never thought I’d meet anyone like my girlfriend. I introduced her to my family who all liked her but within a week or so of introducing her she had an awful riding accident which left her in a coma and the doctors didn’t think she’d pull through. Anyway, long story short, she eventually woke from the coma and was released from hospital 6 months after her accident. She has problems with her memory and can get very paranoid, but her main issues are physical. She’s very unsteady on her feet and falls over a lot (once on top of a child). She needs help showering, going to the toilet, getting dressed, can’t cook or carry a drink. She basically needs support with most tasks and someone with her all the time.

From conversations I’d had with her whilst she was in hospital she’d made it clear that she wanted to move in with me rather than go back to her parents house (where she’d been living prior to her accident) once she was released from hospital. I wasn’t sure about this but didn’t want to be the bad guy when she was still so fragile so agreed to let her move in with me and started trying to find ways to make this work. We spoke about who would help her during the day when I was at work and she rejected the idea of her parents helping her as she finds them annoying. She had a group of friends who were keen to help but it still left a number of days when there was no one around. So I suggested that my SIL could do it as she only worked part time in teaching and was at home the rest of the week looking after my nephew (aged 3).

My girlfriend and my SIL had only met twice before the accident but I was sure they’d get on well with each other so it seemed like the perfect solution. I spoke to my brother about his wife (my SIL) helping to care for my girlfriend. He said they would help out where they could but was a bit non-committal about my SIL helping on a regular basis. He said he’d mention it to her.

Anyway, time moved on and I didn’t hear from my SIL about this at all. My girlfriend had a vague release date from hospital and I started getting worried about who was going to look after her for the remaining days. I was going to speak to my brother again asking for my SIL to commit to certain days and times each week but he told me that my SIL had been admitted into hospital for a number of days (wouldn’t tell me why) and whilst in hospital they’d also found out she was pregnant. Obviously this wasn’t the time to discuss my girlfriend’s care so I left it.

Anyway, SIL came out of hospital and still didn’t bring up caring for my girlfriend (and I didn't mention it) and time has continued to move on. She has been round to see my girlfriend a few times and invited her round to hers on the odd occasion as well as taken her out a couple of times but that’s it.

It’s now 6 months since my girlfriend came out of hospital and it has been so hard. I’m exhausted. My girlfriend is making progress and improving but not as quickly as I’d hoped and I’m still having to do a lot for her when I’m with her. Every week I’m trying to find people to care for her whilst I’m at work so she isn’t on her own and I’m getting more and more angry at certain people for not doing more for my girlfriend. Her parents were very keen to help at the start and were constantly offering support but that has dwindled now due to my girlfriend not wanting to accept their help. Her friends seem reluctant to rearrange their working weeks to come and sit with her and I’m scratching around trying to get people to commit to a routine each week that they stick to. I’m also so angry at my SIL for not doing more. She’s part time and spends the rest of her week at home with her child. She literally has nothing but time on her hands yet still is only offering sporadic support. I’m so angry that I can’t even look at her or speak to her. She’s currently on maternity leave waiting for the baby to arrive and still not offering to help out on a regular basis. I’m so angry that I don’t think our relationship will ever be the same again.

Anyway, am I being unfair to my SIL to expect her to look after my girlfriend on the days that she isn't working. I don’t think it’s a big ask because it’s not like she’s working but someone I mentioned this situation to thinks I’m being very unfair. I don’t think I am. What can I say to her to make her realise how selfish she's being. I don’t want to ask people in real life so thought I’d try here.

OP posts:
Nohelp5 · 12/08/2018 11:40

Shampooeee, she did get some money after the accident but I've got a feeling it was from crowdfunding as opposed to an insurance payout. I could be wrong though. None of the money has been used to help with her recovery from what I can see, although again, I could be wrong. She doesn't explain things well and gets confused easily so it's hard working out what help she gets based on what she says. She forgets words and the thread of what she's saying, and goes off on tangents a lot. Her words are also slurred so it can be like listening to a very drunk person talking. I find conversation with her difficult and she's obviously frustrated that everyone struggles to understand her. My BIL tends to talk for her but I'm not convinced what he's saying is the actual truth as there are a few things he's said which she's later contradicted (although maybe that was just her confusion again?).

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fearfultrill · 12/08/2018 11:47

Are you for real? It's no one else's responsibility, least of all your PREGNANT sister in law who has 'nothing but time on her hands'!!! Jesus Christ are you going to get a shock when you have children. How easy exactly do you think it is to look after a 3 year old while pregnant?

I am absolutely incensed at this post. You are an entitled so and so who needs to take a good long hard look in the mirror.

I'm sorry about your girlfriends difficulties but it isn't really anyone else's responsibility. You need to get hired help.

I bet you aren't even bothering to offer payment to all of these recruits for their time, are you?!

fearfultrill · 12/08/2018 11:49

I just read this is a reverse. Thank god! Maybe show would brother this thread OP.

thethoughtfox · 12/08/2018 11:55

This woman wasn't even an established member of the extended family. The relationship was new and you didn't even know her. It is insane to expect his family to have any part in this. This is an odd set up. What are your brother's reasons for taking complete responsibility for the care of a woman he was in a new relationship with? Naive? Has a saviour complex? Controlling?

confusedmomm · 12/08/2018 12:47

Your are being very unreasonable with SIL.

catlady34 · 12/08/2018 14:25

It sounds like he's just really stressed out and sees you as the answer to his problems. Which is obviously not fair, but he is trapped in a very bad situation so try not to hold it against him.

Heatherjayne1972 · 12/08/2018 14:46

Wow!! You’re expecting a pregnant woman with a child to be an unpaid carer

If I was her I’d laugh in your face
What a ridiculous idea

Your gf needs to move back to her parents.

LeftRightCentre · 12/08/2018 15:00

Which is obviously not fair, but he is trapped in a very bad situation so try not to hold it against him.

He isn't trapped. He brought it on himself. He has the power to send the girlfriend back to her parents. He's an interfering, pisstaking twat and the OP has sensibly decided to go low contact with him.

Petitpomme · 12/08/2018 15:50

Are you really saying your SIL has free time on her hands because she's 'just at home with her child' & 'on maternity leave'!? She's literally about to give birth to another human and you're expecting her to be a carer for an adult as well?
You don't see how you're being unreasonable?!

ciderhouserules · 12/08/2018 15:53

This is actually getting quite confusing now, OP.

Those who have NOT READ THE FUCKING THREAD who are coming on offering advice and berating you as the BIL, and those who HAVE READ THE FUCKING THREAD and are offering advice to you, the SIL! Grin

It really is an eye -opener, if such a thing were needed on MN, as to how many posters don't even bother to read the OPs posts. Even after 185 posts.

Hmm
MazDazzle · 12/08/2018 15:59

I rtft in the beginning then checked back in for an update, but missed the OP revealing that she was the sister in law. I know your supposed to click something that shows only the OP’s posts, but I don’t seem to be able to do that on my phone.

BunsOfAnarchy · 12/08/2018 17:03

Is his family Asian

Are you fucking for real?! Yep asians EXPECT dils and sils to care for girlfriends who no one barely knows or has met more than once!Hmm
Please dont make ridiculous assumptions like this.

Anyway OP, this is so appalling. I cannot believe his expectations, ive never ever heard of this situation before, there are some CFs out there but your bil takes the fucking whole pack of biscuits here on this.

Look after yourself and completely extricate yourself from this situation. Relax, put your feet up and tell bil to fuck off, you're about to give birth and u have a toddler.

Wishing you all the best for the pregnancy and new arrival xx

MadMags · 12/08/2018 17:31

This is why reverses are so fucking annoying!!!!

FlyByNightStar · 12/08/2018 17:31

Sorry can't believe this

Nohelp5 · 12/08/2018 18:11

MadMags, maybe it is annoying for people who are only following this thread for entertainment purposes. But for me, a person who was seeking clarity on a difficult situation, I've found the perspective of others and the advice given valuable regardless of whether they thought I was the BIL or the SIL.

OP posts:
Quartz2208 · 12/08/2018 18:26

what was your relationship like before

Its interesting writing it as a reverse though because as I said I get the impression from you that he isnt coping and doesnt know what to do - but that is at odds with the girlfriend is lovely

because I cannot work out whether or not he is a man struggling who needs help and is acting out, or someone who is used to getting his own way and people doing what he wants - or (more likely) a mix of the two.

lemonsorbetinthesun · 12/08/2018 18:29

Sounds like they are avoiding some form
Of formal care.

If she needs that level of care and support then I'm sure she should have had a CHC assessment. Surely she should have had an OT assessment also. Although I know some places are better at organising this stuff than others.

Either way it's not your responsibility to look after anyone else, you've got enough to do and it sounds like you wouldn't be very capable at present anyway! I had SPD and it's so painful.

Mandapanda85 · 12/08/2018 18:36

Wow please tell this bil of yours to fuck right off. His girlfriends not your responsibility OP! I'm actually really really angry on your behalf! What a total fucking dick!!! Thanks

AcrossthePond55 · 12/08/2018 18:58

All you can do it keep repeating "We've discussed this before, you know my answer. If you keep on at me I will leave/put down the phone/kick your sorry arses out my house" (ok word that last one more nicely) to BiL and DH's family. And if they say "You're so selfish", just shrug and say "that's your opinion". To continue to provide reasons just invites further argument.

I agree with others that your DH needs counseling. I wouldn't suggest it to the rest of the family, that would be to invite WW3.

Nohelp5 · 12/08/2018 19:31

Quartz, we used to get on very well. Then over the years various incidents have caused our relationship to deteriorate which I am very sad about. I saw him like a brother and now we are like strangers.

The girlfriend seems lovely, although I know she can be hard work for BIL and cause arguments over nothing and be snappy and difficult, but I have presumed that was down to her situation and frustrations rather than her being a nasty person. My BIL is a complex person. He used to be very laid back but he's got more and more uptight the longer I've known him. I now find him very controlling of situations and people but not because he wants to have power over people, it more seems like he's like that because he's unable to imagine anyone having a different opinion to him. Like if we went out for a meal he might decide that no one is having a desert because he doesn't want one because he's too full up. If he's full up then we're all full up. When he's pulled up on it he'll be utterly astounded that anyone would want a desert. It's that kind of controlling of situations/people.

I think he's struggling and I really feel for him. I don't think his girlfriend really understands how hard he is finding it. Regardless, to ask me for help was one thing but to expect help and then treat me badly when I wasn't able to do it is a completely different thing. I haven't done anything wrong. He doesn't treat her family like this or her friends, just me, yet I've got less of a reason to be helping out than them. It's weird. Maybe he doesn't want to alienate her family and friends by having a go at them so because he can't direct his anger at them he's misdirecting it at me instead?

As for dh, yes I do believe he should have counselling. I will mention it to him but I doubt he'd go for it because he doesn't really see that what his parents used to do to him was wrong. He says "it's just what parents did in the 1980s" to discipline their kids. Mine didn't. None of my friends' parents were like that either.

OP posts:
Nohelp5 · 12/08/2018 19:39

Lemonsorbet, yes I agree it does sound like they aren't getting all the help and support they should be getting. She's not even having any sort of physio to help improve her walking/balance. Surely physio would be basic help for someone in her situation?

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lemonsorbetinthesun · 12/08/2018 19:51

A physio would be good for long term management of any joint/muscular type issues. Building up strength and exercises.

An OT assessment would help to assess deficits, so what she needs help with on a daily basis and how her condition affects her life. Also they may be able to provide some equipment that would make her life much easier and also may help her to complete tasks independently.

This would then give good information for continuing health care or social care funded care package.

It sounds like they've not really communicated with you if any of this has taken place. I'd be tempted to ask if they try and guilt you into it again.

Obviously this is not your responsibility at all!! However, the poor woman needs some help and CHC funding or social care do have a duty to care for this woman.

NewNameForTodaysPost · 12/08/2018 19:58

This shit cannot be real. I call reverse.

Gemini69 · 12/08/2018 19:59

for those LATE to the Thread... the OP has already stated this IS A REVERSE... Hmm

NewNameForTodaysPost · 12/08/2018 20:00

Sorry (blush). Didn't see it was longer than one page. Will RTFT post haste!

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