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having to meet someone my oh betrayed me with at a family wedding...

179 replies

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 15:07

The person in question very cleverly befriended his then-very-unhappy-and-jealous-of-me sister as a way of staying close to my DH. It was a long time ago and said sister is now transformed and going to marry a lovely man and I am truly happy for her.

But it was a terrible betrayal, just at the point where I had allowed myself to let my guard down and love someone for the first (and only) time. It took us many many years for the scars to fade. The sister's profound unhappiness at the time meant I couldn't really stand up for myself - it would have been kicking someone when they're down.

My oh was only 23/24 at the time but he handled it very badly. He has a flaw in his otherwise lovely nature which is that he cannot bear to be the bad guy and would rather be polite than piss off someone in order to be loyal to me. like I say, the woman in question was very tactical in befriending the sister.

the person is from the place where we met and used that to the full so we "lost" those memories iyswim.

I kept this all inside after the initial awful period but it would come out in anger for years afterwards. Thankfully it faded after the children were born.

I don't know what I'm asking tbh. Does anyone understand?

my strategy will, I think, be to bury my head in the sand and hope to christ my sil does not put us on the same table as the person i would love never to have existed. It's only one day. but it's weird to feel the pain again.

my sil's view (we have only rarely discussed this) is that she is not responsible for my dh's actions and she is, of course, right. She was highly depressed at the time and so even I said that to her - she was too vulnerable iyswim. So my oh tied himself in knots...

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CoffeeOrSleep · 26/02/2018 17:02

Another thought OP, you and your DH have dismissed the OW's friendship with SIL as being about OW being manipulative and trying to get your DH back.

It's been a 20 year friendship, and your DH hasn't left you for her.

Perhaps you need to rethink your view of OW's motivations for being friends with your SIL.

If this does make you reassess and tackle what happened 20 years ago, that might be a great thing for you both.

ChaosNeverRains · 26/02/2018 17:02

And if I were the sil I sure as hell wouldn’t be giving in to demands to seat these people on different tables etc etc when this was someone that my brother had wrongly had an affair with twenty years ago but just at the time when he and sil were getting together and had since gone on to marry and have children together.

Honestly, what a load of fuss over nothing.

Bluntness100 · 26/02/2018 17:05

This is one of the most batshit things I've ever read.

It was at the start of their relationship.
No info yet on how long they'd been together, just they met in one country then op left. He then got with this, then, girl, a family friend.
He's accused of shagging her because he was too polite to say no.
The woman is accused of a twenty year friendship with sil so she can satisfy her unrequited love for ops husband
Op is saying she didn't address it with husband at the time because of sil being depressed. I mean seriously.
Op hasn't even a clue if said woman is even invited to wedding.

It's probably the worst case of jealousy I've witnessed on here. It's jealousy gone nuts. And then some.

Helpimfalling · 26/02/2018 17:16

What I wanna know is is she flying in from abroad if she's coming as she must live abroad

Gemini69 · 26/02/2018 17:17

you anger or distress ....if that's how you still feel ... should be directed at your Husband... Flowers

you make so many excuses for everyone... if you can understand the excuses you make... then you can understand the 'timing' of the indiscretion.... let it go... Flowers

Perfectnight · 26/02/2018 17:21

Twenty years ago! Surely there’s always at least one person at any wedding that you have slept with once upon a time.

fruitbrewhaha · 26/02/2018 17:27

good point perfect
Surely at every wedding the bride's brother will have shagged one of her friends before!

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:42

sorry, I'm back!

"Really sorry but I may be being rather thick but this reads to me like a cryptic riddle it's really hard to understand how you wrote it out unless your dancing around the facts because it's still to painful for you to put into words?"

I haven't spoken about this for many many years. At the time I only told 3 people. DH was about to commit to moving to the UK to be with me so I could hardly tell me family....

it was all really horrible.

so you're right - it is still a struggle but this is very cathartic! I appreciate every response

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andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:43

SleepFreeZone

tee hee!

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andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:46

"Sil is friends with someone her brother shagged behind your back but you never told her that her friend was an OW so when she invited her home you were awful to the woman but still nobody says anything and the whole family falls out with you rather than your DP admitting his cheating and why you might have a problem with OW coming to visit you all... sheesh!"

lol.
nearly. I did end up having to tell. but she was full of self-pity at the time (lonely, etc) and so it still ended up being about her and how she felt. depression, etc.

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TheAntiBoop · 26/02/2018 17:48

Given the circumstances you've described so far I'm not sure why you were so angry with the ow?

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:48

"I have no idea at all what you are talking about"

I'm sorry! just know that you are making me laugh about something that has never made me laugh. ever.

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BadTasteFlump · 26/02/2018 17:49

Surely there’s always at least one person at any wedding that you have slept with once upon a time.

Is there some logic in there somewhere? Grin

I did once go to a wedding, just after my wedding, and one of the guests had had a ons with DH a couple of years before (pre-me). He discreetly pointed her out to me because his twat of a brother was making 'subtle' jokes about her. I wasn't bothered because I had no right to be really - but later on I was in the toilet queue and ons woman started making conversation with me - and asked exactly how long I'd known DH. I was quite pissed and thought it was funny at the time - but I wondered afterwards if she would have told me if we'd 'overlapped'.

So anyway, yes maybe it's true that somebody somebody shagged will always be at a wedding...

Bluntness100 · 26/02/2018 17:51

Ok, so how long had you been together before he shagged her? You say about to commit, so at that stage there was no commitment?

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:51

"There's no fucking way dh or I would go to the wedding and I'd tell SIL why. She's perfectly within her rights to have this woman there, but she'd have to accept that you and dh have the right to decline the invitation."

that's the attitude I should have had at the time.... lesson learnt!!

not sure it would be right at this late stage though. I am genuinely delighted for SIL. It is all unexpected yet also very solid iyswim. The best thing is that she made peace with herself first before meeting lovely fiancee..
she could be a right bitch way back then though.

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Viviennemary · 26/02/2018 17:52

How long were you and your DP in a relationship before this cheating happened. It's getting very confusing.

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:53

sorry for lack of clarity re "polite"

the "polite" bit was later, during the summer of hell.

the sleeping with her bit was just the normal version of sleeping with people.

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TheAntiBoop · 26/02/2018 17:53

I can't tell if you are over reacting or not but given it was over 20 years ago and this woman has been a good friend to sil, it seems unreasonable to say you wouldn't go to her wedding if the ow is invited

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 17:54

"Given the circumstances you've described so far I'm not sure why you were so angry with the ow?"

anti - I wasn't exactly. I was deeply furiously crazily angry with him. It was as if he had shat on his own doorstep by sleeping with someone he'd just introduced his vulnerable sister to and then spent the following summer rubbing my nose in it making me look bad whilst he smiled and was considered lovely by all his relatives.

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MorelloKisses · 26/02/2018 17:55

So you have forgiven him, but not her?

Even though it was him that cheated on you?

Just get him to address the seating arrangements - it’s the least he can do.

Bluntness100 · 26/02/2018 17:55

So how long had you been together op, before you left the country, there was no commitment between you and he shagged her.

It's like ross In friends. We were on a break...

Viviennemary · 26/02/2018 18:00

Why don't you answer the question 'How long were you with your dh before he cheated'. Because that's important. had you only just met. And were you even in a relationship with him.

AdaColeman · 26/02/2018 18:03

Go to the wedding.
Make sure you look fabulous.
Smile, smile, smile, especially at DH.

andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 18:04

oh crikey,

these are great responses and again - I cannot tell you how strange it is to just talk about this. It has had a lot of power over me.

So. You asked how long we were together. I'd had another boyfriend as well. DH knew this. I thought I was young and clever and sophisticated. In fact I was, of course, just shit scared of opening up to anyone (weird childhood, etc) and having two boyfriends was safer.

After about 18 months I finally felt I'd plucked up the courage to grow up and commit to dh and trust someone. for the first and only time in my life.

Then all this happened. And I didn't even know if I had a right to blame dh for the actual sex bit at all. I still don't know if I'm honest.

What I do know is that he brought it home to our doorstep.

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andhardlyanywomenatall · 26/02/2018 18:06

sorry for dripfeed re own checkered past.

but basically I had only recently "come clean" and committed.

I didn't know whether that excused dh's (i)sex. (ii) behaviour afterwards.

my best answer is yes to i but no to ii.

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