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Selfish SIL

216 replies

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:02

I’m a 37 year old man. I met my current girlfriend just over a year ago. As soon as I met her I knew she was ‘The One’. I’ve had a lot of bad luck with women over the years and never thought I’d meet anyone like my girlfriend. I introduced her to my family who all liked her but within a week or so of introducing her she had an awful riding accident which left her in a coma and the doctors didn’t think she’d pull through. Anyway, long story short, she eventually woke from the coma and was released from hospital 6 months after her accident. She has problems with her memory and can get very paranoid, but her main issues are physical. She’s very unsteady on her feet and falls over a lot (once on top of a child). She needs help showering, going to the toilet, getting dressed, can’t cook or carry a drink. She basically needs support with most tasks and someone with her all the time.

From conversations I’d had with her whilst she was in hospital she’d made it clear that she wanted to move in with me rather than go back to her parents house (where she’d been living prior to her accident) once she was released from hospital. I wasn’t sure about this but didn’t want to be the bad guy when she was still so fragile so agreed to let her move in with me and started trying to find ways to make this work. We spoke about who would help her during the day when I was at work and she rejected the idea of her parents helping her as she finds them annoying. She had a group of friends who were keen to help but it still left a number of days when there was no one around. So I suggested that my SIL could do it as she only worked part time in teaching and was at home the rest of the week looking after my nephew (aged 3).

My girlfriend and my SIL had only met twice before the accident but I was sure they’d get on well with each other so it seemed like the perfect solution. I spoke to my brother about his wife (my SIL) helping to care for my girlfriend. He said they would help out where they could but was a bit non-committal about my SIL helping on a regular basis. He said he’d mention it to her.

Anyway, time moved on and I didn’t hear from my SIL about this at all. My girlfriend had a vague release date from hospital and I started getting worried about who was going to look after her for the remaining days. I was going to speak to my brother again asking for my SIL to commit to certain days and times each week but he told me that my SIL had been admitted into hospital for a number of days (wouldn’t tell me why) and whilst in hospital they’d also found out she was pregnant. Obviously this wasn’t the time to discuss my girlfriend’s care so I left it.

Anyway, SIL came out of hospital and still didn’t bring up caring for my girlfriend (and I didn't mention it) and time has continued to move on. She has been round to see my girlfriend a few times and invited her round to hers on the odd occasion as well as taken her out a couple of times but that’s it.

It’s now 6 months since my girlfriend came out of hospital and it has been so hard. I’m exhausted. My girlfriend is making progress and improving but not as quickly as I’d hoped and I’m still having to do a lot for her when I’m with her. Every week I’m trying to find people to care for her whilst I’m at work so she isn’t on her own and I’m getting more and more angry at certain people for not doing more for my girlfriend. Her parents were very keen to help at the start and were constantly offering support but that has dwindled now due to my girlfriend not wanting to accept their help. Her friends seem reluctant to rearrange their working weeks to come and sit with her and I’m scratching around trying to get people to commit to a routine each week that they stick to. I’m also so angry at my SIL for not doing more. She’s part time and spends the rest of her week at home with her child. She literally has nothing but time on her hands yet still is only offering sporadic support. I’m so angry that I can’t even look at her or speak to her. She’s currently on maternity leave waiting for the baby to arrive and still not offering to help out on a regular basis. I’m so angry that I don’t think our relationship will ever be the same again.

Anyway, am I being unfair to my SIL to expect her to look after my girlfriend on the days that she isn't working. I don’t think it’s a big ask because it’s not like she’s working but someone I mentioned this situation to thinks I’m being very unfair. I don’t think I am. What can I say to her to make her realise how selfish she's being. I don’t want to ask people in real life so thought I’d try here.

OP posts:
Gemini69 · 11/08/2018 17:27

your BIL sounds like a DICK... and She sounds fucking entitled... why aren't any of her family wiping her arse ? She prefers strangers to do this... it's bloody weird Hmm

Poisongirl81 · 11/08/2018 17:28

this is crazy! tell them to get lost...serious cheek they have.

Returnofthesmileybar · 11/08/2018 17:34

Families help each other "she doesn't want her family to help because they annoy her, she wants someone else's family to help her!" Cheeky bastards

sosickofthisshit · 11/08/2018 17:34

They're all selfish fuckers trying to put this on you. If she needs such intensive care, social services can get involved. She's not your responsibility and I would tell the lot of them to fuck off, and I'd be having serious words with your husband. He sounds like a dick.

Theweasleytwins · 11/08/2018 17:41

If you are on maternity leave surely you arent very mobile?

Also mega pissed me off with the notion of you being at home and not doing anything while having a toddler- he clearly has no children

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:47

No not very mobile at all. Got SPD and sciatica so I'm struggling to take care of ds when dh is at work. I've had my mum round here a lot of the time at the moment to help with him. No offers from dh's side. Funny that.

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Gemini69 · 11/08/2018 18:02

I hope you're feeling not one ounce of guilt OP... because you have zilch to feel guilty for... this is not your problem Lady... Flowers

Anon90 · 11/08/2018 18:04

Your girlfriend got herself nearly killed. No one else. Your SIL has been perfectly fair and has gone out of her way to visit and take her out. Wtf.

Eggoispreggo · 11/08/2018 18:06

Good for you, fuck 'em!
Spend time with your own family and get as much rest as you can before new baby arrives. Congratulations!!

Ps I had a feeling it was your DC she had fallen into.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 11/08/2018 18:07

Well to be fair the girlfriend is a using cheeky fucker too, who moves in with their boyfriend of six months and gets him to be her carer??

She has experienced a serious head injury. She may not have any idea that what she is expecting of people is unreasonable.

BIL is the one at fault here.

Anon90 · 11/08/2018 18:35

Love threads like this. Outs all the twats who can't read a thread before having a yap...

I was too angry to go on reading tbh 😂

Lollypop701 · 11/08/2018 19:05

I’m actually lol in complete astonishment at this... so bil completely over extended himself by choice, won’t tell gf that her family will have to help and she is being a cf for expecting him to provide ft care, expects his family to provide a full time care package (because Obs everyone else has miraculously got time for this for unknown period, when he doesn’t) ... cue all family turning it to pregnant sil (scapegoat) fault so they can duck out of any blame/responsiblity. op you/dh really need to stop asking questions/avoid discussion about her care. At all. Not your circus!

Bluetrews25 · 11/08/2018 19:07

So, if 'family helps family' gets trotted out again, say, 'oh thank you, I thought you'd NEVER ask! I am struggling SO much to get all the done, with my SPD and sciatica, can I expect you at tomorrow?'
Try to keep a straight face as you do it, OP
All animals are equal (but some are more equal than others) Wink

SandyY2K · 11/08/2018 19:41

I was too angry to go on reading tbh

Me too.

No need to be a twat because you haven't read the whole thread. It says more about them than anything else.

OP..I'd actually be pissed off that my DH even entertained this nonsense tbh.

It doesn't sound like your BIL adds any value to your life, so he can just bugger off.

It's not your problem.

Needsmorebeans · 11/08/2018 20:34

interested to know your DPs view on all of this. It is amazing CF behaviour from BiL and his partner to refuse offers of help from her parents but insist that comparative strangers, who are medically not fit to help, should help. I had spd too and it was bloody awful so sympathies.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 20:41

Honestly, reading everyone's comments has strengthened me no end. I feel so much more confident in my own decisions and won't be justifying to anyone in the family why I'm not being a carer for this woman. I had previously cared for a sick grandparent and it's hard and mentally draining. I admit I do feel for my BIL for that reason as I think he went into it with good intentions but quickly got out of his depth. However, his behaviour towards me is unacceptable and his expectation was unreasonable. I don't think I realised how unreasonable it actually was until I posted on here.

I've spoken to my dh this afternoon because I was flooded with anger and he reiterated that he's on my side and agrees with everything I'm saying but at the same time he's worrying about me having a huge bust up with his whole family. No one wants a family war- I get it- but he needs to stand up for me in front of them if he's agreeing with what I'm saying.

I don't have any time for my BIL anymore. After the way he spoke to me when we argued, and the assumptions he made about my life, I've no interest in sorting it out now. I need to stop worrying about this all now I think. Thanks to everyone who posted, even those who told me off for reversing! It's duly noted...I won't reverse again!

OP posts:
Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 20:43

Needsmorebeans, it really is. I had it worse in my first pregnancy but it's really making the last stretch very painful. I can barely walk by the end of the day most days.

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diddl · 11/08/2018 21:04

"but at the same time he's worrying about me having a huge bust up with his whole family."

Tell him to stop worrying.

Why would there be a bust up?

Because you won't do as they say provide unpaid care for someone who needs perhaps professional/specialist help?

If they would cause trouble over that, then they're bullies not worth passing the time of day with.

AnnieAnoniMoose · 11/08/2018 21:13

but at the same time he's worrying about me having a huge bust up with his whole family

Oh he is, is he? (Said in my best Miranda voice 😂)

Well, if that’s the case, HE needs to tell them ALL that it is NOT your responsibility to care for a woman you barely know (she’s nowhere near family) because his stupid brother didn’t tell her that it wasn’t possible for HIM to look after her and she needed to go to her parents. YOU are not responsible for her and YOU could do with some bloody help yourself!

So the responsibility for this not turning into a big fight between YOU and his family is his, tell him that quite clearly and firmly.

He’s not far off being as bad as them, so look out for yourself!

As an aside...her parents might be ‘annoying’, but tough. That's life. She sounds bloody annoying herself...demanding to go to his house after knowing him 5 minutes simply because her parents are annoying. How old are these two irritants?!

springydaff · 11/08/2018 21:19

If she is that disabled she will have a care package. She just wouldn't have been released without one. So that just doesn't make any sense??

I'd contact social services to register your concerns - it will obviously be anonymous so you don't need to worry. She should have carers.

As for her not wanting her, or his, parents to care for her - well! I'm not sure she's in a position to be so choosy tbh! When I was very ill recently I had no choice and just had to suck it up. It wasn't easy but being alone would have been impossible so I just had to put up with it.

BIL sounds off his head with the stress but NO it is NOT OK to scapegoat you! Ime you have to aggressively stand up to people like this bcs they are essentially bullying - and bullies only hear and respond to bullying back. No softly softly, it doesn't work with a bully. Let him have it.

Yy I get that isn't easy but you can't continue with this insane situation. He and his parents will continue to bully and scapegoat you, you have to stand up to them.

Your BIL sounds co-dependant - a serious and complex addiction. Not that that's any of your business but it would account for the fucked up family dynamic.

springydaff · 11/08/2018 21:22

There's probably addiction/codependence in the family - it might help to read some al-anon literature (they don't have to be alcoholics).

ShumpaLumpa · 11/08/2018 21:36

I would stop trying to talk to bil.

The whole family sound batshit. Tell DH you won't see them while they continue to try to make you feel guilty.

Do your MIL, FIL, SIL work?

MrsMoastyToasty · 11/08/2018 21:43

She needs to claim PIP so that the money can be used to pay for her additional needs.

ichifanny · 11/08/2018 21:49

What the hell ! Who on earth do you think you are demanding of your SIL to care for your girlfriend ,absolutely bizarre , do you normally just snap your fingers and get people to do want you want ?

ichifanny · 11/08/2018 21:52

Jesus just read it’s a reverse , thank god it was boiling my blood .

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