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Dating Thread 128: the one without a catchy title

999 replies

RunsforCake14 · 11/02/2018 11:15

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread
OP posts:
pudding21 · 17/02/2018 19:49

I want to send something like ginnys suggestion but I don't think I could........yet.

pog I like it.

How about " yes it's good, sometimes sexy, especially when you say I want."

Once I called him to say about meeting and said " only if you want", and he replied " I want" in his sexy voice. My ovaries exploded.
But I'm chicken shit!

Gamechanger123 · 17/02/2018 20:03

Hello fellow daters!! I am also on board for this thread. I have been a lurker these past couple of weeks but decided to join the dating gang.

I must say kin i am so shocked at your lady. I am a self proclaimed prude in terms of not sleeping around. Never slept with someone outside of a long term relationship. However me and my ex got it on around 3 months in. We were doing other 'stuff' of that manner around 4 weeks in. She is leading you down the garden path my dear. Who she thinks will put up with that i don't know.

Sooo... I have a guy ive recently been dating. Lets call him, mr slim. He's lovely. A gentleman, decent job and easy to get on with. We've had 3 dates this week so far. However.. We've not kissed yet. My issue is (shallow i know), hes so damn slim. I'm curvy and i think it would just be awkward. Me being about 10x his size. I'm a 14 and tall and if he was a girl he would be a size 6. I don't know if i just don't fancy him because hes so slim or I'm scared what others will think. All my exs have been massive blokes (muscles and belly). Any thoughts on this guys?

I also have mr.hotness. Hes 100% my type. Tall and muscles. However were not really on the same wavelength in other areas, just mutual physical attraction. Sighh. Always the way.

RoseGoldRosie · 17/02/2018 20:24

Any tricks for not overinvesting?

As I am so bloody smitten it hurts. Grin

I've only been in two relationships before, and both of them were with awful, abusive men.

This one is so so lovely, and normal, and thoughtful. It's all so easy and uncomplicated. I'm falling hard Blush

I use the app so it's difficult to write back to everybody, but I love catching up with you all. Kin, so sorry it didn't work out. You sound like an absolute catch, and no doubt miss right is round the corner once you sack off the gold digger! Love the text back from mr architect Grin hope everybody on dates tonight has a lovely evening.

pringlecat · 17/02/2018 20:33

RoseGoldRosie If you are truly smitten, it can be really hard to feel anything but!

I find it helps to think back to a similar experience, where the prince was actually a bloody awful toad, thus reminding myself not to get carried away... yet. Or to take a step back and remind myself of the potential obstacles with the man of the moment and to appreciate that although it would be fabulous if it worked out, it's not a done deal because of X, Y and Z. Logic doesn't help all of the time, but it's not a bad thing to try!

If you've only had shit relationships before, try really hard not to get carried away too soon - you might not be able to recognise the difference between a prince and a toad. Give yourself enough time to really see him before you decide to give your heart away.

Tinderella2018 · 17/02/2018 20:42

Pudding do it! At least you will know one way or the other... if you're brave enough ( and I appreciate you have to see him again professionally) then make it really short. How about....'yes, it's great... and sometimes sexy...' Go on!

Game I reckon ( with my limited experience of OLD) that the issue with Mr Slim is you just don't fancy him, end of. Nothing shallow about that. I am usually attracted to big muscly guys - and I worry about them not being into me as I am a flat chested skinny minnie - but I remind myself ( based on the advice here) that I am the prize in this. If he doesn't float your boat then move on...embrace your curves ( lucky you!). Mr Hotness would obviously be a goer if you felt you could just DTD and not worry about anything else.. but sounds as though you do want him to tick other boxes too - so sack ( that's sack!) him off and line up some others instead maybe?

nothing1 · 17/02/2018 20:43

So lovely daters...

After my lovely date on Tuesday with a boy I'll call MrItalian I went to visit my cousin abroad for two days. Was swiping on Tinder (just to entertain myself with the French men) but couldn't get Mr Italian out of my mind! Saw him again today for a day date at a museum and it was amazing. He is so so insanely good looking! We'll be seeing each other again this week and I'm feeling really positive about him.

Question though:
I've got a date coming up this week with a different person (who I've already had to cancel and rearrange once). Do I still go? Mr Italian and I haven't even broached the question of whether we are a thing (it is WAY too soon for that, it's only been a bit of fumbling!)...but I feel a bit funny going out with someone else...

Tinderella2018 · 17/02/2018 20:45

p.s. Does anyone know if that dial a soldier service is more widely available? Loving the sound of that and not at all jealous, oh no.

Tinderella2018 · 17/02/2018 20:48

Nothing Yes! Nothing to lose for the sake of a coffee - keep all options open! ( And I think the advice that Pringle is offering to Rose is also very pertinent to your situation!)

pudding21 · 17/02/2018 20:59

So. I went with.

Glad it went well. Yes, really. Yes, it's good. Sometimes sexy ;)

Omg! Omg! You lot! ;)

RoseGoldRosie · 17/02/2018 21:00

Thanks Pringle, that's really helpful. I'll try and be mature and remember all that. Helpfully, he's not love bomby at all and we're taking things pretty slow. So I'm keeping my smitteness to myself where possible.

Eek pudding! So excited for the reply GrinGrin go girl!

esk1mo · 17/02/2018 21:03

omg he had better reply asap.

im more invested in MrArchitect than my own iron

pringlecat · 17/02/2018 21:14

Oooh. I just had a rather perfect first message from someone. Have replied for the hell of it - I mean, why not? A man who actually reads my profile and who demonstrates a personality of some sort is worthy of a reply.

In the meantime... investigating how Tinder works. It's the one app that I've never tried that I probably should.

NewYear2019 · 17/02/2018 21:23

Come on Mr Architect!!!

Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 17/02/2018 21:30

covermelads and pudding

GIVES ME THE RAGING HORN

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah..has made me laugh out loud on my own some this sad Saturday night !

Bloodyuselessatthinkingofaname · 17/02/2018 21:35

Yes Tinderella could do with that Dial a Uniform thing too Wink

Tinderella2018 · 17/02/2018 21:49

Pringle when you have completed your investigations into how Tinder works then do share - I beg... as I do not seem to be getting it right at all. Saturday night home alone. I rest my case.

And can someone please tell me what the difference is between moose burgers and kitchen worktop? Is it moose burgers on the kitchen worktop?

pringlecat · 17/02/2018 21:55

Goodness, I feel about 452% more shallow already. That didn't take long. Tinder is actually a bit less intuitive to use than Bumble - you need a FB account and phone number to sign up.

I did promise that if I was back on this thread at this point this year I would give it a go, so I shall continue to up my shallowness and swipe away...

PeacefulPoster · 17/02/2018 22:10

Hahaha everyone should have a Mr FiftyShadesofDialaSoldier on standby 😜😜😂

Popple123 · 17/02/2018 22:17

I’ve had a pretty boring Saturday night, messaging a couple of irons and ended up with a date tomorrow eve. Freaking out as he’s the really toned one (and I am not) and I’m not sure why he’d want to meet me? So now I’m convincing myself he’s a catfish.
Apart from meeting there’s no way of validating that is there? How do I not freak out about this?

appella · 17/02/2018 22:36

Lurker here - had some pretty shocking dating experiences lately which I will share in a longer introduction but hello!!

Ps I am also secretly overinvested in the tale of Mr Architect...

nothing1 · 17/02/2018 22:49

Popple just go along! Take the plunge!

pringlecat · 17/02/2018 22:49

Have abandoned Tinder and am messaging tonight's iron. He needs to send a few more messages before he earns a name for this thread! Wink

Popple123 I met a couple of Brits when I was on holiday recently. Looks-wise, the guy was much more attractive than the woman. He was slim and cute, whereas she was larger and had a terribly annoying voice. However, he seemed very into her and clearly saw her beauty in a way I did not.

I feel a lot more confident about myself having seen that particular real life match and am not messaging people I think are in my league, but people I find attractive without any qualifying remarks. Sometimes the looks are mismatched in a couple - so even if he is hotter than you (doubtful), it doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't want you.

Also, I went on a date with a personal trainer last year. He actually wasn't that toned in real life. I freaked out about nothing.

Believe in your own awesomeness!

CoverMeLads · 17/02/2018 22:51

Pog Mr Faraway is a knob. I doubt there was a card too, one of my exes (not Mr Yowzer) was very fond of that kind of gaslighting shit: he said he’d put a letter through my door once and it drove me insane wondering what could have happened to it 🙄 Also said he bought an engagement ring and was going to propose, but had sold it as I wouldn’t take his calls at one point. Lordy I’m well rid.

Peaceful I’m so sorry you had to find out what a fleshlight is 😆 and I want to know more about the ice.....

Val any man that calls you “honey” on first message isn’t going to pan out well. I feel like replying “you are overfamiliar. Many women do not like this. Cease immediately and there’s a chance you might get a date” but I don’t.

Annit I have no clue. It’s a two way thing, attraction, so I don’t get how men say they can’t tell if you are (MrMr did this. I wasn’t all PHWOAR, but I was enjoying his company and would have thought it was obvious I’d like to see him again)or say they are if you couldn’t tell. Odd.

Mystic think it will have been answered, but coffee shop/pub for an hours coffee. And I do enforce that hour and most times make plans to go somewhere after so a) my friend knows I haven’t been murdered and b) if there’s no spark there’s a natural end.
Told Mr Cure that on the phone today. He seemed genuinely gobsmacked “what? Even if you’re getting on and enjoying each other’s company” and I’m like “yes, because it whets the appetite for a second meeting”
I’m sure he thinks I’m bats, but it’s my method and it’s worked for me so far 😉
Ah, am reading on: what Bant said. I’d no more have a stranger in my house than fly in the air. Nor go to theirs. No no no nooooooo.

Ruby have you binned off that guy? How can he ever come home back from that?? Plus I agree with others who’ve said it’s a smokescreen: if you have BV you’ll know about it. And if you’d washed recently (which I think you said you did) then there’s no way. It was an unbelievably cruel thing to say, regardless.
Reading on: what Been said.

Ignoring I’ve now got 3 dates in the diary and am talking to 4 others. It’s not slapperish it’s working the odds 😀

Bloody it does sound suss to me, yes. Keep us posted?

Popple good luck tonight 😀 (argh just seen he cancelled. Are you rescheduling or binning?) and yes, those who were here last summer might remember I was having the same worries as you. I don’t have full length on my profile but I’m upfront with all of them (as Match handily has weight in the “what you’re looking for” bit 🙄) and all 3 guys I’ve got dates with either said “can’t remember what I put now, not a problem” or just “not a problem”.
You know as women we really do a number on ourselves about our size: when I was a 14 and beating myself up about it, what would have put guys off was the “I hate myself” vibe I was emanating. Now I’m an 18 (though working back to a 12 purely to avoid diabetes and a heart attack 💀) and feeling better about myself than I ever have it just seems a non-issue. If you choose the curvy/extra pounds option then they know they’re not going to get someone slim and they do look at that. Just like we look at height 😉
Ah I see StM and Peaceful said pretty much the same: confidence is key 👍🏻 and yes, our issues.

Been I’m glad you’re happy with Mr TC. You will keep checking in though, right?

Vixen ah now I know what MH means in previous posts. I was wondering how mental health fit in lol I’ll have a look at his stuff.

Custard welcome! And I think you just need to add “with you” onto the end of that sentence 😉 or soften it to “things aren’t going to work out between us” then delete and block. I know it’s really hard and you don’t want to hurt the other persons feelings, but leaving any kind of hope with them isn’t fair. And this is a guy you’ve met once; you really don’t owe him anything. Being polite but firm isn’t cruel, it’s kind and frees him up to meet someone else.

Lost if you feel comfortable then it’s fine 😉

Runs I’m sorry you’re having a hard day. Time will heal; it’s just a bugger to get through Flowers

Last did you send it? I like the “things aren’t going to work out between us” as it’s stating a fact, but you don’t have to give a reason. If they ask why and you choose to reply (cos you’ve wished them luck at the end of the message which is a natural close) then you can be honest and say no physical spark.

Sadik that gave me a laugh. No parents or kids to do that to me, but I do have a friend who has a key.....😳

Game if it’s not happening for you with either physical attraction or compatibility then you can’t make it happen. There will be ones that tick both boxes, promise. (Please remind me of this if all my dates are a bust Wink )

Rose wise words from Pringle; couldn’t have put it better.

Nothing I’d go, unless the idea of getting ready and travelling etc etc made my stomach plummet.

Pudding yippee! Am as overinvested as everyone else.

Bloody I’ve got Derek and Clive singing “I’ve got the horn” as an ear worm now Grin

Tinderella moose burgers are served on the kitchen worktop Wink I’ll try and find an explaining post I can copy and paste as my hand is going into a Davros claw with all this typing (iPhone)

Popple breeeeeaaaaathe. And relaaaaaaaax. He might fancy you. He might not. You might fancy him. You might not. You’re just going for a coffee for an hour with someone to have (hopefully) an interesting chat. That’s all it is. No big deal, see? 😉 He might be a catfish, or a flake, or a liar, but he might not and you don’t need to validate that before you’ve had just an hours coffee, right?
If he doesn’t do it for you, you leave. Earlier than planned if you feel uncomfortable; he’s a stranger and at this stage you owe him zilch (other than basic politeness. You might not get that back, but it’s always good to have standards)

Fuck me, that’ll teach me not to read back properly for a mere 24 hours......Grin

ValMc1 · 17/02/2018 22:57

Kin - I would like to be totally blunt but can't - stop holding hands - there isn't any intimacy here - it just for show - there are lots of ladies out there who would love to have what you have to offer without the pretence - move on Kin - she's not the one for you

Popple123 · 17/02/2018 23:12

Wow cover you really had it all covered in your last post! And everything you say makes sense.

I don’t know what I’d do without this thread as none of my friends are in the same boat as me and none of them understand the situ or are available on a Saturday night to talk me down!

Thanks pringle and nothing - I’ll update tomorrow eve... hope it’s not too much of a horror story!