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Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)

161 replies

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 06:38

If you hate long posts you may want to run away now. I’m going to be talking about how on every occasion, over the last five years, I should have listened to Mumsnet.

My ten year relationship is finally over. It happened at 4.30am this morning. Sitting here reflecting over what a mug I’ve been has caused me to remember all the times that I put my relationship to the mn jury, and it failing.

This is over many different usernames over the years.

  1. The first time I came upon mumsnet I was sobbing in the early hours of Boxing Day and seven months pregnant with DD.

DP had gotten drunk at a party at his sister’s house. As we were driving home he grabbed the wheel and started screaming into my ear that he knew I’d given his sisters boyfriend a blowjob.

He’s never acted remotely like this before. I was shaking and scared and the mn jury told me to get out, abuse sometimes starts when you are pregnant.

I didn’t listen, I was too scared to be a single parent.

  1. After my csection with DD, three days later in fact, DP got drunk again and shouted obscenities at me and refused to help me at all.

I didn’t post on mn yet at this point. I posted a few months later after dp had repeatedly got drunk and shouted and screamed at me, often while holding dd. He accused me of being a slut and sleeping with the whole neighbourhood when he found one of his own beer cans in the bedroom.

He also had (and still has) isolated me from all my friends and most of my family.

Mn verdict - get out. And as you can probably gather from me saying this is a long post, I still didn’t listen. This went on for a few years before I posted again.

  1. Last year was the worst I think.

I posted, again, in the early hours of the morning. ‘D’p had forced himself on me. I was bleeding.

I actually did get much further this time, thanks to the support, advice and encouragement I found on here.

I kicked him out, I visited a rape crisis center and had care there, an examination and a colonoscopy.

I wavered and did t report it to the police. When dp started messaging saying how sorry I was, and expressing a belief that I couldn’t possibly look after dc on my own because of my disability, I caved and had him back.

But those times were the happiest I can remember. I felt free, happy, like a huge cloud had lifted. It sounds ridiculous but the house was always clean, the dc seemed happy etc. I reminisced about the time he was gone often, and found myself hoping for an excuse to kick him out again.

  1. DP then, this year, did it again. I said I didn’t want sex and pretended to go to sleep. He carried on anyway and I froze.

Again I only half listened to man, and he was back within three days.

  1. More recently I’ve had posts under this username, complaining about more minor things such as DP not letting me have music on I like. But posters still seemed to be able to see through my posts and suggested he had more abusive behaviour than I was letting on/admitting to myself.

And finally, this post. The one where I am finally done.

And, technically, it’s not even that bad a thing (compared to other things he’s done) that has set it off.

I woke up at half four this morning, and noticed dp had not been to bed yet (it’s been like this for a while, he falls asleep sat at his computer playing games)

He always wants me to wake him and bring him up as his back hurts if I don’t.

I went downstairs and saw what was on the screen in front of him.

An extremely long chat over gmail messenger (I didn’t even know there was one!) with a woman a bit younger than me that he apparently knows.

This chat detailed him moaning about his ex (still, after fifteen years he moans about his ex leaving him) talking about our children, calling me fat and lazy (the bloody cheek, he had the energy of an ancient sloth!) and detailing all the dirty things he wanted to do to her.

Is it wrong that I didn’t even really care? If I’m honest I’d lost love and respect for him a long time ago, I just didn’t want to be a single mum.

I realised that I felt happy, and finally all the years of advice on mn clicked inside my brain.

This wasn’t going to get better. This would be my misery of a life until the day I died, unless I did something.

The dc will be fine, I’ll keep it civil (and consult mn) and try to get them through this as smoothly as possible.

With all that finally clocking in my head I gleefully woke him up and ordered him out. I pretended I felt betrayed but to be completely honest he couldn’t possibly betray my trust more than he already has.

So now he’s gone. I’ve drawn up a list of which cards to cancel, what I need to do to get the house in order etc.

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up. She’s even arranging time off work to come on our holiday that is planned for next week!

So yes, I know once this elation wears off I’ll feel weak again. But this time I plan to keep posting, even if just to keep a record of it myself and remind me why I’m doing this.

I just wanted also to say thank you to mn in general and everyone who has replied to me over the years. It took a while to sink in but I honestly believe I wouldn’t be at this point without you.

I have no friends left, so the only people I’ve been able to talk to about any of this has been you nest of vipers. And for that I am extremely grateful.

Thank you Flowers

OP posts:
Churrolicious · 26/07/2018 07:21

Oh Shirley I'm a bit teary eyed. I remember the music post and thinking how sad it must be to live a life without music. I'm so sorry about everything it's taken tot get here, but so glad your new life starts today.

Wine
strawberrisc · 26/07/2018 07:22

Well done OP. Does your Mum know EVERYTHING?

ThinkOfAWittyNameLater · 26/07/2018 07:23

This a beautiful post to start my day on: a woman finding strength and grabbing freedom.

Huzzah!

Keep posting, we're all here for you Thanks

0range99 · 26/07/2018 07:26

Congratulations. Your happy new life starts here FlowersFlowersFlowers

bessie84 · 26/07/2018 07:39

well done shiraz - keep strong lady

i was you 7 years ago - sounds just the same - even how u describe your feelings. just took 1 more thing n i snapped, like you. im not going to lie, its going to be tough at first. like the toughest ever! but it WILL get better. youve just got to remind yourself, youve tried, he hasnt. remind yourself why your doing it. YOUR happier without him. your children will be happier when mums happier.

7 years later, i'm happily re-married.

all the best shiraz
Flowers

flumpybear · 26/07/2018 07:43

Great move he's been living on borrowed time for too long - well done for being brave Thanks

FolderReformedScruncher · 26/07/2018 07:45

You've got to see it as different again this time. Not only is he an abuser, he is a cheater. Change your reaction this time and separate for good. No wonder his ex booted him out.

MilkshakeMonkey · 26/07/2018 07:47

Well done Flowers

I think I remember a post about being forced upon, ages ago. It’s not always easy to leave in the heat of the moment, you’re in shock, he’s trying to direct your thoughts.

The minute you said playing computer games late, I was expecting porn/online chats. This guy is the lowest of the low and you are teaching your DD how women should be treated.
Your mum sounds great and I’m sure will be a real support. Friends who he’s distanced you from, get back in contact with them. Apologies for loosing contact, explaining your husband was the problem. If I was a lost friend and got a message like that, I’d support you.

Take one day at a time, keep posting on here and stay strong Brew

CaMePlaitPas · 26/07/2018 07:50

Good luck OP, but you don't need it, you'll be absolutely fine. Enjoy your new found freedom and enjoy your holiday Flowers

PurpleFlower1983 · 26/07/2018 07:51

Well done OP! Now you know you can move forward and never ever look back. Don’t lament the wasted time, I believe things happen when they should and when you are best able to deal with them.

Flowers
Ariclock · 26/07/2018 07:52
Flowers
bonitabonita · 26/07/2018 07:55

Well done OP - you've made your mum and the whole of MN v proud of you :)

Kidssendingmenuts · 26/07/2018 07:56

Well done on finally realising you don't need that man! There is so many of us single mums and we cope well if not better than having a man around. You can do this! Xx

ReevaDiva · 26/07/2018 07:59

I'm shedding a wee tear for your mum, who must have waited so long to see her daughter find the life she deserves.

Don't ever ever ever go back!

Well done OP Thanks

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 08:01

Thank you Smile

I’ve just dropped his things off at his mum’s. Mostly because the last time I tried this he spent ages messing em around about his things and used it as an excuse to frequently let himself in to the house.

I have been informed tearfully by her that he hasn’t in fact come there, and she’s worried about him. Oh and that she’s sure it’s something I must have done (yes, she has her charming moments)

I hope you all don’t think I sound heartless but...I’m refusing to be sucked in by it.

Years of him threatening suicide if I left, drama king moments if we ever had a disagreement. I don’t care.

OP posts:
rosabug · 26/07/2018 08:01

Brilliant. Don't feel ashamed - it takes time to get there. Sometimes it's just a case of it's over when it's over. I came across the following comment on a comments thread on The Cut from an article about abusive boyfriends.

"My stepmother is a nurse who had an 80-year-old patient who looked like she couldn't be a day over 50. My stepmother asked her the secret to looking young and the lady said, "I never put up with men. The moment I was uncomfortable, I just left them. If a man didn't meet my standards, he couldn't pressure me into dating him, and nor could my friends. I spent most of my 80 years single and happy while my friends kept getting married over and over again and they either look terrible or they're dead. Men will suck you dry. I look young and juicy because I never allowed it. Just don't let men be that damn important in your life."

Best piece of advice I've ever heard in my life."

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 08:03

Oh and I plan to be a member of the mn single club for a very long time.

I haven’t been single for a good length of time since I was 15 years old. I’ve spend 15 years stumbling from increasingly abusive relationships.

I’m actually looking forward to being able to do whatever I want in my own house.

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 26/07/2018 08:04

Well done OP

This is the start of your new life and you're going to be so much happier without him

FindMeSomebodytoLove · 26/07/2018 08:09

I have been informed tearfully by her that he hasn’t in fact come there, and she’s worried about him. Oh and that she’s sure it’s something I must have done (yes, she has her charming moments)

Tell his DM to check with his new 'woman' he met online, because he's not your problem anymore.

Star for you!!! You've done the right thing by walking away from this relationship. You and your children will be far better off for it! Don't be scared in being alone and a single parent, think of this as your opportunity to create the life you and your children want and deserve!
Best of luck!! Smile

imstartingtogetfitnow · 26/07/2018 08:10
Thanks
DaffodilPower · 26/07/2018 08:11

Flowers for you and your new, happy future!

Well done OP x

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 08:13

Sorry, to answer an earlier point, yes DM knows everything that has gone on now. She knew some of it but not all. I was worried before if I told her everything then I’d ‘need’ to leave him.

I wish they bottled and sold hindsight.

OP posts:
DragonBone · 26/07/2018 08:15

Today is the first step to a better life for your and your dc. Embrace it x and live it ! X

Karigan198 · 26/07/2018 08:16

Pity you can’t post a gif of a whole parade. Well done to you! Before you do anything else write yourself a letter setting out everything he has done and stick it somewhere. When you get the inevitable I’m sorry and denials take it out and read it to remind itself what that arsewipe did to you.

Here’s to a happy healthy future filled with love and respect

Anniegetyourgun · 26/07/2018 08:17

Is it, perhaps, because you never felt you had a good enough reason to boot him out for good? With evidence of cheating you can satisfy not only the MN jury, but the invisible jury in your head. (We all have one of those; it's what keeps us honest for the most part, but sometimes it has funny ideas. Or maybe that's just me...)

There's also an element of "but at least he's my bastard" in these situations. When it's clear he's not even exclusively yours, you suddenly wonder why, why put up with the "bastard" bit? You don't need to feel sorry for him because he would suffer without you, given that he has his next option lined up already. And you sure as hell won't suffer without him.