How do you feel about lap dance club/pole dancing stuff.........?

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My dh works in a bit of a boyish industry - mobile phones - tends to be bit 'scummy'.

I'd say ohhhh 5 or 6 times now on a night out they have ended up at these lap dance/topless places. At least he doens't lie about it! He says they just want the extra drink. He doesn't get home till about 4/5 in the morning.

I have gently let it be known I don't like it - he says its harmless.

What do you wise lot think? I don't feel like I can 'ban' him but I do feel a bit put out.

my point is...i never heard anyone say "oh that poor fellow, someone has forced him into it".

lp,
womens' things.
dont go there!

we dont need another mooncup thread!

Mooncup is reusable feminine protection, LP.

The strippers I worked with cut the strings off their tampons during that time of the month so they could still wear their G-strings with no bother.

And body makeup. I learned that careful art very well!

You can be pretty bruised on that pole.

daddyj, anorexia is common when children (or adults) have no control over their on life and this is their only way of having some control. Bulimia is supposed to be more related to media images of perfect bodies etc.

Expat, forgive my ignorance but why on earth would you need to cut the string off your tampon to go hillwalking???!!!

I imagine a large number of male escorts that end up having to perfom sex acts on men feel exploited.

But surely strippers are not exploited, because people are paying just to watch, they dont have to do anything degrading.

Well, skid, when you go off to pee in the bushes whilst hillwalking, the last thing you want is a string wet with your urine blowing around in the wind, too. Or better yet, your underwear smelling like piss.

Like I said, I have since switched to mooncup.

I did enjoy how relaxed strippers are around their bodies. It was a refreshing change from the usual PC repression disguised as modesty going on in the US.

brilliant, expat, brilliant, will remember that one

i dont think strippers are exploited, male or female. that's my point.

the thread wasnt about prostitution, or anything else it was about letting your partner watch a stripper.

some people think female strippers are being exploited and i wondered why...as noone seems to think that about male strippers.

That pole dancing is hard work, too.

I danced ballet for 12 years and was a climber and hillwalker when I had a go on it for fun before a shift and I was sweating and the ol' heart was pumping.

nightowl. I suppose it is because of the position of men and women in our society generally - women have always been the group that has suffered prejudice so you can't really make direct comparisons between them, much in the same way racism against white and blak people is somewhat different (not saying that either is OK before anyone jumps me)

Ipanemagirl: the catering industry is one of the worst exploiters of trafficked people around. And it's not the best of industries to work in if you want a living wage, generally, though some restaraunts, hotels, etc, offer reasonable pay and prospects for promotion. I'm in favour of protecting workers' rights and ensuring their safety in the workplace whether they're taking off their clothes or washing up in a greasy spoon caff somewhere. The fact that a lot of peole deal with their own sexual insecutiries by being desperately prohibitive about others' sexual behaviour is neiither here nor there when it comes to improving conditions for poor people, male or female.

skidaddle, thanks for the info. DD is only little but one day I might need to know

That's why MN is here, DaddyJ!

oh gosh daddyj, I hope you won't need to know - just be sure not to take her lapdancing

expat, a lovely swedish girl showed me some body make up tricks that were well worth remembering. she also introduced me to arnica gel for the bruises, ouch!

twas hard work but exhilerating, i'm normally quite shy and body conscious but working there helped me become so confidant in my body image and my bahaviour

but madamez, just because other industries are also exploitative, that doesn't diminish ipanema's argument surely?

The girls where I worked were fab, if you were going out after your shift, they made sure you didn't walk out the door looking rank, that's for sure!

it does unless she boycotts all catering professions too. which i doubt she does

La redoute or Next. Such a hard choice.

so expat you have no views/thoughts at all about the sexual objectification of women in our society? Everyone should just lighten up?

And if you had a son or daughter who stripped for money that would be fine? You'd have no concerns about that?

Ecoute écoute, c'est La Redoute!

Arrrrrggghhhhhh.

Every time I hear someone say La Redoute it brings back unhappy memories of French Radio advertising.

Surely women are sexually objectified as much as they want to be? They can do what they want in the 21st century. They can dress in a cloak or a bikini, work as a judge or a janitor, strip for a living or go to strip clubs for fun.

LostPuppy - Page Three - discuss!

Why does my support of women (and men) who exercise a free choice to work in the sex industry mean I don't have a view or thought about 'objectification' of women in our society?

I don't see where a woman or man who chooses to work as a stripper is objectified in a way they perceive as negative?

After all, being objectified is a subjective term. Some cultures feel a woman wearing anything other than a burka is objectified.

If it is my child's choice to be a stripper, and she is happy doing that, then I'm happy, too.