My Dad has split from his fiance - Pre-Nuptial disagreement.

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So last night i got a phone call fromm my Dad. He has split up with his fiance. My Dad is 68 and she is 65 and they met on internet dating three years ago. Basically Dad insisted she sign a pre-nuptial agreement as in the house will be left to myself and my brother should anything happen to him one day, whilst she would have had been left with his Villa in Spain and his pension. She has four elder children, but was living in a womans refuge when Dad met her, my Dad cleared her personal debts, took her on numerous holidays abroad, cruises, etc. She literally has no assets or anything to her name. She apparently kicked off big time and said she would make sure things were done properly in the event of anything happening to my Dad and she refused to sign. My Dad is gutted. He really doesn't want to be alone in this stage of life. Do you think we should tell Dad to put off the pre-nup and let it go or has he dodged a bullet with this one?

Earning £45k pa does not necessarily mean a sizeable pension.

The pension calculators says someone contributing 3% of their salary to pension and their employer matching it could expect to get a pension of £5k pa.

Of course that depends on your father's pension pot and his pension scheme. I just wouldn't assume it's sizeable.

Well there you go. You can see what her gameplan was. He was a meal ticket for her and her children. This is what is wrong with today's entitlement culture. People expect everything given to them on a plate for little or nothing these days. She didn't love him. She loved the lifestyle and the thought of providing for her children. Your dad will do better for himself I have no doubt about that, but I very much doubt she will be able to do better. But yes put the house in trust. Take the issue off the table. It will one thing less for your dad to worry about. As for people making out that selling the villa to be an issue. Its just a case of contacting the local property agent in spain to put the villa on the market. Within the two years the uk house is passed over the villa will no doubt be sold aswell.

She will be back.

She will be back, I'm picturing Arnie in a frock.

My friends husband let her have the house in his will for 2 years but then contested it and she ended up keeping it . The idiots lost everything instead of waiting until she died and they could have had everything anyway . Wills aren't really worth the paper they are written on sometimes .

I meant to kids contested it

The 🙄

Money and property often brings out the worst in people, sadly, even among families.

Another very good friend’s father has said the best thing he ever did was put the house in his kids names after his 1st wifes desth. Seems he had several relationships end once they knew they were never getting the house and he knows his 2nd wife married him for and him and not a piggie bank for her and her kids.

Makes perfect sense Wherearemymarbles - so long as the house isn't seen as an asset of the DC should one of them divorce. I think a Trust would be the way to overcome this.

The house is in trust in which he has a life interest. The kids are very fond of their step mum and i think there is an agreement she can stay as long as she likes. ( its a big old house so she wont want to be there into her 80’s. )

Dodged a bullet, he needs to run for the hills.

Any partner that refuses to sign a pre nup shows their true colours. If true love, the money or assets simply wouldn't matter.

She's going nowhere. . calling his bluff me thinks...

Well she text my Dad over the weekend and wished him all well and invited him over for dinner. He politely turned down the invite. Says he is moving on.

Shes panicking now. Good on your Dad

She doesn't love him and see him as meal ticket he has already done so much for her.

I'm very agaisnt pre nups for first marriages... But when your on 2nd, 3rd etc and have children.. I would accept and give one of I had to marry again.

Your dad has dodged a bullet and if he backs down on pre nip he knows she is with him only for every single part of his estate, the pension the villa were not enough for her to put up with him, he had to give her his family home and my goodness... Even from on here we knows you will never ever see the house or a penny from his estate if he doesn't protect it.

Good on your dad!!

Yeah we spent the best part of the weekend with him and he seems ok. A little bit embarrassed and hurt by it all but he's just licking his wounds. He says he's going to take some time out of relationships for a bit and then perhaps actively get back on Internet dating at the end of the summer.

She loves his money.

Sorry to hear about your dad but yeah taking a breather from relationships is probably best. Hopefully he can find someone decent later on with as much assets or more than he has to help prevent him being taken for a ride.

This attached article happened to a friend of ours, he lost every penny of his Father`s money which was meant to go to him. The stepchildren cleaned out everything and then stuffed their Mum in a council home.

www.dailymail.co.uk/money/pensions/article-5901063/How-fight-step-parent-disinherits-you.html

Interesting article Welshmist I think it's an absolute Cheek people are able to ransack someone else's will. The law really needs looking at in this age of second, third marriages.