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Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)

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ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 06:38

If you hate long posts you may want to run away now. I’m going to be talking about how on every occasion, over the last five years, I should have listened to Mumsnet.

My ten year relationship is finally over. It happened at 4.30am this morning. Sitting here reflecting over what a mug I’ve been has caused me to remember all the times that I put my relationship to the mn jury, and it failing.

This is over many different usernames over the years.

  1. The first time I came upon mumsnet I was sobbing in the early hours of Boxing Day and seven months pregnant with DD.

DP had gotten drunk at a party at his sister’s house. As we were driving home he grabbed the wheel and started screaming into my ear that he knew I’d given his sisters boyfriend a blowjob.

He’s never acted remotely like this before. I was shaking and scared and the mn jury told me to get out, abuse sometimes starts when you are pregnant.

I didn’t listen, I was too scared to be a single parent.

  1. After my csection with DD, three days later in fact, DP got drunk again and shouted obscenities at me and refused to help me at all.

I didn’t post on mn yet at this point. I posted a few months later after dp had repeatedly got drunk and shouted and screamed at me, often while holding dd. He accused me of being a slut and sleeping with the whole neighbourhood when he found one of his own beer cans in the bedroom.

He also had (and still has) isolated me from all my friends and most of my family.

Mn verdict - get out. And as you can probably gather from me saying this is a long post, I still didn’t listen. This went on for a few years before I posted again.

  1. Last year was the worst I think.

I posted, again, in the early hours of the morning. ‘D’p had forced himself on me. I was bleeding.

I actually did get much further this time, thanks to the support, advice and encouragement I found on here.

I kicked him out, I visited a rape crisis center and had care there, an examination and a colonoscopy.

I wavered and did t report it to the police. When dp started messaging saying how sorry I was, and expressing a belief that I couldn’t possibly look after dc on my own because of my disability, I caved and had him back.

But those times were the happiest I can remember. I felt free, happy, like a huge cloud had lifted. It sounds ridiculous but the house was always clean, the dc seemed happy etc. I reminisced about the time he was gone often, and found myself hoping for an excuse to kick him out again.

  1. DP then, this year, did it again. I said I didn’t want sex and pretended to go to sleep. He carried on anyway and I froze.

Again I only half listened to man, and he was back within three days.

  1. More recently I’ve had posts under this username, complaining about more minor things such as DP not letting me have music on I like. But posters still seemed to be able to see through my posts and suggested he had more abusive behaviour than I was letting on/admitting to myself.

And finally, this post. The one where I am finally done.

And, technically, it’s not even that bad a thing (compared to other things he’s done) that has set it off.

I woke up at half four this morning, and noticed dp had not been to bed yet (it’s been like this for a while, he falls asleep sat at his computer playing games)

He always wants me to wake him and bring him up as his back hurts if I don’t.

I went downstairs and saw what was on the screen in front of him.

An extremely long chat over gmail messenger (I didn’t even know there was one!) with a woman a bit younger than me that he apparently knows.

This chat detailed him moaning about his ex (still, after fifteen years he moans about his ex leaving him) talking about our children, calling me fat and lazy (the bloody cheek, he had the energy of an ancient sloth!) and detailing all the dirty things he wanted to do to her.

Is it wrong that I didn’t even really care? If I’m honest I’d lost love and respect for him a long time ago, I just didn’t want to be a single mum.

I realised that I felt happy, and finally all the years of advice on mn clicked inside my brain.

This wasn’t going to get better. This would be my misery of a life until the day I died, unless I did something.

The dc will be fine, I’ll keep it civil (and consult mn) and try to get them through this as smoothly as possible.

With all that finally clocking in my head I gleefully woke him up and ordered him out. I pretended I felt betrayed but to be completely honest he couldn’t possibly betray my trust more than he already has.

So now he’s gone. I’ve drawn up a list of which cards to cancel, what I need to do to get the house in order etc.

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up. She’s even arranging time off work to come on our holiday that is planned for next week!

So yes, I know once this elation wears off I’ll feel weak again. But this time I plan to keep posting, even if just to keep a record of it myself and remind me why I’m doing this.

I just wanted also to say thank you to mn in general and everyone who has replied to me over the years. It took a while to sink in but I honestly believe I wouldn’t be at this point without you.

I have no friends left, so the only people I’ve been able to talk to about any of this has been you nest of vipers. And for that I am extremely grateful.

Thank you Flowers

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ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 11:51

Ooooooohhhhhhh fuck.

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ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 12:02

Seriously, fuck.

Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)
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shallichangemyname · 27/07/2018 12:06
Thanks You said a few posts down how you feel elation at being able to do things and make your own choices, followed by sadness that you put up with that life for so long. This is exactly it. You've hit the nail on the head. Keep strong. You do NOT need him. This changes nothing. You can do this!
ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 12:17

Honestly, he ruined both my pregnancy and early baby days by being a drunk, miserable cantankerous twat (yes, I seem to have found my anger this morning)

It’s just a bit of a shock. I thought I was protected against it and it’s already so hard. I’m just torn between ‘Aw a little baby’ And ‘Oh shit. A little baby’.

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Pebbleinthesand · 27/07/2018 12:31

Just gone through and read all the posts. Sounds like you've had a crazy few days. Well done for getting out when you did. Whatever you decide with this new baby, don't let him use it to worm his way back in. Good luck Thanks

Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)
ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 12:39

Would it be wrong if me not to tell him any time soon? I mean, I know iI’d have to eventually but I feel that this would just cause a storm of contact and stalking.

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frenchfancy · 27/07/2018 12:47

No need to tell him until such time as you make it public. It is YOUR body.

I think telling your DM might be a good idea though

MiggledyHiggins · 27/07/2018 13:15

Dont tell him yet. If at all.

Tell your mum.

PolkaHots · 27/07/2018 13:56

Do you want to keep it?

billybagpuss · 27/07/2018 14:10

No definitely don't tell him you can go a few months at least before he's even likely to notice.

ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 14:22

I think I do want to...but I’m also aware that right now it’s not a fantastic time and I’m not really thinking straight. I’m giving myself some time to think about it first.

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ohfourfoxache · 27/07/2018 15:13

Take all the time you need

This is YOUR decision. But it changes absolutely nothing about your situation with him. Stay strong. Please, for the love of all that is holy, do not go back. Please.

ShirazShirley · 27/07/2018 16:26

There is no threat of that at all.

I’m definitely in the anger stage of remembering all of the lies, ruined family occasions, insults and the worst things he did.

The dc are very happy. There is no question that this is what’s best for me and them.

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Brenna24 · 27/07/2018 22:33

I have only just read the thread. Well done for throwing him out and tentative congratulations. The others are right, tell your Mum. Don't tell him until you are all sorted and strong enough.

SandyY2K · 28/07/2018 01:12

Better late than never.

ohfourfoxache · 28/07/2018 01:17

You don’t know how relieved I am to hear you say that.

You know if you did go back you would absolutely devastate huge numbers of us, don’t you?

So amongst all this, how are you feeling? Are you taking your folic acid/vitamins, and are you drinking enough?

Now, above almost all else, you need to look after you.

PeachesPlumsPears · 28/07/2018 01:38

Well done. Congratulations Flowers

Ifeelinclined · 28/07/2018 04:51

I'm so proud of you. Thanks for you and your children.

ShirazShirley · 28/07/2018 09:34

Morning.

Quite a good morning so far. Dd said that she likes 'dancing with you mummy'. So that's cheered me up quite a bit.

Im not making any huge decisions just yet, as I know it's all still a massive adrenaline rush. I'm possibly/likely due a decent amount of money soon, though I can't rely on it until it's here.

It would be enough to finish up the mortgage on this place (it's in my name only, thank god I never agreed to get married) and then I'd like to move. Too many nasty memories in this house, though it's starting to feel more like 'my own'.

Getting it all in order is giving me something to concentrate on.

I think the shock wore off last night. I had a massive cry when the dc had gone to bed. I feel better after it, but a bit drained.

I haven't really been eating to be honest, I never thought I'd forget to eat! I'm going to get some tins of soup in today.

Also some good news. Got in touch with an old friend on Facebook. Turns out that she had also recently escaped a violently abusive ex. We are going to meet up for a drink and catch up after I come back from holiday. It will be the first time I've gone out for years Grin

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ShirazShirley · 28/07/2018 09:39

And yes, I had some pregnacare left from when I was having ds. I started on them when the yes came up positive. I'd suspected I might be before all of this kicked off, but put it down to pms and a possible tummy bug.

I might get some protein shakes from Boots too, as per some of the good advice on here. Thank you. Just don't fee like anything solid yet.

I've also been reading through the back catalogue of the whole relationship board. It's cementing that it will get better and it's reminding me of all the shite that would be waiting for me if I have in to the sorrowful (aren't they always) bastard.

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shallichangemyname · 28/07/2018 10:01

OP are you going to report the rape? They have medical evidence after all. If he tries to wheedle his way back in you need to find a way to keep him away/out.

ShirazShirley · 28/07/2018 10:21

His family are the type (and living close enough currently) to make life very unpleasant for me and the dc if I did that I think.

He's got no chance. I've just started to feel how much freedom I actually do have, I won't get trapped again.

I know it's harder, but I do actually think I'm a better mum to the dc now. I'm happier, more relaxed and we can go out whenever we want.

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MistressDeeCee · 28/07/2018 10:29

Well done OP. No matter how long it's taken, you are here and did the right thing. You've taken your life back from a man who never deserved to be in it.

As for losing friends - if they are/were real friends they'll understand what you've been through, and won't judge you. If they don't want to know you well then, no loss - they weren't true friends in the 1st place.

You're free to build the life you want for you and your child now. New life, friends, hobbies, experiences
Be happy💐

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 28/07/2018 10:41

I remember your thread about the rape last year. I responded and I was so sad when you wanted to take him back - but everyone reaches their limits differently.

I'm so happy for you Thanks there will be hard times; but you're just readjusting. Nothing will be as bad as it was with him. Stay strong and borrow strength from here or your mum when you need too.

Congratulations again Thanks

WellThisIsShit · 28/07/2018 10:52

Well done.

Don’t tell him about the pregnancy.

Don’t let it change anything about your decisions.

Deal with it in a while, when you’ve got some mental space to do so.

You’re going to be fine. Flowers