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Help - is there any other reason? Possible hook ups with men

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futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 14:19

Name changed, occasional poster, regular reader. Sorry if this is long and incoherent (also typing fast as don't have long so apologies for any typos)

Background for context

LTR not married
OH Bi sexual - knew from start - very honest about past - fine. Explained as just a sexual thing, previous relationships all been with women.
2 children - 1 primary school 1 pre school
Own house together
Relationship - apart from normal ups and downs, lovely lifestyle, great friends and family, very social together, financially secure (well apart from the £200k savings he has in his sole savings account) lots of holiday etc
1 occasion of infidelity on his part early in the relationship, not affair just one off, split for a while, he had counselling, decided to get back together as honestly very happy, he did all the right things, complete access to phone, email etc etc
We live around 1hr from where his family and business are

Anyway came home earlier than planned this morning, as I walked in to bedroom OH had jumped up and was making the bed (this was around 9am - own business no set hours). Rolled my eyes and thought he was either 1. Relieving himself or 2. Being lazy and felt bad.

Anyway his phone had fallen on the floor, he didn't see I'd spotted this and he got straight in shower.

I looked.

Last thing he'd done was been on a call to someone but it had been deleted. (Swiped up and could see call log but when I actually went in there, no calls).

So I checked his phone bill. Not done this for years. I don't care if that means I 'snooped'.

Couldn't get the call/calls from today but over the last 6 months (all I managed to download before he was out of shower) there was a few numbers that looked odd - only called at certain days, short calls etc not every day but regular enough. Just had a feeling.

Managed to locate one owner through Facebook.

Single gay man, 20 years older than us, lives and owns a Business in OH home/business town. Has a fab guys account where he advertises a 'glory hole' 3 days a week.

There is NO reason why my OH would be calling this guy. Not remotely work related, not an old friend, not someone his family knows etc

He's calling him for hook ups isn't he? It would be completely plausible for him to visit that area as his business is located there, as are his family.

I feel sick and I don't know what to do. He adores our children and swore he would never do this again. I made it very clear that there would be no future chances. He is very against at what he calls being a 'part time Dad' and would hate to not live with the children. We socialise together, sex life has lows and high (as with small children) but it always good, experimental, passionate.

We've been taking about getting married next year and having another baby. We are planning major expensive work to our house

I'm trying to think of excuses. Maybe he's an old friend I don't know about, maybe this, maybe that. There isn't though is there? It's black and white.

Not only fucking up our lives together it would be awful if we separated, Our families are very close, his business and my job are linked, we share all the same friends. Why has he done this???????

I feel sick, I can't eat, I honestly don't know what to do? Do I call him out now? Do I wait and find out some more info? Do I bury my head in the sand and get myself financially secure. (I work and with his maintenance and benefits I could afford to stay in the house, I would just like some money behind me. As stated 'our' savings are in his account)

Help please I have no one to talk to this in real life. I don't know what to do, I'm gutted.

OP posts:
Badbadtromance · 11/06/2018 18:47

Pretend to be ill. Then get your ducks in a row. I've been stuffed by a man,never again.

NotTakenUsername · 11/06/2018 18:56

With that level of deceit I’d be tempted to go crazy detached.
Get yourself married ASAP, you are entitled to half of the assets from your relationship.

Wtfisthis11 · 11/06/2018 19:04

It has to be your decision OP, if you genuinely feel you have nothing to lose and need to confront him for your own sanity I could understand that too, I just didn't want you to risk making things harder for yourself later down the line.

Just one point I picked up on, you're saying you could afford to keep the house on but, unless it's in your sole name, he could refuse to leave and/or force a sale if he has a claim to it. This is the kind of thing you need to think through before you break cover, just make sure he can't damage you any more than he already has Flowers

TheMonkeyMummy · 11/06/2018 19:05

ThanksThanksGin

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:15

Sorry I don’t know how to tag a poster

NotTakenUsername unfortunately this just isn’t an option. There’s no way I could force a wedding so quickly.

wtfistthis11 I know he’s a cunt but he wouldn’t force me to sell. His parents would disown him for a start. We are VERY close to his family. You’ll probably going to say that’s naive!

Alternatively the house is joint owned and we have £150k equity in it. So I would have a healthy lump sum plus decent monthly income - about £2500 pcm this is wages, child maintence, universal credit and child benefit. Do you think that’s workable? Considering on that monthly wage I could afford to pay the mortgage, all bills etc for the house that we are currently in (4bed town house - naice area - new development)

He’s home. I’m giving baby his bottle and he’s cooking dinner. I’m going to feign illness and retreat to bed with baby at around 8pm. Going to bath kids etc now so that will take a while where I don’t have to look at his fucking face.

I’ve got the mine and kids passports, copy of his latest bank statement. What else do I need?

He also owes my credit card £500 for various bits so I am going to pay that off using his debit card that I have access to.

What else can I do? Focusing on the practical at the moment

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category12 · 11/06/2018 19:18

People saying get married - she couldn't get a divorce for a year afterwards, and it's just kinda ridiculous - really going to go through all that, the families, the wedding etc, really ? Hmm

Just make sure you have a good handle on the financial position and his income, and fuck him off.

SciFiFan2015 · 11/06/2018 19:21

A marriage would give OP rights to his pension as well as the savings? Is that right? Could you register a marriage without going through the palaver of the big ceremony?

0ccamsRazor · 11/06/2018 19:24

You are going to need to be the actress of the year Op, you can do it, for you and your dc. You need some time to get your head straight and see what your options are. Start finding a good solicitor whom deals with issues such as yours.

From this point on you can not trust him, he is not a friend at all. The main mistake I see people make is trusting the separating partner to do the right thing.

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:25

I honestly couldn’t. Big families. They’re expecting a big wedding etc There’s no way he’d agree to something quick and small.

We have a builder coming tomorrow to quote our extension. Maybe I should at least wait until he’s paid for the extension? Would mean house value would go up? He’s paying with it from ‘our’ savings.

OP posts:
TatianaLarina · 11/06/2018 19:27

You can’t wait on something like this, you will drive yourself mad. You need to cut your losses ASAP.

Miladamermalada · 11/06/2018 19:31

This sounds awful but I think being cheated on with a man is 1000000% worse than if there had been another woman.
Sexual behaviour has become boundariless and not in a good way. However I wouldn't date a bisexual man-though you never know.

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:31

He’s been at a training event 3 hours away on Friday. That would be a good opportunity to bag up his stuff?

Can I actually do that?

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NotTakenUsername · 11/06/2018 19:33

Do his family know he is bisexual?

AdaArdor · 11/06/2018 19:35

OP, not much to add except you are so strong! Building work is soooo stressful, I'm not sure it's worth it to go through that while separating... But only you know if you can take it for that long, or would rather just tell him to fuck off out your life.

What a heartless bastard.

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:36

No one knows apart from me.

He’s said to me he would never tell his family/friends as he’s too ashamed. That’s one of the reasons he had counselling. To address how he feels about his sexuality.

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AdaArdor · 11/06/2018 19:36

PS - Course you can bag his stuff up! Tell him you know everything and can't stand to have him in the house. I doubt he'll want to stick around.

Wtfisthis11 · 11/06/2018 19:37

OP read this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3257939-Dh-sent-me-a-photo-by-mistake for inspiration on the sorts of things you can be doing to make your life easier, some great ideas and advice on there. Proof of his income and bonus's might be useful for CMS etc so payslips or copies couldn't hurt and any documents relating to the house/mortgage just in case there is more of a dispute over that than you expect.

Great plan for your credit card and an early night (at least to his eyes) is probably wise, you must be in shock so getting tucked up in bed is a good idea. I wish there was someone in RL you felt you could tell but I'll be around if you need someone to talk to Flowers

LizzieSiddal · 11/06/2018 19:37

If he joint owns the house you can’t just throw him out. However after what he’s done he should agree to leave for the sake of the dc.

MissGingerbread · 11/06/2018 19:37

Listen to what other posters are saying. Go for the big wedding. Seriously if he has been shagging prostitutes (male and female) behind your back he doesn't love you one bit. And he was quite happy to deceive you! So be smart about this or you will regret it. Play the game. Marry the fucker. Get your half. And get the hell away from him.

LizzieSiddal · 11/06/2018 19:40

I can’t believe people are suggesting you marry him.

You may get more money that way but it will be horrific to plan and then go through a big wedding, pretending all the time that you live him. It would not be worth the effect it will have on you and your mental health.

cistersofterfy · 11/06/2018 19:40

Ok red flags re. the sexuality thing. I'm bisexual. I was just about to jump in and admonish a PP who said they'd never date a bisexual as we are perfectly capable of being monogamous, but when I read your update about his shame then big red flags about it.

I'm so sorry he's done this to you OP. You deserve so much better. You will get through this.

LizzieSiddal · 11/06/2018 19:40

*love

futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:44

As much as marrying him to get another £100k and future pension related stuff sounds great I honestly don’t think I could go through with it.

Having to continue to be so touchy feely etc, have sex, socialise together while trying not to punch his fucking face in.

Sorry but I’m so angry. My poor babies. Their Dad is a fucking let down. Hilariously 3 of his uncles had affairs and left their families and he is always so judgemental about them. How could they do that to their children etc etc.

Thank you for the link wtf I will use this as reading material while I am in bed with my ‘migraine’.

Thank you all so much. I think I’m going to have to use hear as my only support for the short term. I hope that is ok

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futurefallingapart · 11/06/2018 19:45

Here* obviously. I’ve lost my ability to spell.

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Miladamermalada · 11/06/2018 19:46

Cis I wouldn't date a bisexual man as a heterosexual woman. If I were a heterosexual man I would date a bisexual woman. I don't want to have sex with a man who enjoys sex with other men. That doesn't mean I'm awful, I just don't find it attractive at all.
That being said you just never know these days.

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