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I feel bad, but im losing patience with my Mrs...

138 replies

DadPlaysItCool · 19/02/2018 09:44

My partner seems to constantly be clashing with our 5(and a half) year old... She seems to think that he always responds to her with attitude, or he sounds miserable. Somewhat like a teenager i guess.
Im of the opinion that when he does this. it can be pretty normal for a kid his age. He definetley is NOT a miserable kid. But she clashes with him, ends up losing her rag with him. They get into an argument, and i step in. Or if im at work, i can almost time when my phone is going to ring, after shes dropped him to school, when she can tell me how he wasnt getting dressed, back chatting, etc etc...
she says "i dont see other kids talking like this" "he is miserable, and its driving me mad" Basically laying all responsibilty on his little shoulders... I approach him differently, and get vastly different results. She says "kids behave differently towards dads" which to some extent i agree with. But not totally. I feel that she has completely unrealistic expectations of what, and how a child should be acting etc. I think she sometimes treats him like an adult, instead of a kid.
I have said multiple times to try different methods, ways of approaching situations. Ive tried leading by example. Tried telling her to seek advice away from the home. We could look into parenting classes if she thinks it will help. Yet, the situation blows over, we carry on with life, and end up back in the same place. with little to no effort to change.... Just repeating the same behavior, expecting our child to just "change" ...
Its got to the point where now. When she comes to me to vent her frustrations, and talking bad about our kid. Im really struggling to not shout at her, or even be understanding towards it.
HELP! am i being unreasonable, is she right... Or do i need to need to actually demand she actually does something about it, rather than repeating the same cycle of sh*t.

OP posts:
Offred · 20/02/2018 09:23
Hmm

So EA/bullying is a massive exaggeration of a parent who has contempt for her child but ‘I thought I might show her this thread’ and him losing his temper once at being the place she offloads her contempt about their son turns into him being horrible like your ex?

Riiiiiiigggghhhhttttt

SteamingPistons · 20/02/2018 09:28

I'm the same with my 2.5 year old. The truth is our bond just isn't as good as his with his dad and he just frustrates me a lot of the time, and I don't enjoy motherhood. Maybe she feels the same but doesn't want to admit.

MadMags · 20/02/2018 09:35

Well, Steaming, if you’re mistreating your child as OP’s wife seems to be doing, then you need to get help or leave.

You don’t have to enjoy motherhood. You don’t have to like it. But you don’t get to bully a child because of it.

CollyWombles · 20/02/2018 09:43

@Offred yes pretty much.

OP has come on a primarily female forum to 'seek advice' regarding his wife, who from his opinion is clashing with his child, however he failed to mention a 2 year old ds, his example is of a mum that finds the school run hard and that makes her emotionally abusive?!

Yes he does sound like my ex, I can't help that, it's a fact and the first thing that came to mind as I read through his responses.

I would very much like to hear his DW side of things as I don't see anything on this thread that smacks of abuse.

Offred · 20/02/2018 09:50

He didn’t mention the 2 year old because it’s the 5 year old he is worried about.

He’s not worried about her finding the school run hard, he’s worried that she believes that the child is problematic and should just change in response to her being angry, that she doesn’t understand that she should at least try to change the way she parents him rather than rushing to blame him for being ‘a brat’.

CollyWombles · 20/02/2018 10:04

He also says they have a loving mother and son relationship and struggling with a particularly bad period. She tries to play with the son and the son gets annoyed with her, so she isn't ignoring him. She is phoning OP to vent about her child, quite right, better than venting AT the child.

I cannot see where she is being abusive. Struggling maybe yes, because it sounds like the five year old is going through a bit of a phase just now as presumably she hasn't been on his case for five years!

CollyWombles · 20/02/2018 10:13

To the OP, there also doesn't have to be any reasons for depression. Sometimes people just get depressed, it's not always circumstantial. There is a much higher risk of developing depression from having had a dysfunctional childhood, like an after effect.

I suffer depression every couple of years, the first time I wouldn't accept I was depressed because I wasn't crying all the time. I was angry and easily irritated. Period time, which can be rough on women anyways, is hellish with depression in the mix too. It is worth checking with your wife.

SandyY2K · 20/02/2018 10:57

Fast to blame. Typical mumsnet, would be calling for castration if it were the other way around.

Yep...she'd be told to LTB. He's going to damage uour child.

I think I'll start a similar thread in reverse and compare the 2.

There are an awful lot of misandrics on here.

Pogmella · 20/02/2018 11:05

Yeah I'm totally losing patience with my old man. He takes our two kids to school 3 days a week and always rings me to moan about the eldest. Recently he had a night out with his friends (first in a while, it's worthy of comment) and I took the kids put so he could be hungover so it's not like he doesn't get time to himself. He does most of the housework and life admin as he's at home more. He seems grumpier now his prostate is playing up- maybe I should mentiom this to him, bloody men and their hormones. Should I just LTB?

cook64 · 20/02/2018 11:26

I think she sounds depressed and all 5 year olds know everything and will argue black is white she needs your support not judgement hope she gets the help she needs

Vangoghsear · 20/02/2018 11:32

It sounds like your wife does not understand child development and what is realistic to expect of children of different ages. I actually think you need to start being quite assertive with your wife and tell her quite specifically about her behaviours that you think are not working (criticise the behaviour not the person). Other wise the poor child will only become more miserable.

GallicosCats · 20/02/2018 16:34

Oh God OP I hate to think what you'd have made of me when my two were that age.Blush The number of times when DS in particular had to be forced into his uniform and dragged up to school kicking and screaming (literally) to get there on time because despite having been up since 6.30 he still managed to get distracted by his own fingernails or a random dent in his bedroom wall or needed a poo at just the wrong time....I was constantly marking myself out of 10 for everything I said and did (and getting less than 4 most of the time); I think a performance management meeting with my DH would have driven me to breakdown.

Those who argue that we judge the not-so-great dads on here more harshly might like to consider that mothers are judged 24-7 on everything to do with their kids. Judgement is in the air they breathe. I have never felt more utterly and deeply inadequate, more pathetic and useless than I have been as a struggling mother. I doubt the men on here ever feel that way.

(My DCs are teenagers now and remarkably I get on better with them than I ever did. Grin)

Offred · 20/02/2018 19:27

There is a real difference between being stressed out, getting things wrong and realising that you didn’t handle it in the best way, which we all do, and getting stressed out, being angry with your child for getting it wrong, persisting with doing things the same way and calling your child a brat.

It’s not the getting things wrong that’s an issue, it’s the thinking she is not getting it wrong and the labelling of her child as the problem and frustration re him not changing.

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