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Selfish SIL

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Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 16:02

I’m a 37 year old man. I met my current girlfriend just over a year ago. As soon as I met her I knew she was ‘The One’. I’ve had a lot of bad luck with women over the years and never thought I’d meet anyone like my girlfriend. I introduced her to my family who all liked her but within a week or so of introducing her she had an awful riding accident which left her in a coma and the doctors didn’t think she’d pull through. Anyway, long story short, she eventually woke from the coma and was released from hospital 6 months after her accident. She has problems with her memory and can get very paranoid, but her main issues are physical. She’s very unsteady on her feet and falls over a lot (once on top of a child). She needs help showering, going to the toilet, getting dressed, can’t cook or carry a drink. She basically needs support with most tasks and someone with her all the time.

From conversations I’d had with her whilst she was in hospital she’d made it clear that she wanted to move in with me rather than go back to her parents house (where she’d been living prior to her accident) once she was released from hospital. I wasn’t sure about this but didn’t want to be the bad guy when she was still so fragile so agreed to let her move in with me and started trying to find ways to make this work. We spoke about who would help her during the day when I was at work and she rejected the idea of her parents helping her as she finds them annoying. She had a group of friends who were keen to help but it still left a number of days when there was no one around. So I suggested that my SIL could do it as she only worked part time in teaching and was at home the rest of the week looking after my nephew (aged 3).

My girlfriend and my SIL had only met twice before the accident but I was sure they’d get on well with each other so it seemed like the perfect solution. I spoke to my brother about his wife (my SIL) helping to care for my girlfriend. He said they would help out where they could but was a bit non-committal about my SIL helping on a regular basis. He said he’d mention it to her.

Anyway, time moved on and I didn’t hear from my SIL about this at all. My girlfriend had a vague release date from hospital and I started getting worried about who was going to look after her for the remaining days. I was going to speak to my brother again asking for my SIL to commit to certain days and times each week but he told me that my SIL had been admitted into hospital for a number of days (wouldn’t tell me why) and whilst in hospital they’d also found out she was pregnant. Obviously this wasn’t the time to discuss my girlfriend’s care so I left it.

Anyway, SIL came out of hospital and still didn’t bring up caring for my girlfriend (and I didn't mention it) and time has continued to move on. She has been round to see my girlfriend a few times and invited her round to hers on the odd occasion as well as taken her out a couple of times but that’s it.

It’s now 6 months since my girlfriend came out of hospital and it has been so hard. I’m exhausted. My girlfriend is making progress and improving but not as quickly as I’d hoped and I’m still having to do a lot for her when I’m with her. Every week I’m trying to find people to care for her whilst I’m at work so she isn’t on her own and I’m getting more and more angry at certain people for not doing more for my girlfriend. Her parents were very keen to help at the start and were constantly offering support but that has dwindled now due to my girlfriend not wanting to accept their help. Her friends seem reluctant to rearrange their working weeks to come and sit with her and I’m scratching around trying to get people to commit to a routine each week that they stick to. I’m also so angry at my SIL for not doing more. She’s part time and spends the rest of her week at home with her child. She literally has nothing but time on her hands yet still is only offering sporadic support. I’m so angry that I can’t even look at her or speak to her. She’s currently on maternity leave waiting for the baby to arrive and still not offering to help out on a regular basis. I’m so angry that I don’t think our relationship will ever be the same again.

Anyway, am I being unfair to my SIL to expect her to look after my girlfriend on the days that she isn't working. I don’t think it’s a big ask because it’s not like she’s working but someone I mentioned this situation to thinks I’m being very unfair. I don’t think I am. What can I say to her to make her realise how selfish she's being. I don’t want to ask people in real life so thought I’d try here.

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Urbanbeetler · 11/08/2018 17:10

The invalid herself is being very selfish. Her parents may annoy her but she is putting this relatively new boyfriend under intense pressure refusing their help.

Please don’t do a reverse again - they cause such confusion!

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:11

Urban, yes I can see. First and last reverse!

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DotForShort · 11/08/2018 17:11

Why do people write reverse threads? So obvious and so annoying. Hmm

diddl · 11/08/2018 17:11

" But BIL doesn't get this. "

He probably does, but if he can take the easiest route & get family to jump to his demands, rather than pay out/organise what gf is entitled to...

Would she be able to sort out any entitlements/paid carers?

Strawbroke · 11/08/2018 17:15

Who else in the family is going on about this?

AnnieAnoniMoose · 11/08/2018 17:15

🌷. YADNBU

...it’s not you, it’s them.

She could have gone home to her parents - she chose not to.
She could have had more care from them at his house - she chosen not to.

...her choices do not make this your problem.

That’s even without his attitude, which is just incredible. Mind blowingly fucking unreasonable. I’m sure you already know why, so I’m not going to go on about it.

But, you need to stop thinking about him. He’s batshit, the whole family sound dreadful. Concentrate on your DC and make sure your DH isn’t getting too much like them. If he is, get it sorted, if you can’t get him sorted, then get rid. Do it while the DC are very very young and they’ll know no different & you’ll have a chance of raising decent kids and having a much better life yourself.

🌷🍰 it’s NOT you

Takfujimoto · 11/08/2018 17:16

2/10 There's so many of you about today!

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:17

Tbh I'm confused by what help she's entitled to as they're both very vague when they're asked questions. She had people helping her to start with (but not every day) but that seems to have stopped now. My BIL barely speaks to me so don't get anything out of him and she is very garbled in the way she speaks and gets confused a lot so I'm not sure what the situation is with regards to care.

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Iloveacurry · 11/08/2018 17:17

You’re being very unreasonable. You can’t expect friends or your SIL to help on a regular basis. It’s a big ask. You need professional help. I work part time and have two kids. If this was asked of me, I would try to help where I can but couldn’t commit to a regular day. Your SIL is not being selfish, you’re asking a lot from her, especially for someone she doesn’t actually know! Also why doesn’t your girlfriend not want her parents to help if they’ve offered?

Returnofthesmileybar · 11/08/2018 17:17

Well to be fair the girlfriend is a using cheeky fucker too, who moves in with their boyfriend of six months and gets him to be her carer?? So seems they are well matched in the cheeky fucker stakes. Boohoo she doesn't want her parents help but happy for a pregnant randomer, god they are unreal.

I would stop calling at all, fuck them, who needs people like that in your life, nobody. And if he mentions it again say "let's be clear, I want nothing to do with either of you leeches, you care for a child, maybe a parent, but not a stranger and that's what she is and i am about as interested in your guilt trips as I am caring for your girlfriend - not at all! And I really don't give a shit what you think of me because it can't be any lower than what I think of you guys" and if anyone else mentions it "Enough, I will not now or ever care for bils new girlfriend so seriously everyone needs to fuck off with their guilt trips because I am not taking them"

Yanbu

Kintan · 11/08/2018 17:18

This is crazy and you are definitely not being unreasonable. I work part time and am at home with my DC the rest of the time and there is no way I am sitting around doing nothing! Your BiL sounds unhinged to be honest. Has he offered to pay for someone to look after your son during the time he is expecting you to look after his girlfriend? I am glad your son is ok. I hope your DH is nothing like the rest of your family. I agree with pp- send him a link to this thread.

ItWentInMyEye · 11/08/2018 17:20

YANBU You've got enough on with (before mat leave) working part time, having a toddler and being pregnant as well as house stuff that needs doing between you and DH. Absolute CF he sounds, and if I was you I'd have refused purely based on the fact he was asking DH instead of you as if he owns your time! I wouldn't engage with BIL at all if he thinks so little of you.

LeftRightCentre · 11/08/2018 17:20

Tbh I'm confused by what help she's entitled to as they're both very vague when they're asked questions

Stop putting your hand in the crazy. Don't bother tryng to find out what they're entitled to or asking questions, just cut them a wide berth. They're CFers, no big loss.

diddl · 11/08/2018 17:20

"Tbh I'm confused by what help she's entitled to as they're both very vague when they're asked"

Not your problem tbh.

goforthandmultiply · 11/08/2018 17:20

So he'd barely known her at all when she had the accident then? If it's just over a year now and she was in hospital 6 months he knew her less than 6 months but "took on" her full time care? He is an absolute idiot for doing this. He is BVU expecting everyone else to do it, while not making any sacrifices himself. She is BVU to ask this of him in the first place. If she lived with her parents before and they want to help she should be back there where they can support her properly or get in help if needed.

All you can do is disengage tbh. He is never going to understand how unreasonable he is being. Tbh it sounds like they are both as stubborn and self centred as each other. I can't get over her asking this of someone she's known for so little time. Tbh I suspect her parents are probably devastated.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:21

My inlaws have also said things to suggest that they think I should have been doing more to help out. They were the ones who said that "families help family out" with a pointed look in my direction. My SIL has also made a few comments at me as well. They all have convenient excuses why they can't help out themselves though Hmm

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cheesefield · 11/08/2018 17:22

Your BIL is outrageous. Carry on OP, you're fine. You're pregnant, working PT and caring for a toddler. Your BIL is a dick.

Gazelda · 11/08/2018 17:22

I'd not bother talking with the BIL at all. If you feel inclined, maybe you could visit or have text/email convos (depending on her current abilities), but only when the BIL is not there. Your conscience will be clear. Stuff what anyone else thinks. You've offered friendship to a stranger, the rest is not your worry.

Iloveacurry · 11/08/2018 17:24

Sorry just seen you’re the SIL!

Your BIL is being a dick.

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:25

They had known each other for a few months (I think) and only officially started seeing each other a few weeks before the accident. I'd met her twice before the accident- once where we literally just said hello to each other after we bumped into them on the street, and once at a christening where we had a few brief conversations.

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diddl · 11/08/2018 17:25

" They all have convenient excuses why they can't help out themselves though"

Why am I not surprised?

Still, you surely also have excuses?(not that you need them)

DazzlingMilton · 11/08/2018 17:27

Oh God OP. You’re in a right mess, my ILs are the same with this “families help each other out” bollocks when it suits them and they need help or want you to do something for them, but not their help is needed it’s all “no sorry love, we’re playing golf / seeing friends / doing the garden” that day.

Your DH should be sticking up for you here, it sounds like your BIL has been incredibly well intentioned but also incredibly naive. Your DH needs to tell his family that she has her own family who have offered to help, it’s not your fault she won’t accept it.

I can understand why you don’t want to commit too much, if the way you portray his attitude is true then you could quickly be drawn in to more than a day or two a week.

Keep us posted with how things go

MipMipMip · 11/08/2018 17:27

If he tempted to reply to the families help each other out with "Yes they do. I'm going to need help with shopping from now on. In fact all errands- my ankles are swelling and I'm very tired. Shall I start a Rota?"

The bloke sounds a prick.

Mumoftwoyoungkids · 11/08/2018 17:27

They all have convenient excuses why they can't help out themselves though hmm

What - like - “I have a small child and am very heavily pregnant (and soon to have a baby) so unfortunately I can’t help out. If only I could. MIL - you are free on Tuesdays - why don’t you help out - families help each other out after all.”

Nohelp5 · 11/08/2018 17:27

Everyone is right. I won't be giving this a second thought now. I've got enough on my plate at the moment with the pregnancy, ds and we've just moved into a new house and we've still go to unpack. I was supposed to see them all tomorrow but I've rearranged my day and will be spending it with my family instead.

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