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Should have listened to Mumsnet...(I think it might need a trigger warning?)

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ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 06:38

If you hate long posts you may want to run away now. I’m going to be talking about how on every occasion, over the last five years, I should have listened to Mumsnet.

My ten year relationship is finally over. It happened at 4.30am this morning. Sitting here reflecting over what a mug I’ve been has caused me to remember all the times that I put my relationship to the mn jury, and it failing.

This is over many different usernames over the years.

  1. The first time I came upon mumsnet I was sobbing in the early hours of Boxing Day and seven months pregnant with DD.

DP had gotten drunk at a party at his sister’s house. As we were driving home he grabbed the wheel and started screaming into my ear that he knew I’d given his sisters boyfriend a blowjob.

He’s never acted remotely like this before. I was shaking and scared and the mn jury told me to get out, abuse sometimes starts when you are pregnant.

I didn’t listen, I was too scared to be a single parent.

  1. After my csection with DD, three days later in fact, DP got drunk again and shouted obscenities at me and refused to help me at all.

I didn’t post on mn yet at this point. I posted a few months later after dp had repeatedly got drunk and shouted and screamed at me, often while holding dd. He accused me of being a slut and sleeping with the whole neighbourhood when he found one of his own beer cans in the bedroom.

He also had (and still has) isolated me from all my friends and most of my family.

Mn verdict - get out. And as you can probably gather from me saying this is a long post, I still didn’t listen. This went on for a few years before I posted again.

  1. Last year was the worst I think.

I posted, again, in the early hours of the morning. ‘D’p had forced himself on me. I was bleeding.

I actually did get much further this time, thanks to the support, advice and encouragement I found on here.

I kicked him out, I visited a rape crisis center and had care there, an examination and a colonoscopy.

I wavered and did t report it to the police. When dp started messaging saying how sorry I was, and expressing a belief that I couldn’t possibly look after dc on my own because of my disability, I caved and had him back.

But those times were the happiest I can remember. I felt free, happy, like a huge cloud had lifted. It sounds ridiculous but the house was always clean, the dc seemed happy etc. I reminisced about the time he was gone often, and found myself hoping for an excuse to kick him out again.

  1. DP then, this year, did it again. I said I didn’t want sex and pretended to go to sleep. He carried on anyway and I froze.

Again I only half listened to man, and he was back within three days.

  1. More recently I’ve had posts under this username, complaining about more minor things such as DP not letting me have music on I like. But posters still seemed to be able to see through my posts and suggested he had more abusive behaviour than I was letting on/admitting to myself.

And finally, this post. The one where I am finally done.

And, technically, it’s not even that bad a thing (compared to other things he’s done) that has set it off.

I woke up at half four this morning, and noticed dp had not been to bed yet (it’s been like this for a while, he falls asleep sat at his computer playing games)

He always wants me to wake him and bring him up as his back hurts if I don’t.

I went downstairs and saw what was on the screen in front of him.

An extremely long chat over gmail messenger (I didn’t even know there was one!) with a woman a bit younger than me that he apparently knows.

This chat detailed him moaning about his ex (still, after fifteen years he moans about his ex leaving him) talking about our children, calling me fat and lazy (the bloody cheek, he had the energy of an ancient sloth!) and detailing all the dirty things he wanted to do to her.

Is it wrong that I didn’t even really care? If I’m honest I’d lost love and respect for him a long time ago, I just didn’t want to be a single mum.

I realised that I felt happy, and finally all the years of advice on mn clicked inside my brain.

This wasn’t going to get better. This would be my misery of a life until the day I died, unless I did something.

The dc will be fine, I’ll keep it civil (and consult mn) and try to get them through this as smoothly as possible.

With all that finally clocking in my head I gleefully woke him up and ordered him out. I pretended I felt betrayed but to be completely honest he couldn’t possibly betray my trust more than he already has.

So now he’s gone. I’ve drawn up a list of which cards to cancel, what I need to do to get the house in order etc.

I’ve called my mum (she’s always up at 5am) and she’s actually come round to congratulate me and to help bag his stuff up. She’s even arranging time off work to come on our holiday that is planned for next week!

So yes, I know once this elation wears off I’ll feel weak again. But this time I plan to keep posting, even if just to keep a record of it myself and remind me why I’m doing this.

I just wanted also to say thank you to mn in general and everyone who has replied to me over the years. It took a while to sink in but I honestly believe I wouldn’t be at this point without you.

I have no friends left, so the only people I’ve been able to talk to about any of this has been you nest of vipers. And for that I am extremely grateful.

Thank you Flowers

OP posts:
BitOfFun · 26/07/2018 19:19

Chin chin, Shiraz! I hope you keep posting whenever you need to x

Thebluedog · 26/07/2018 19:20

Mums are fab aren’t they. I’ve never had a great relationship with mine. But she was amazing when I left my abusive dh. I met him when I was very young and I think he was part of the reason our relationship when south. I’m so happy she was there for me!

Well done OP Flowers you will wobble but also don’t be surprised if you don’t. I think I’d given my relationship everything, and then more, so when I finally kicked him out there was very little sadness

Knittedfairies · 26/07/2018 19:25

💐 for your mum.

lola212121 · 26/07/2018 19:41

Why did you not want to be a single mum ?

confusedmomm · 26/07/2018 19:46

Well done and good luck!!!

Oncewasneedy · 26/07/2018 19:47

You've done it now and the only way is up! I think you've gotten to that point where there is no sadness left about leaving him!
That was where I got to when I left my ex! The sheer joy you are about to encounter is going to keep you going! Just Waking up in the morning Will feel amazing! because a bad day being a single mum will not even encompass the misery of a good day with him! You have your own destiny in hand now, and I hope I don't sound too hippy dippy ...... but anything is possible!
Go forth, kick ass girl and more than anything I hope you enjoy every moment going forward with you and your daughter!

Meredith501 · 26/07/2018 19:54

Well done you! You are strong and courageous and your children are lucky to have you as their mum.

TheClitterati · 26/07/2018 19:58

Congratulations op. You have "detatched". It is very powerful and you can get on Other the rest of your life now xx

RandomMess · 26/07/2018 20:06

You go girl! Well done Thanks

ShirazShirley · 26/07/2018 20:09

I do feel quite detatched from it all, I’m going to take that as a good sign.

Sorry, I wasn’t looking down my noses at single mums. My mum was one and she is amazing.

I just didn’t think I was strong enough. Looking back on it, I only started to feel like that’s round the time dp’s behaviour deteriorated.

I’ve started up a Facebook profile (dp didn’t approve of me having one before - and he hated mn) and have started adding old friends on it. They have started messaging so that feels great!

I’ve started planning how I want the house, I’ve rearranged the kitchen cupboards my way and I’m thinking of joining a gym. It feels like there has been so much life I’ve missed out on because I was scared of upsetting him.

I keep getting new waves of happiness when I realise ‘Oh I can do that now!’, mixed with sadness at not standing up for myself and doing it before.

You know what, I’m going to say it again. Thank you so much MN, I don’t think I’d have left without you, no wonder so many pricks hate you Grin

(Also to anyone lurking that isn’t quite there yet. You will be if you keep reading and posting on here, give it time. And for reference, it feels amazing when you finally break out!)

OP posts:
2018SoFarSoGreat · 26/07/2018 20:24

Shiraz I remember your posts and so hoped today would come. Good job you! Today is the right time. Now you start to live again. To enjoy living again. To build a new life for you and your DC that includes beautiful music, safety and joy. I'm so bloody happy for you. Flowers Gin

Baubletrouble43 · 26/07/2018 20:45

About to raise a glass to your future op, it looks bright. Go you xx

Gemini69 · 26/07/2018 21:00

Ex’s mum has messaged again saying he is there after all, she just didn’t see him

Is he a Borrower ?

literally spat out my tea laughing at this hahahaaaaa brilliant Grin Flowers

madja · 26/07/2018 21:07

I'm so happy to read this Grin
Enjoy your lovely future.

ohfourfoxache · 26/07/2018 21:17

Oh holy fuck I recognise you Shock

You should be bloody proud of yourself. It can take a long time to leave an abusive relationship, but you’ve done it

Ok, practical stuff:
Have you changed the locks?
Have you had a look at what you’re entitled to? www.entitledto.co.uk
Have you looked into the Freedom Programme?
www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

snowbear66 · 26/07/2018 21:19

Congratulations!
Hold fast and don't let him back. You've made the right decision.

nm1989 · 26/07/2018 21:26
Thanks
Hookedoncatnip · 26/07/2018 21:45

Well done. Completely understand why it wasn't easy for you to just leave. You deserve better!

Sally2791 · 26/07/2018 21:47

Congratulations! enjoy your lovely new life

altiara · 26/07/2018 21:56

Go Shiraz!! FlowersWine
Your DM sounds fab. Wishing you lots of luck, stay strong.

whatwouldkeithRichardsdo2 · 26/07/2018 22:24

All the admiration for you OP. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Stay strong. Be super kind to yourself now. Keep contact to a minimum - do only what is necessary.

You are free. Your life can start again. WineWineWine

HannahnotAgnes · 26/07/2018 23:07

Well done Op - you should be proud of yourself. Stay strong - you've got this! Thanks

cricketmum84 · 26/07/2018 23:12

Well done lovely lovely lady! Wine and Thanks for you to celebrate. He sounds like an inter prize twat.

Stay strong!

strawberrisc · 27/07/2018 06:33

Wow! You sound SO much like my dear friend. 10 years with a violent, controlling prick. You wouldn’t know her these days! She too reconnected with friends on Social Media and they were delighted to have her back. Now she’s never in!

OP please make sure your settings are private though x

SortingItOut · 27/07/2018 07:02

You have done so well getting out of this relationship, I remember some of your other posts.

I too told my husband to leave after something quite inconsequential compared to the shit he had done in the past and he has was so shocked as I had never walked away before and it had been going on for years but I just brushed it under the carpet for our DD.

I had been planning to end my marriage on and off for years and the plan had been to wait until DD was 18 - I was lucky that my husband didn't physical abuse me and maybe that made it easier but I can now see that it was an emotionally abusive marriage.

In the past he had messaged women to ask for dirty underwear, talked sexual with them etc and he did it time and time again because I let him.
This time round I was in the right place mentally and asked for a divorce before Xmas - no reason, I had just had enough but unfortunately we were both really poorly for a few months and nothing was mentioned again.

The thing that triggered it this time was that he lost his work phone and I found it under the bed, I hadn't checked his phones for years because I didn't care any more and noticed he had messaged a lady and her message was on the notifications so I logged on and the night before he had asked to take her out.
That tipped me over the edge for some reason and I realised nothing would ever change, he would always want attention from other women so I told him that night he had to leave by the end of the month.
For 2 weeks he sulked in bed when he wasn't at work and I ignored him, I slept in DS' room as he was at Uni but I couldn't tell anyone as DS had exams and I didn't want anything to affect them.
The message only hit home when I saw a solicitor, he then got off his bum and viewed some houses and moved out as agreed.

I still see him as DD stays with him in the week - she is 15 and comes and goes as she pleases between us.

He has not taken this well at all and often tells me that he cant believe this has happened, he couldn't believe that he has done serious stuff over the years and I did nothing but he asked to take someone out and I am divorcing him. (Of course he wasn't actually asking her out on a date, she said she was lonely when her kids went to their dads so he was just offering for them to go out as friends and if she had agreed, which she didn't she just ignored the question and carried on chatting to him about mundane stuff, then he would have told me and we all could have gone out!!! - Dick head!!)

Good luck on your journey - I am loving being on my own - life is busy as we had a smallholding but I run it on my own now as well as work full time but knowing it is only me to please (plus DS and DD when they are about is bliss)
I keep thinking I must be due a breakdown soon, no one copes this well really but then I remember this has been in the pipe line for 8 years+.

Have a fab day!!!!

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