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Partner with views that I find disgusting

135 replies

NewYearNewStart2018 · 21/01/2018 20:05

Basically I have been with my partner over a year, there are things that I am starting to think seriously about, they hold views that I deem disgusting basically.
It came to a head this weekend as we were driving past a group of women in religious headwear, and they made shooting motions through the car window, I said what the fuck are you doing? To which the reply was “well that’s what they do to us” I answered “no, those particular people have done no such thing” their answer “well people from their background do” I just can’t get over how someone can be so ignorant and judgmental. There’s been occasions where some much milder things have come up and not just relating to race. These things have crept up and weren’t apparent at the beginning of the relationship.
This is a dealbreaker isn’t it? It’s actually made me feel quite disgusted towards my partner.

OP posts:
DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 21/01/2018 20:41

intel “cis” is spectacularly offensive. Can you ask HQ if they will remove it from your post?

Theresnonamesleft · 21/01/2018 20:43

Why the need to use derogatory term cis?

But op you are right to dump.

expatinscotland · 21/01/2018 20:44

Dump and block so you don't get abusive texts. If she comes by and starts kicking off, call the police.

DontDIY · 21/01/2018 20:45

What’s cis??

Loz604 · 21/01/2018 20:48

Hmm just googled it. Seem there is a label for everyone. Someone who identifies as the gender that matches their biological sex

TallulahBetty · 21/01/2018 20:49

DUMP. And be grateful that you haven't got kids that he could pass those views onto!

TallulahBetty · 21/01/2018 20:54

Why is cis offensive? (Naive)

Solly76 · 21/01/2018 21:00

I could not be with someone with those views either. An ex of mine made comments about my little nephews who are Muslim. He thought it was hilarious when he said "don't let them come round with rucksacks on". I knew then that he was an arsehole.
My soon to be ex husband developed objectionable views mainly about women and feminism, got heavily into conspiracy theories. I eventually left him.

LemonSqueezy0 · 21/01/2018 21:07

She's being offensive and needs to go. Stand firm and don't go back this time, you will be much happier with someone who isn't such a twat...

Angelf1sh · 21/01/2018 21:09

Of course it’s a deal breaker, why do you even need to ask us?

Intelinside · 21/01/2018 21:09

Is cis offensive? I haven't heard that before. What's the background to it being offensive? Sorry if sounding dim and will remove if so.

Yeah OP said she's gay in a reply.

Loz604 · 21/01/2018 21:11

@solly76 Shock wow I’m almost speechless! Where was his respect? Even if he had those disgusting views saying them to you about your family is even more disrespectful

Angelf1sh · 21/01/2018 21:12

Ummmm cis is not offensive, it’s just a description of someone who identifies with the gender they were assigned at birth. I really have to Hmm at anyone who says it is

balljuggla · 21/01/2018 21:13

Apologies for assuming your partner was male, OP, I should know better than that Blush

Why on earth do some of you other posters think the term 'cis' is offensive?! It's literally just a descriptive word so we have something that means 'not trans'.

Intelinside · 21/01/2018 21:13

Angelfish, that's my understanding of it so apologies if it has connotations outside of that.

southboundagain · 21/01/2018 21:18

"Why on earth do some of you other posters think the term 'cis' is offensive?! It's literally just a descriptive word so we have something that means 'not trans'."

Exactly. Cis is no more offensive than "heterosexual".

ladyvimes · 21/01/2018 21:19

Cis is offensive as it implies that someone who is born female is not a woman but a cis woman. My SEX at birth (which has nothing to do with gender) was female and so I am a woman NOT a cis-woman.

Angelf1sh · 21/01/2018 21:20

It doesn’t Intel, some people are just weird and claim it’s a slur, but it’s clearly not.

Loz604 · 21/01/2018 21:20

Had not come across the term until this post.

Been having a look up on it....

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5598113

www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/378511/cis-ridiculous-christine-sisto

Intelinside · 21/01/2018 21:23

I do understand the difference between sex and gender. I am not trans, therefore I'm cis. I'm not a person who is disabled, so I'm a person who is able-bodied. I'm not homosexual but I'm hetereosexual (as much as we all are Wink). Aren't these the same?

Anywho, genuinely sorry to offend. I'll do some reading and I'll stop derailing the thread, sorry OP.

Intelinside · 21/01/2018 21:25

I read the same huffpost article but I find it confused and it isn't a great article. The journalist seems to find it offensive because gay men are discriminated against? I don't think that has convinced me.

ladyvimes · 21/01/2018 21:25

Intel those are clearly defined terms that mean specific things. If you are female and not trans then you are a woman. No other description is necessary.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 21/01/2018 21:27

If cis is "literally just a descriptive word" then I guess you have no problem with "trans identified male" oe "male bodies person" instead of "transwoman"?

Just a descriptive word, what's your problem? Hmm

Words have meanings. Words to do with identity should not be forced onto people if they say clearly, they find them offensive. It's not up to you to tell me what words I find offensive to describe me.

Cis implies that anyone who isn't trans is comfortable with their gender, which is not true for many women. It goes with an ideology that defines women as privileged for simply being women, and less oppressed than transwomen who should be centred (i.e. given the platform while everyone else STFU).

It is part of an ideology that is a genuine threat to women's rights and the kind of people who use the word cis include a large minority of misogynists who post violent threats and abuse towards women online, such as "suck my lady dick" or "die in a fire" to young lesbians who dare to say they don't want to sleep with "women" with dicks. (Anyone who thinks I'm making this up, google cotton ceiling).

So yes, cis is offensive. I reject the label. I'm not cis.

MrsJayy · 21/01/2018 21:27

She sounds unhinged and you are probably well rid of her the relationship sounds frightening.

AssassinatedBeauty · 21/01/2018 21:27

No they're not the same. "Cis" is used to describe someone whose "gender identity" is the same as their sex, and who is happy with their gender role. Many women don't have a gender identity and instead believe that gender is a harmful construct used to discriminate and control women. To suggest that you're happy with that is offensive.