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Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)

161 replies

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 06:38

If you hate long posts you may want to run away now. I’m going to be talking about how on every occasion, over the last five years, I should have listened to Mumsnet.

My ten year relationship is finally over. It happened at 4.30am this morning. Sitting here reflecting over what a mug I’ve been has caused me to remember all the times that I put my relationship to the mn jury, and it failing.

This is over many different usernames over the years.

  1. The first time I came upon mumsnet I was sobbing in the early hours of Boxing Day and seven months pregnant with DD.

DP had gotten drunk at a party at his sister’s house. As we were driving home he grabbed the wheel and started screaming into my ear that he knew I’d given his sisters boyfriend a blowjob.

He’s never acted remotely like this before. I was shaking and scared and the mn jury told me to get out, abuse sometimes starts when you are pregnant.

I didn’t listen, I was too scared to be a single parent.

  1. After my csection with DD, three days later in fact, DP got drunk again and shouted obscenities at me and refused to help me at all.

I didn’t post on mn yet at this point. I posted a few months later after dp had repeatedly got drunk and shouted and screamed at me, often while holding dd. He accused me of being a slut and sleeping with the whole neighbourhood when he found one of his own beer cans in the bedroom.

He also had (and still has) isolated me from all my friends and most of my family.

Mn verdict - get out. And as you can probably gather from me saying this is a long post, I still didn’t listen. This went on for a few years before I posted again.

  1. Last year was the worst I think.

I posted, again, in the early hours of the morning. ‘D’p had forced himself on me. I was bleeding.

I actually did get much further this time, thanks to the support, advice and encouragement I found on here.

I kicked him out, I visited a rape crisis center and had care there, an examination and a colonoscopy.

I wavered and did t report it to the police. When dp started messaging saying how sorry I was, and expressing a belief that I couldn’t possibly look after dc on my own because of my disability, I caved and had him back.

But those times were the happiest I can remember. I felt free, happy, like a huge cloud had lifted. It sounds ridiculous but the house was always clean, the dc seemed happy etc. I reminisced about the time he was gone often, and found myself hoping for an excuse to kick him out again.

  1. DP then, this year, did it again. I said I didn’t want sex and pretended to go to sleep. He carried on anyway and I froze.

Again I only half listened to man, and he was back within three days.

  1. More recently I’ve had posts under this username, complaining about more minor things such as DP not letting me have music on I like. But posters still seemed to be able to see through my posts and suggested he had more abusive behaviour than I was letting on/admitting to myself.

And finally, this post. The one where I am finally done.

And, technically, it’s not even that bad a thing (compared to other things he’s done) that has set it off.

I woke up at half four this morning, and noticed dp had not been to bed yet (it’s been like this for a while, he falls asleep sat at his computer playing games)

He always wants me to wake him and bring him up as his back hurts if I don’t.

I went downstairs and saw what was on the screen in front of him.

An extremely long chat over gmail messenger (I didn’t even know there was one!) with a woman a bit younger than me that he apparently knows.

This chat detailed him moaning about his ex (still, after fifteen years he moans about his ex leaving him) talking about our children, calling me fat and lazy (the bloody cheek, he had the energy of an ancient sloth!) and detailing all the dirty things he wanted to do to her.

Is it wrong that I didn’t even really care? If I’m honest I’d lost love and respect for him a long time ago, I just didn’t want to be a single mum.

I realised that I felt happy, and finally all the years of advice on mn clicked inside my brain.

This wasn’t going to get better. This would be my misery of a life until the day I died, unless I did something.

The dc will be fine, I’ll keep it civil (and consult mn) and try to get them through this as smoothly as possible.

With all that finally clocking in my head I gleefully woke him up and ordered him out. I pretended I felt betrayed but to be completely honest he couldn’t possibly betray my trust more than he already has.

So now he’s gone. I’ve drawn up a list of which cards to cancel, what I need to do to get the house in order etc.

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up. She’s even arranging time off work to come on our holiday that is planned for next week!

So yes, I know once this elation wears off I’ll feel weak again. But this time I plan to keep posting, even if just to keep a record of it myself and remind me why I’m doing this.

I just wanted also to say thank you to mn in general and everyone who has replied to me over the years. It took a while to sink in but I honestly believe I wouldn’t be at this point without you.

I have no friends left, so the only people I’ve been able to talk to about any of this has been you nest of vipers. And for that I am extremely grateful.

Thank you Flowers

OP posts:
annandale · 26/07/2018 06:41

[flowers for your new life.

annandale · 26/07/2018 06:41

Sigh Flowers

frenchfancy · 26/07/2018 06:42

Well done you. Print out what you have just written so in moments of weakness you can remind yourself. I wish you a very happy future.

thebird93 · 26/07/2018 06:49

Bless you, you've put up with far too much abuse and deserve better! Be brave, print this off as PP has said and keep it handy for moments of weakness. I wish you love and happiness in your new life 💐

Sugarplumps · 26/07/2018 06:50

The remember your music post. And even on such a minor thing we all told you to LTB! I'm so proud of you, it will be hard but you can do it. Big hug and hand hold. Do reach out to mn for support in future when you need it. We got your back.

theveryhighlife · 26/07/2018 06:54

Well done. It takes a lot of courage to leave. Your life begins again today Thanks

Mogleflop · 26/07/2018 06:57

Thanks well done and good luck!

Can you book some of extra real life support over the next few months? Is there any way you can see a weekly counsellor to remind you/talk things through?

Can you reach out to some old friends and say you've left him and you'd like to try and reconnect?

Rhynswynd · 26/07/2018 06:58
Flowers
Ryder63 · 26/07/2018 06:59

I remember the music post too! very well done on getting rid - keep him rid this time! Grin Flowers

MsHomeSlice · 26/07/2018 06:59

You are moving on, keep going and do not look back.

not unless it is to flick the vees at the useless CUnextTuesday! :o

user1483387154 · 26/07/2018 07:01

Fantastic news that you have kicked him out! I wish you all the best x

DamsonGin · 26/07/2018 07:02

Brew Here's to a life of not-misery. Definitely keep posting, you sound like you've gained a great awareness of when you feel weak (and take him back), make sure you push on past that this time.

NEFink · 26/07/2018 07:03

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up

That made me teary.

Please keep going forward, a whole world is waiting for you & you only get to see it once Flowers

Userloser · 26/07/2018 07:04

I’m chuffed for you.
💖
Have an amazing new life and keep in touch. We’ve all got your back.

oatmilk4breakfast · 26/07/2018 07:05

Agree with printing it out. Well done. I just read ‘The Women’s Room’ and am still in a state of shock - recommend it to you so that you can keep your sense of anger but not start getting into vicious circles of blaming yourself or slipping back into accepting apologies etc. I know people in similar situations and it is heartbreaking trying to help from the sidelines. Very best wishes, Flowers, good vibes headed your way

DorothyBastard · 26/07/2018 07:06

Hold strong Shirley. Read this back when you waver and start to doubt yourself. You wouldn’t treat your worst enemy the way he’s treated you, don’t allow him to do it anymore. You can be free now. Hold strong.

Slartybartfast · 26/07/2018 07:11

indeed - bravo, courage is what was needed op.

Cuttingthegrass · 26/07/2018 07:14

Sometimes you just need it to be the right time to find the extra strength. Your OP is eloquent and thought provoking. Especially as you realise there will be times of hesitation going forward. But you have your vision now.

So get packing and more of the cloud will lift. Start living. Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Congrats

QuarrellingElephants · 26/07/2018 07:15

Congratulations OP, your new life starts here! Remember to come back and read this (or post again) if you question your decision at any point.

And your children will be a lot more than fine, in the long run they will be far better off.

isthismylifenow · 26/07/2018 07:16

Shirley, i also remember the music post as a lot of it resonated with me as well.

Well done and congrats on your new life going forward.

You did get good advice which has helped you to ltb. But I totally understand that each person has to get to THAT point in able to do it. It is obvious to folk outside of the bubble that is what needs to happen, but from inside it is a bit more complex than that. I too didnt ltb straight away after numerous posts of that is what I should do at the time. I honestly think that you get to a point, a realization that now is the time, i am not sure if its just that little bit of strength that takes time to build, or perhaps given him just too many chances to be sure its really the right thing, or ultimately realizing that nothing is ever going to change.

Welcome to the single club Shirley. Grin There will be a few bumps along the road, but I can guarantee you that this is a HUGE turning point for you and the best thing that you could have done.

And have a fabulous holiday.!

Flowers
FYC · 26/07/2018 07:16

You’re not the only one who took years to take MN advice. It was probably about 6 years from the first LTB to finally being ready to. We all have to take our own time to make our own decisions.

I left my xh 8 years ago now. They have been the happiest years of my life. He has tried his best to cause issues, but grey-rock served me well. He is only allowed to contact me about the dcs by email (and I ignore anything that isn’t dc related, so now it’s all about arrangements).

The dc are happy. I am happy. You will be too. There will be bad days ahead, but they won’t be anywhere near as bad as the ones you’ve already survived.

Well done you! MN is brilliant. I was all alone too, except for here. You’re not alone and have an army of women behind you Flowers

dilly123 · 26/07/2018 07:17

This is your time now... being a single mum is actually in the main bloody brilliant.. especially if it comes with freedom from such a vile partner.. good luck.. stay strong!!

rainforesttreeswinging · 26/07/2018 07:19

Print it out and read in moments of weakness or wishing for him back. Allow the weakness/wish to contact him to pass and keep going by remembering you can and will do this for your children, if not for you.

Imagine your dd being with someone like this.....and then distract yourself.

As time passes you will feel stronger and stronger.

New friends, new happiness and a new life awaits you. Well done and listen to the MN nest when we say congratulations on grabbing your life back with both hands from such an abusive hateful man.

You have supporters and friends on here Flowers

Petalflowers · 26/07/2018 07:19

Shiraz - well done you.

L0UISA · 26/07/2018 07:20

Well done you are a brave woman .

And what a great mum you have.