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I feel so unhappy and don't know what to do.

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Cajb18 · 23/03/2018 22:04

I feel pretty lost and confused right now. I've been with my husband for 18 years but the last 5 have been really hard. It feels like it has just been one obstacle after another. He's secretive and doesn't share what he's done with his day, people he's seen, conversations he's had. He doesn't discuss his days at all.

He is not able to show any affection, gropes me everytime he comes near me, which makes me feel cheap. He thinks he is entitled to put his hand down my trousers or up my top anytime he feels like it, and gets grumpy when I ask him not too. He is unable to give me a simple cuddle without groping. He needs attention from other women and is a huge flirt. It's very rare we go anywhere without some women catching his attention followed by the sly looks, then the secret smiles start. Which is humiliating for me and I just want to run away from him and the situation. It's the mums at school and our children's out of school clubs that I find the most humiliating the secret smirks from the mums that they know my husband is interested in them. He is also addicted to sex. For the most part of our relationship he hasn't ever let me get a full night sleep and has always woke me up every few hours for sex. It's felt like constant torture. I've felt so tired for years, walking around like a zombie. Making constant excuses to my friends and work colleagues because I cant tell them the truth about what my husband is really like, mainly because I don't want them to dislike him.

I'd finally had enough when I caught him secretly filming me in the shower on his phone. I had a panic attack and told him to leave. After a week I let him back because the kids were missing him so much and he is a brilliant father. We went to relate for a year which helped a little but the therapist was female bad actually said she found hi. Very charming which if I hadn't of hears myself I wouldn't have believed. She was more taken in by his lies and crap than by helping us. Having said that, he did get a little better allowing me to get some nights sleep. He still doesn't show me any affection and I've had enough of his flirting. The humiliation makes me feel so sad, like me and his kids aren't enough for him. I've told him how it makes me feel but he denies doing it and tells me it's all in my head. I feel trapped and lonely, but then I think to myself , am I just been petty? after all it's only flirting, he makes my tea most nights, helps me with the house and kids, and provides for us. What do I do. I forgive him but hate him at the same time for how he is. Do I break up the family and leave him, or stay and put up with his flirting and me living without any affection from him?

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MyRelationshipIsWeird · 23/03/2018 22:34

He sounds awful Cajb I don’t know how you’ve put up with it so long. Counselling with people like him never works, they just use it against you and (as you found out) have an ally in the counsellor.

For your own sanity - and a decent nights sleep - please get rid of him. He can still be a ‘brilliant dad’ when he looks after the DCs, giving you a break and the chance to get back to being you, rather than trapped in this relationship as his sex slave. You deserve better Flowers

Dragongirl10 · 23/03/2018 22:38

OH op how horrible....l couldn't live like this at all, if he is a good father then why can't you seperate ?

springydaff · 23/03/2018 22:40

This is hideous. Your relationship is very abusive - he is very abusive.

Do the Freedom Programme at your very earliest convenience. That should get you straight about what constitutes abuse.

Your children are learning that this is how women are treated. The best thing you can do for them is leave him.

He isn't a brilliant father. A brilliant father doesn't treat their mum the way he treats you. A brilliant father treats their mum with absolute respect and dignity.

Your life with him is a boiling hell. It's unbearable to think you've lived this for 18 years. He is a monster. Please leave him.

PerfectlyDone · 23/03/2018 22:42

That is no way to live.

And it is a horrible role model for you children to learn what relationship are like.

You need to have a long hard think about whether you are prepared to live like this for the rest of your life.
If you don't feel he is listening to you when you try to speak to him, make attending counselling together a condition of you staying in the marriage.

If you were to leave, you are not 'breaking up a family', you are leaving an emotionally and sexually abusive relationship.
Thanks

messofajess · 23/03/2018 22:48

I am reading this with an open mouth OP. How on earth do you look at this man every day and not set him on fire. Why does he think he has open access to YOUR body.

What a vile piece of shit.

messofajess · 23/03/2018 22:49

And a brilliant father doesn't abuse his children's mother

springydaff · 23/03/2018 22:50

Er they've had a year of counselling.

As you have seen, waste of time - and yet another avenue for him to abuse you. Do Not have therapy with him. The therapist, psychiatrist and judge all fell under my ex's charms. Unless people are trained in this stuff they just don't get it, don't realise they are being manipulated by an arch manipulator.

beachcomber243 · 23/03/2018 22:51

It's no life is it? He sounds dreadful and his behaviour sounds absolutely unbearable. He is not a good father, he is a father who abuses the mother of his children and they will pick that up if they haven't already.

You could have a better life without him. He could see the children. He is abusive, manipulative, uncaring and has no respect. You wouldn't be breaking up the family, he has/is already doing that. Tell him to go, you have had enough and your mental health will be suffering.

PerfectlyDone · 23/03/2018 22:52

Oh, crap, I've missed the counselling bit Blush

Ok, he's done a number on you, making you believe he's a 'good father' and providing and that you'd do anything wrong if you left.

The Freedom Program can help you see how much your perception of what may be considered normal has been skewed by living with this level of abuse for so long.

MammaH2018 · 23/03/2018 22:56

Get out and get rid. He’s an abusive prick. He’s making my skin crawl just from reading your post.
Get your life back. Tell him it’s over, he can still be an “amazing father” to your kids, you don’t need to be in a relationship with him, just because he’s your husband doesn’t give him the right to sexually assault you whenever he feels like it (and that’s what he’s doing by the way, the unwanted groping and the pestering you for sex)
Your worth more than being this mans piece of meat

Cajb18 · 23/03/2018 22:56

Thanks for replying, you've just made me cry. Deep down I know your right. But half of him is so caring and sweet, I just wish the other half of him would change. But I know deep down he wont. I look at my kids and they are so happy in there little life's, I don't want them to experience a broken home and shatter their little safe world, but at the same time I'm the one that's sacrificing. Everyday I sit there wondering who he's flirting with today, is it the girls in the shop he works for, how close he is to them, I have no idea because he doesn't mention them. We bumped in to one of them in town and they seemed pretty friendly, that was the first time I knew she even existed as he'd never even mentioned her before, like I previously said he is so closed about his life outside of our home. I wonder which customers he's flirting with, basically who's caught his eye today, the feeling is exhausting and I just want it to go away, I don't like being like this.

And the feeling of dreading going to bed at night, I'm so tired but know I'm not going to get a good nights sleep.

Writing it down like this I realise it sounds awful. I wonder if maybe I'm exaggerating it, but I know I'm not. It's the first time I think I've actually talked to anyone about it as I keep it to myself.

I have a good job so financially I'll be ok.

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Knittedfairies · 23/03/2018 23:01

It sounds awful Cajb because it is awful! He can carry on being amazing but you don’t have to put up with this any longer - get rid.

MammaH2018 · 23/03/2018 23:03

I’m so sorry sweetheart. I know your scared now, it’s a big leap but you can’t live a life like this. Your kids matter, of course they do, but YOU matter too. You should never feel dread at the thought of going to bed with your husband. It’s wrong that you feel this way but it’s even more wrong that he demands sex from you when you clearly don’t want it....
he’s secretive behaviour is designed to unnerve you.
The man is a sociopath.

Yesitsme1 · 23/03/2018 23:03

Your OP made me want to cry Cajb, it's horrific that you've lived this way all that time Flowers I can only echo wise PP's, Freedom Programme asap, maybe some counselling/therapy just for you so you have a safe space to unload and gather strength to leave, and keep posting here, we will support you as much as we can.

springydaff · 23/03/2018 23:04

He could be prosecuted for what he's doing to you sexually.

Call your local Womens Aid and talk it through with them. They are they experts. They will help you.

Flowers Flowers

springydaff · 23/03/2018 23:05

Your kids lives are not hunky dory, really they're not. Something really dark is going on in their home - they'll know that on some level.

springydaff · 23/03/2018 23:08

Womens Aid is anonymous if you prefer. You don't have to tell them who you are (you don't have to tell them who he is).

PerfectlyDone · 23/03/2018 23:10

He is teaching them that pretty much every woman he has any dealings with is his for the choosing, that women have no say over themselves, he teaches them sexist entitlement of the highest order.

ALL children think the way they grow up is normal, normality equals safety for children and change can be scary and unsettling, that does not mean that change may not be necessary and an improvement once the dust has settled.

He is not a brilliant father, I am sorry.

Porpoises · 23/03/2018 23:13

He's sexualy abusive. It sounds awful :(

Cajb18 · 23/03/2018 23:24

In my last post I was only replying to the first post, as I hadn't seen the others. I'm over whelmed by all the replies. My heart is aching and I'm crying, I feel so lost right now. Your right, it has become so normal after all these years, that I do actually think it is normal. He gets moody because I don't allow him to stand there and watch me get dressed ( I won't dress / undress in front of him) he also wants to stand and watch me exercise and instantly starts touching me whilst I'm exercising and gets funny if I stop and wait for him to leave the room (He's great at enthasising that he's closing the door) I'll ask him to stop disrespecting me and tell him he should respect my personal space but he just tuts and tells me I'm no fun, he tells me that at least 20 times a day but when I challenging him, he says he's only joking. He also deflects ever argument we have when I tell him how he is and I find it ends up being me defending myself everytime.

Writing this, realisation is kicking in. I'm going to have a look at the freedom programme and try and find some strength and perspective. Ladies, thank you so much X

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Howlongtilldinner · 23/03/2018 23:24

You’re being fooled into thinking he’s s great dad, he sounds like a bloody bully!

I think I’d smack him one if he woke me every night. Who does he think he is?

It’s hard op but you can’t live like this much longer surely? You will end up very ill if you don’t sort it!

overduemamma · 23/03/2018 23:29

He's treating you like a cheap night out. Please leave him x

Idrinkandiknowstuff · 23/03/2018 23:39

Jesus fucking Christ, another one with the “brilliant father” shit while he abuses the kids mother. FFS wake up.

Cajb18 · 23/03/2018 23:43

I've realised he's speaks to me like a cheap night too, the things he says make me cringe, something that would be said to a lady of the night. I'm also ashamed to say that I've caught him quietly lifting the covers down and might night top down when I'm sleeping to look at my body. I'm trying to put myself in your shoes as if I was reading someone else's post becAuse I know what advice I myself would be offering others. Don't worry I am having a word with myself. I know deep down I deserve better and his behaviour isn't normal.

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Unicornsandrainbows3 · 23/03/2018 23:49

He's sexually abusing you op, I'm so sorry. Please get help for you and your kids. Call WA and consider police too.