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Selfish SIL

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Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:02

I’m a 37 year old man. I met my current girlfriend just over a year ago. As soon as I met her I knew she was ‘The One’. I’ve had a lot of bad luck with women over the years and never thought I’d meet anyone like my girlfriend. I introduced her to my family who all liked her but within a week or so of introducing her she had an awful riding accident which left her in a coma and the doctors didn’t think she’d pull through. Anyway, long story short, she eventually woke from the coma and was released from hospital 6 months after her accident. She has problems with her memory and can get very paranoid, but her main issues are physical. She’s very unsteady on her feet and falls over a lot (once on top of a child). She needs help showering, going to the toilet, getting dressed, can’t cook or carry a drink. She basically needs support with most tasks and someone with her all the time.

From conversations I’d had with her whilst she was in hospital she’d made it clear that she wanted to move in with me rather than go back to her parents house (where she’d been living prior to her accident) once she was released from hospital. I wasn’t sure about this but didn’t want to be the bad guy when she was still so fragile so agreed to let her move in with me and started trying to find ways to make this work. We spoke about who would help her during the day when I was at work and she rejected the idea of her parents helping her as she finds them annoying. She had a group of friends who were keen to help but it still left a number of days when there was no one around. So I suggested that my SIL could do it as she only worked part time in teaching and was at home the rest of the week looking after my nephew (aged 3).

My girlfriend and my SIL had only met twice before the accident but I was sure they’d get on well with each other so it seemed like the perfect solution. I spoke to my brother about his wife (my SIL) helping to care for my girlfriend. He said they would help out where they could but was a bit non-committal about my SIL helping on a regular basis. He said he’d mention it to her.

Anyway, time moved on and I didn’t hear from my SIL about this at all. My girlfriend had a vague release date from hospital and I started getting worried about who was going to look after her for the remaining days. I was going to speak to my brother again asking for my SIL to commit to certain days and times each week but he told me that my SIL had been admitted into hospital for a number of days (wouldn’t tell me why) and whilst in hospital they’d also found out she was pregnant. Obviously this wasn’t the time to discuss my girlfriend’s care so I left it.

Anyway, SIL came out of hospital and still didn’t bring up caring for my girlfriend (and I didn't mention it) and time has continued to move on. She has been round to see my girlfriend a few times and invited her round to hers on the odd occasion as well as taken her out a couple of times but that’s it.

It’s now 6 months since my girlfriend came out of hospital and it has been so hard. I’m exhausted. My girlfriend is making progress and improving but not as quickly as I’d hoped and I’m still having to do a lot for her when I’m with her. Every week I’m trying to find people to care for her whilst I’m at work so she isn’t on her own and I’m getting more and more angry at certain people for not doing more for my girlfriend. Her parents were very keen to help at the start and were constantly offering support but that has dwindled now due to my girlfriend not wanting to accept their help. Her friends seem reluctant to rearrange their working weeks to come and sit with her and I’m scratching around trying to get people to commit to a routine each week that they stick to. I’m also so angry at my SIL for not doing more. She’s part time and spends the rest of her week at home with her child. She literally has nothing but time on her hands yet still is only offering sporadic support. I’m so angry that I can’t even look at her or speak to her. She’s currently on maternity leave waiting for the baby to arrive and still not offering to help out on a regular basis. I’m so angry that I don’t think our relationship will ever be the same again.

Anyway, am I being unfair to my SIL to expect her to look after my girlfriend on the days that she isn't working. I don’t think it’s a big ask because it’s not like she’s working but someone I mentioned this situation to thinks I’m being very unfair. I don’t think I am. What can I say to her to make her realise how selfish she's being. I don’t want to ask people in real life so thought I’d try here.

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lightonthewater · 11/08/2018 16:49

Just read the other replies... totally confused. It appears the post was by the SIL???

SchadenfreudePersonified · 11/08/2018 16:49

I'm sorry - but is this real?

Your girlfriend is NOT your SIL's responsibility. If your GF chooses not to have her own family members help her, that is her choice, but it doesn't mean that anyone else HAS to step in to fill the gap.

Your SIL works and has a young child and will soon have another to care for, but to be frank, even if she had no children and spent her life binge-watching Corrie Classic, she still would not be at your beck and call.

YOU have chosen to look after your GF (which is wonderful of you); your GF has chosen to refuse help from her parents (which is her choice), but NOBODY is obligated to commit to pretty much full time care for her.

I would think that most of both families (and possibly friends) will be happy to help out occasionally or in an emergency, but it is a HUGE commitment. As you are finding out.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:50

Thanks for all the messages. It's definitely helped to toughen me up. I was honestly starting to question myself on whether I actually was being as selfish as he was leading me to believe.

Sorry if I haven't answered all questions. I'll have a scout through the thread and see what I haven't responded to.

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timeisnotaline · 11/08/2018 16:51

Jesus Christ. I appreciate carIng for his gf is hard work (but there are lots if options) but even so have your dh drop your 3yo around for the afternoon for him to look after. And he can say wife is pregnant and already working pretty bloody hard looking after our child, your turn. Back at 5. It’s not a walk in the park!

SchadenfreudePersonified · 11/08/2018 16:53

Yes Haffiana - it's hilarious how many people are supportive of someone who's put upon.

It might surprise you to find that we feel the same way even though the SIL is the one posting.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:53

I have never had any help from the BIL. He's never once looked after my ds or done anything to make life easier for us. The whole family are takers though.

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nervousnails · 11/08/2018 16:54

OP, ask him to fuck off. YANBU.

Accountant222 · 11/08/2018 16:56

I think your girlfriend put you in an incredibly difficult position, you had only known her a week or so before her accident. It wasn't down to you to take on the care.

You are being very unfair on your SIlL.

Get professional help in, carers allowance and other benefits will help pay for it.

trojanpony · 11/08/2018 16:57

YANBU.
He is absolutely insane.
This woman is a virtual stranger to you

I am angry on your behalf AngryAngryAngry
You owe her and your BIL absolutely nothing.
What if she fell on you when pregnant!?

Also what the hell is your husband doing in all this??? You say he is supporting you but he should have told his brother the request was outrageous from the start.
I’d be disengaging from this entirely. Fuck ‘em.
And If the MIL and FIL etc think you are being so mean let them go round twice a week.

ADishBestEatenCold · 11/08/2018 16:58

Your BiL is entirely unreasonable for expecting you to provide care on a formal basis (that is, anything other than popping in to see the GF when you are free to do so/occasionally getting her shopping along with yours/helping out in an emergency/etc).

You are entirely unreasonable for doing a reverse. Can't stand them.

"I'm quite frankly sick of the entire family."

How many people are in this family? How many of those have committed to a regular number of hours per week, caring for the GF?

Has your BiL considered reducing his working hours in order to fill the care deficit?

What does this woman really have against her own parents helping out?

Bluetrews25 · 11/08/2018 16:58

The girlfriend needs a TEAM of properly TRAINED and PAID carers from an agency. Then he can stop stressing and trying to push anyone with a vagina who is not in an office setting 24/7 to donate their time and energy on demand for free.
Did I mention they need to be TRAINED?
And deserve to be PAID for their work?
And there needs to be a TEAM of them?

MadMags · 11/08/2018 16:59

Why the reverse? Ridiculous.

diddl · 11/08/2018 16:59

" My BIL is one of those men who treats family like employees."

Sounds as if your husband is too.

Tell your BIL no more & tell your husband that that is your decision & that he needs to tell his brother to stfu about it & make other arrangements.

SandyY2K · 11/08/2018 17:00

Why on earth should your SIL care for your GF.

it's absolutely nothing to do with her and I'd have been annoyed you even asked. How presumptuous and cheeky.

Your GF should not have moved in with you. I would not have allowed a BF to move in under those circumstances.

You agreed it. Your GF is quite selfish expecting this. Has she thought about her care? You arent her nok.

JessicaJonesJacket · 11/08/2018 17:00

This all sounds dysfunctional. He moved her in when he hardly knew her. She expects him to look after her whilst turning down offers of help from her parents and friends. Now he expects you to become her carer.

I'd limit contact with the entire family. They're obviously demanding and manipulative. Your DH should have your back on this enough to make it clear to them that they haven't to ask again.

Mummyoflittledragon · 11/08/2018 17:02

Who did you care for before? Is his family Asian? This expectation of a dil/sil to take the role of carer is not generally one I recognise myself as white British.

Your bil has 3 choices.
A) give up work to be her full time carer
B) get carers in
C) send his gf (whom he knew for a very short period of time) back to her family, who want to care for her

None of those choices entail forcing a pregnant mother to care for a stranger.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:03

trojanpony, it was actually my ds that she fell on top of when she first came out of hospital. She was upset and embarrassed and I felt awful for her but she really scared my ds and hurt his head. After that all I kept thinking was that what if she did that again, what if she fell on me, what if she fell down the stairs and pulled me with her. It was just too much. But BIL doesn't get this. He says that she wouldn't move off the sofa when I looked after her. He says that he's exhausted looking after her and needs a break yet doesn't see that I would also find it exhausting looking after her plus ds and also whilst pregnant. It's just ridiculous.

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LeftRightCentre · 11/08/2018 17:06

The only proper response to your BIL is 'Fuck off.' As for your h, he gets one of those, too.

Missingstreetlife · 11/08/2018 17:06

Your dh might mention pip and esa to his brother and gf, there may be other financial help too which could enable them to pay carer. It seems hard to believe hospital didn't assess before discharge. Agree they should contact social services for assessment

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:07

Sorry AD. I know reverses are annoying. I just struggled writing it factually from my point of view. It kept getting too emotional and was all about my feelings rather than the facts. As soon as I wrote as him it seemed to make more factual sense.

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LeftRightCentre · 11/08/2018 17:08

But BIL doesn't get this. He says that she wouldn't move off the sofa when I looked after her. He says that he's exhausted looking after her and needs a break yet doesn't see that I would also find it exhausting looking after her plus ds and also whilst pregnant. It's just ridiculous.

He doesn't have to get it. 'You decided to move her in with you. You need to provide paid professional help that she needs. Assuming women are here to do your bidding for free is sexist bullshit. Bye.'

LeftRightCentre · 11/08/2018 17:09

Don't bother mentioning PIP or ESA to them or getting involved in their affairs because they are selfish cunts.

ADishBestEatenCold · 11/08/2018 17:09

"He says that he's exhausted looking after her and needs a break yet "

Does she have an external care package? Any external/ professional care?

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:09

No, BIL won't reduce his hours. Happy to outsource it to family and friends instead.

The girlfriend just finds her mum and dad annoying. She says her mum is annoying to be around and her dad tries to stop her from doing things she isn't ready for.

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Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:10

No not an Asian family. White British.

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