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Help - is there any other reason? Possible hook ups with men

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futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 14:19

Name changed, occasional poster, regular reader. Sorry if this is long and incoherent (also typing fast as don't have long so apologies for any typos)

Background for context

LTR not married
OH Bi sexual - knew from start - very honest about past - fine. Explained as just a sexual thing, previous relationships all been with women.
2 children - 1 primary school 1 pre school
Own house together
Relationship - apart from normal ups and downs, lovely lifestyle, great friends and family, very social together, financially secure (well apart from the £200k savings he has in his sole savings account) lots of holiday etc
1 occasion of infidelity on his part early in the relationship, not affair just one off, split for a while, he had counselling, decided to get back together as honestly very happy, he did all the right things, complete access to phone, email etc etc
We live around 1hr from where his family and business are

Anyway came home earlier than planned this morning, as I walked in to bedroom OH had jumped up and was making the bed (this was around 9am - own business no set hours). Rolled my eyes and thought he was either 1. Relieving himself or 2. Being lazy and felt bad.

Anyway his phone had fallen on the floor, he didn't see I'd spotted this and he got straight in shower.

I looked.

Last thing he'd done was been on a call to someone but it had been deleted. (Swiped up and could see call log but when I actually went in there, no calls).

So I checked his phone bill. Not done this for years. I don't care if that means I 'snooped'.

Couldn't get the call/calls from today but over the last 6 months (all I managed to download before he was out of shower) there was a few numbers that looked odd - only called at certain days, short calls etc not every day but regular enough. Just had a feeling.

Managed to locate one owner through Facebook.

Single gay man, 20 years older than us, lives and owns a Business in OH home/business town. Has a fab guys account where he advertises a 'glory hole' 3 days a week.

There is NO reason why my OH would be calling this guy. Not remotely work related, not an old friend, not someone his family knows etc

He's calling him for hook ups isn't he? It would be completely plausible for him to visit that area as his business is located there, as are his family.

I feel sick and I don't know what to do. He adores our children and swore he would never do this again. I made it very clear that there would be no future chances. He is very against at what he calls being a 'part time Dad' and would hate to not live with the children. We socialise together, sex life has lows and high (as with small children) but it always good, experimental, passionate.

We've been taking about getting married next year and having another baby. We are planning major expensive work to our house

I'm trying to think of excuses. Maybe he's an old friend I don't know about, maybe this, maybe that. There isn't though is there? It's black and white.

Not only fucking up our lives together it would be awful if we separated, Our families are very close, his business and my job are linked, we share all the same friends. Why has he done this???????

I feel sick, I can't eat, I honestly don't know what to do? Do I call him out now? Do I wait and find out some more info? Do I bury my head in the sand and get myself financially secure. (I work and with his maintenance and benefits I could afford to stay in the house, I would just like some money behind me. As stated 'our' savings are in his account)

Help please I have no one to talk to this in real life. I don't know what to do, I'm gutted.

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yetmorecrap · 11/06/2018 20:50

Sent you a message OP

Zoflorabore · 11/06/2018 20:52

Thank you op, I'm in a great place now but he's still an arse!

Your plan sounds good.
By ticking off each thing you will feel a bit more in control.
We've all got your back, hope you're ok xx

ALiensAbductedMe · 11/06/2018 20:59

Sorry, misread and thought it was after finding out. Sorry.

rumred · 11/06/2018 21:12

Just so you have more information, re your first post, a glory hole is a place, usually someone's house, where a hole is cut into the door and men stick their knobs through. Popular with gay men wanting a no strings wank etc.
Bizarre but true.
Sorry your partner is such a sleaze op. Wishing you strength

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 21:26

Thank you for the further posts.

No worries Aliens!

yetmorecrap thank you. I have read and will reply in the morning. He’s coming up to bed soon so I’m going to have to log out and pretend to be reading my kindle.

Don’t suppose there will be much sleeping tonight.

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CheggarsPlaysPlop · 11/06/2018 21:43

Just wanted to offer you a virtual bit of solidarity. I hope you manage to hold things together. How awful to find this out after such a lovely night. Know that this horrible time will pass...it is unbearable now, but it will be resolved - that may help you a teensy bit in getting to sleep

Graphista · 11/06/2018 22:17

I was a full time student with no income, no right to be housed where I was living and a 2 year old.

I had to keep chasing tax credits/child Ben/benefits to get payments made into my new bank account, to get new claims starting payment etc almost (literally 4 days away from) ending up homeless. My (Tory if you can believe it) MP (suggested by uni to contact him) kicked some arse and got me some advance payments and somewhere to live!

My point being - you're in a better position than I was.

I'd tried to get "ducks in a row" but was wrongly advised on some issues which caused problems.

You have a joint claim to your home, a job that is I suspect bringing in enough to cover the basics, family nearby? For emotional support.

So if I can do it YOU definitely can! And not just survive but thrive.

lizzie1970a · 11/06/2018 22:58

Can you prove in any way that the savings are yours as well? Any text messages from him or emails? Or proof you paid into that account? You must be reeling from the shock. I don't think there is any need to blackmail but he'll surely be thinking of the damage you can do by telling his family so he might play fair knowing that, hopefully anyway.

Zaphodsotherhead · 11/06/2018 23:36

I second a PP - don't EVER rely on him being the 'good guy' and actually paying child support. You can work out all you like that you'll be fine staying in the house (and better off), but if the bastard disappears off the face of the earth (and don't EVER think he won't), make sure that you can manage financially without his input.

Been there, with a guy who didn't pay (for five kids) for over ten years.

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 23:46

As guessed I’m laying here wide awake while he snores next to me. Had a good look on his laptop and found nothing.

No proof I am entilted to any savings unfortunately. The whole situation is just a fucking mess.

Had a good look through all the phone bills. Found another 3 escorts. Only short calls. No idea how many he has actually met. I’m going to try and look at his location history on his phone. I don’t know if there’s any point though as I have more than enough evidence this ‘lovely, kind, generous etc guy’ is just a plain cunt. Apologies for the language but there’s a time and place and this is one...

I will stay strong for my kids and once I have showed my cards to him I will never utter a word to him apart from communication re the kids. And actually for a while I might do that through his parents so I don’t have to see or speak to his smug face again.

Asked me why I was so moody today. Ha the prick.

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Miladamermalada · 11/06/2018 23:50

I think you need to be careful op, because once he realises his sexuality may be revealed to his family he will be very quick to paint you black. That means his integrity as you know it will disappear instantly. I cannot stress enough that who you think he is, is not who he is and you need to be very careful.
I would marry him, I'd play the long game, because he will do one the minute he knows you're leaving.
Get you and your children that legal protection, then dump him for the cheat he is. IMO if he cannot stop being with men, then he is gay as opposed to bi.

Miladamermalada · 11/06/2018 23:53

Popular with gay men wanting a no strings wank etc.
They were brought about by homophobia and gay men having to hide their behaviours. This also contributed massively to the spread of HIV/AIDS because sexual practices were anonymous and unprotected.

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 23:59

I’m not strong enough. And to be quite frank I don’t want to spend another minute looking at his face let alone what could be months.

His family are very wealthy and they love me and the kids to bits. They won’t see them suffer financially or any other way.

It sounds awful keep talking about money but I really don’t need to worry on that front. My family are also fairly wealthy and would support us financially if needed. I honestly don’t think I will need them to, but am happy to report back if I do!

That’s not meant to sound how it might come across but I’m too drained to explain it any other way. I hope those who have said about money understand.

He also has £10k cash in the house which I’m going to move elsewhere so if he starts fucking me around I’ll use that for a while. Probably a bad idea now I’ve written it down.

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futurefallingapart · 12/06/2018 00:00

God I’m dreading this STI check now. What are the chances of me having something ? I’ve never had any symptoms.

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futurefallingapart · 12/06/2018 00:01

Ours were both clear when we first got together and after the last ‘misedemeanour’. Does make me think that it probably was t a one off was it? He probably let it settle for a while then carried on

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Miladamermalada · 12/06/2018 00:01

You do what's right for you future.
I had a situation not similar but as distressing and getting through it is dreadful, I'm two years out the other side and getting back some normality.
Move the 10k 'just incase'.
I don't know how you're managing to lay next to him. You must hate him. xx

chocomomma · 12/06/2018 00:03

Op, i know your not struggling for money now, but think ahead.. dc wedding costs, help for your dc as they become adults? but if it was me id have lost my shit by now - maybe because the 2 of us dont have much savingsHmm esp not 10K kicking around to fall back onBlush ThanksWine your strong so keep it going strong

futurefallingapart · 12/06/2018 00:04

The time before I caught him using fabguys and he had met up with someone. This was backed up by his phone location history and messages I saw. He never denied it. Just cried and promised it was a one off etc. Then made all the right noises. Paid for counselling for 2 months and I took him back. What a mug. He continued to pay as normal while this was happening. We hadn’t long moved in together. Didn’t have the kids then.

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futurefallingapart · 12/06/2018 00:05

You’re all so lovely. Thank you xxx

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Timefortea99 · 12/06/2018 00:06

Will you tell his parents the reason why you have left him? Outing him might make him play dirty with money and support. I would not marry him, I would need to remove myself from him ASAP. Sorry you are going through this.

chocomomma · 12/06/2018 00:06

did he suspect anything before falling asleep? x

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 12/06/2018 00:06

What was the initial incident - a fling or paid for sex? I think you have to assume he's been an habitual user of sex workers/hook up sites for as long as you've known him Sad

futurefallingapart · 12/06/2018 00:07

I will tell them he has been unfaithful and to ask him for the full information. IF I can keep myself dignified. His parents are going to be so upset. As are mine Sad

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Timefortea99 · 12/06/2018 00:09

At least you know his parents will want the best for you. They won’t abandon you.

Timefortea99 · 12/06/2018 00:11

Try and get some sleep. Perhaps on the sofa or in spare room. Say he was snoring and you needed to sleep.