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Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)

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ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 06:38

If you hate long posts you may want to run away now. I’m going to be talking about how on every occasion, over the last five years, I should have listened to Mumsnet.

My ten year relationship is finally over. It happened at 4.30am this morning. Sitting here reflecting over what a mug I’ve been has caused me to remember all the times that I put my relationship to the mn jury, and it failing.

This is over many different usernames over the years.

  1. The first time I came upon mumsnet I was sobbing in the early hours of Boxing Day and seven months pregnant with DD.

DP had gotten drunk at a party at his sister’s house. As we were driving home he grabbed the wheel and started screaming into my ear that he knew I’d given his sisters boyfriend a blowjob.

He’s never acted remotely like this before. I was shaking and scared and the mn jury told me to get out, abuse sometimes starts when you are pregnant.

I didn’t listen, I was too scared to be a single parent.

  1. After my csection with DD, three days later in fact, DP got drunk again and shouted obscenities at me and refused to help me at all.

I didn’t post on mn yet at this point. I posted a few months later after dp had repeatedly got drunk and shouted and screamed at me, often while holding dd. He accused me of being a slut and sleeping with the whole neighbourhood when he found one of his own beer cans in the bedroom.

He also had (and still has) isolated me from all my friends and most of my family.

Mn verdict - get out. And as you can probably gather from me saying this is a long post, I still didn’t listen. This went on for a few years before I posted again.

  1. Last year was the worst I think.

I posted, again, in the early hours of the morning. ‘D’p had forced himself on me. I was bleeding.

I actually did get much further this time, thanks to the support, advice and encouragement I found on here.

I kicked him out, I visited a rape crisis center and had care there, an examination and a colonoscopy.

I wavered and did t report it to the police. When dp started messaging saying how sorry I was, and expressing a belief that I couldn’t possibly look after dc on my own because of my disability, I caved and had him back.

But those times were the happiest I can remember. I felt free, happy, like a huge cloud had lifted. It sounds ridiculous but the house was always clean, the dc seemed happy etc. I reminisced about the time he was gone often, and found myself hoping for an excuse to kick him out again.

  1. DP then, this year, did it again. I said I didn’t want sex and pretended to go to sleep. He carried on anyway and I froze.

Again I only half listened to man, and he was back within three days.

  1. More recently I’ve had posts under this username, complaining about more minor things such as DP not letting me have music on I like. But posters still seemed to be able to see through my posts and suggested he had more abusive behaviour than I was letting on/admitting to myself.

And finally, this post. The one where I am finally done.

And, technically, it’s not even that bad a thing (compared to other things he’s done) that has set it off.

I woke up at half four this morning, and noticed dp had not been to bed yet (it’s been like this for a while, he falls asleep sat at his computer playing games)

He always wants me to wake him and bring him up as his back hurts if I don’t.

I went downstairs and saw what was on the screen in front of him.

An extremely long chat over gmail messenger (I didn’t even know there was one!) with a woman a bit younger than me that he apparently knows.

This chat detailed him moaning about his ex (still, after fifteen years he moans about his ex leaving him) talking about our children, calling me fat and lazy (the bloody cheek, he had the energy of an ancient sloth!) and detailing all the dirty things he wanted to do to her.

Is it wrong that I didn’t even really care? If I’m honest I’d lost love and respect for him a long time ago, I just didn’t want to be a single mum.

I realised that I felt happy, and finally all the years of advice on mn clicked inside my brain.

This wasn’t going to get better. This would be my misery of a life until the day I died, unless I did something.

The dc will be fine, I’ll keep it civil (and consult mn) and try to get them through this as smoothly as possible.

With all that finally clocking in my head I gleefully woke him up and ordered him out. I pretended I felt betrayed but to be completely honest he couldn’t possibly betray my trust more than he already has.

So now he’s gone. I’ve drawn up a list of which cards to cancel, what I need to do to get the house in order etc.

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up. She’s even arranging time off work to come on our holiday that is planned for next week!

So yes, I know once this elation wears off I’ll feel weak again. But this time I plan to keep posting, even if just to keep a record of it myself and remind me why I’m doing this.

I just wanted also to say thank you to mn in general and everyone who has replied to me over the years. It took a while to sink in but I honestly believe I wouldn’t be at this point without you.

I have no friends left, so the only people I’ve been able to talk to about any of this has been you nest of vipers. And for that I am extremely grateful.

Thank you Flowers

OP posts:
thethoughtfox · 26/07/2018 09:02

What an awesome woman you are. You are an inspiration to others.

WillowRose79 · 26/07/2018 09:06

Go you!! My mum was in an abuse relationship- she had 3 young children- all under 12, she did it and we were all so much happier with him gone!!! You've got this!! xxx

TheQueef · 26/07/2018 09:07

It's like stopping smoking.
You can't believe you can do it, until you do it. Then you can't believe you ever smoked.

He may be there in person but you've cleared the fucker out of your heart, head now and then evict the oxygen thief from your orbit.

It's a marathon not a Sprint and you are 23 miles in and that burning you can see is your new life.
[Flowers]

TheQueef · 26/07/2018 09:08

Bunting not burning, that's the old life Grin

isthismylifenow · 26/07/2018 09:08

My stepmother is a nurse who had an 80-year-old patient who looked like she couldn't be a day over 50. My stepmother asked her the secret to looking young and the lady said, "I never put up with men. The moment I was uncomfortable, I just left them. If a man didn't meet my standards, he couldn't pressure me into dating him, and nor could my friends. I spent most of my 80 years single and happy while my friends kept getting married over and over again and they either look terrible or they're dead. Men will suck you dry. I look young and juicy because I never allowed it. Just don't let men be that damn important in your life

Love this!

Ex’s mum has messaged again saying he is there after all, she just didn’t see him

Hmm
L0UISA · 26/07/2018 09:15

Ex’s mum has messaged again saying he is there after all, she just didn’t see him

Is he a Borrower ?

Ledehe · 26/07/2018 09:18

Well done you. This is the first day of the rest of your life. You've got this. This will be easy compared to what you've put up with for years.

Congratulations for a happy and healthy life for you and your children.

Salmakia · 26/07/2018 09:31

I remember getting upset with myself once I'd finally got rid of my abusive ex, saying I should have done it sooner. And a friend said to me simply we leave when we can. And it really helped. This is your when you can time and congratulations on getting there. Best wishes for you new life.

NoLightInTheTunnel · 26/07/2018 09:42

Woohoo!! Well done OP. It does take that 'final straw', that 'moment'. I had mine 5 years ago when I LTB, and I've been very happily single. In fact, I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to put up with a man's shit again.

You will thoroughly enjoy the freedom you now have. There may be moments you doubt yourself, but be strong - you've done the difficult bit. Enjoy your new life Grin Flowers.

LemonysSnicket · 26/07/2018 09:44

VICTORY!!!! Don't let this feeling go OP!

RadioDorothy · 26/07/2018 09:48

In 2 years on MN I have never commented on one of these threads, but I wanted to say that I am happy for you - the relief must be immense!

Enjoy your new freedom. Flowers

pudding21 · 26/07/2018 09:51

Well done on making the final decision, its not always as easy when people say LTB, took me three years to leave an emotionally abusive 21 year relationship. I have been single for 18 months now, finally I feel like my old self again although there is still a way to go.

My advice, talk. Talk and talk. And NEVER blame yourselvf. Congratualte yourself on showing your children that you should never tolerate behavior like that. It will be tough, when you say what kind of a man he is, he will probably try make it as difficult for you as possible. Stay strong, print off this post, and move forward with your life.

Big hugs (())

LimboLuna · 26/07/2018 10:07

Hooray. The first day of the rest of your life.
I think I posted my story on one of your threads (i frequently Nc). Freedom is beautiful, it’s bumpy getting there and it’s cost me and dc financially EVERYTHING. But do you knowwhat, it was worth it to get out.

This thread proves how you won’t /can’t make that jump until your ready. Wine here’s to freedom.

Orangecake123 · 26/07/2018 10:10

I read the whole post and I'm super proud of you right now!

You're not heartless for refusing to be sucked in. Take one day at a time. Post here as much as you need to.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 26/07/2018 10:20

Half way through the post I had a huge grin then the last bit made me cry.
I too was told by mn to leave exh after he posted here about me in October 2011. I left him in April 2012 and never went back. Mn has been here for me ever since.

Op we will get you through this - company, money saving, life hacks, parenting support, cheap activity ideas, talking through abusive relationships everything. And realising I've had all that here for the last 8 years made me cry again.

Exh finds mn extremely threatening. Which is all we need to know Wink

MiggledyHiggins · 26/07/2018 10:24

What do you mean you should have listened. You did. And you absorbed all that wisdom over the years like we all did and that helped the scales to fall.

Your moment was the gmail chat with OW. Mine was over making dinner and laughingly being called a thick cunt because I was doing it 'wrong' and that was the moment I just thought "he will teach our future DC to laugh at mummy the stupid cunt and this will be my life if I let it" and it was there the scales fell.

Ex’s mum has messaged again saying he is there after all, she just didn’t see him.
Best part of this is, you don't have to deal with her ever again either.

Block both of them, turn those tunes up and dance around the room Smile

NewLevelsOfTiredness · 26/07/2018 10:29

Have your music on as much as possible, and if you ever have a weak moment, focus on the fact that having him back would mean an end to the music.

And now... enjoy life :)

SanFranBear · 26/07/2018 10:35

Just wanted to echo a PP about your friends who you feel you've 'lost'.

I dropped a couple of dear, old friends who way pre-dated my ExH as he just "didn't like them" - read as "felt threatened by their success and confidence"..

Anyways - after he left me, I felt so alone and dropped one of them a really short text (had kept his number all the years) to say I was sorry we didn't speak anymore and that I missed him. He phoned me straight away, we spoke for 3 hours and he is now one of my most important friends again. I was 'best man' at his wedding earlier this year.

It's never too late to rekindle friendships - like your mum, they will only want what's best for you and there's a reason they loved you before you distanced yourself Flowers

CrunchieFriday · 26/07/2018 10:38
Flowers

Amazing, amazing lady.

Each time a woman stands up for herself, without knowing it, perhaps without claiming it, she is standing up for women everywhere - Maya Angelou

^ this

YodelOdel · 26/07/2018 11:20

Huge congratulations. You are amazing.

Put your favourite music on and have a dance or a sing. Music is good for the soul (I have just had Steps on whilst doing laundry Grin )

Stay strong. You are worth more than he has ever made you feel. Flowers

mangowango · 26/07/2018 12:23

Moving on up, moving on out. Time to break free. Nothing can stop you.

ICESTAR · 26/07/2018 18:41

Wow what an amazing post!!!

Fannybaws52 · 26/07/2018 18:50

Well done! If you can, seek advice from a solicitor re custody as a dirty rapist isn't fit to parent and he may try to get at you through the kids.

You can also apply for a protection order to keep him away and don't forget to apply for child support! He's had it easy for too long. What sort of rotten beast rapes his partner and abuses her then thinks it's fine to chat up other woman online?! Go for the throat and take his ass down! Grin

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 19:12

Evening all, enjoying a nice glass of shiraz (obviously Grin) and have got some music on.

Dd and ds have actually gone to sleep quite early so it’s a bit strange but I’m quite liking being able to do what I want.

Here’s to being free Wine

OP posts:
ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 19:16

And forgot to say, wow, such a lot of support, thank you all Smile

It’s both saddening and encouraging that so many of you have been through similar and emerged better off.

I’m trying to be more realistic this time around. I’ve accepted that there will be points where I panic and think ‘oh shit what have I done!’ and I’m planning ways to get through those.

My DM has been giving me pep talks all day, and has even insisted on changing my locks herself. She made me cry when she said one day I’ll see what she see’s and will realise I’m worth so much more than I think.

Mums ay Flowers

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