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Found out DH is bisexual and a liar - can I ever be happy with him?

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eskimomama · 11/12/2017 17:26

DH and I have been together 10 years, we have a DD who has severe autism. I'm a SAH mom to be full time carer of DD, I do 99% of the childcare and household chores, while he's busy being the breadwinner and full time complainer.
First of all I must say I have been madly in love with this guy, I really loved him and still do, so what will follow is really a huge shock to my system.

2 months ago I discovered that DH was bisexual, because he had gay porn on the computer and gay chat apps on his phone. It was a massive shock to me as I had absolutely no idea. I know nothing about bisexuality so first I thought he was a repressed gay and I had just been used as a cover for his need to conform.
It caused me massive anxiety and had to confront him after 5 days, I forced him to admit it. It was a very emotional talk where he promised he never cheated, would never cheat or do anything to hurt me or DD or destabilise our little family. I trusted him, he really sounded sincere.

Yet just a few weeks later I started having negative thoughts again, I spied his phone again and was horrified by what I found : he had contacted a male prostitute!! He wrote to him "my wife agreed that this would be my outlet"!! To which the guy replied if I wanted to participate and he answered "probably not if ever, sorry"... WTF!!

How could he promise to be faithful with big tears in his eyes and 3 weeks later contact a male hooker???

I had to confront him again, I didn't mention the spying and what I discovered, but said I had had a very bad gut feeling and wanted him to reassure me he wouldn't cheat. He got angry and aggressive, saying "will I have to repeat the same thing over and over again for the rest of my life"... I told what I thought of promiscuous gay sex behind my back, told him to look me in the eyes and tell me the truth : He looked me straight in the eyes, his face didn't twitch, his eyes didn't blink and he LIED to me. He said he wasn't planning to cheat and that I should calm down. That's what I wanted to hear but I knew it was a lie, what an AWFUL feeling.
On top of that he started mixing up all our problems : special needs child, isolation because of it, he said "we don't have a relationship" bla bla bla, to which I said it was very offensive and unfair to me, as well as sounding like he wanted to justify future cheating.
(for what it's worth we have sex 4-5 times a month)

The next day he had deleted the chat with the prostitute on his phone. Which at this stage doesn't mean anything to me. I'd say only 50% chance he didn't meet him.
I told him I'd be ruthless if I found out he has cheated and exposed me to STDs.
I do NOT think he gets the point.

How did I end up with a man who is completely different to what I thought? On the outside he's mister charmer, everybody loves him and finds him kind and caring. His family would never believe it.

I've been reading lots about bisexuality and I just can't make up my mind. I can hardly find any husband with some sort of mental stability. I find 3 types of marriages :

  • those where the wife allows the husband to have sex with men every now and then or simply an open marriage both sides : totally NOT for me. I just cannot bear the thought and can't believe that's what he wanted all along
  • those who split because the bi husband just cannot live without gay sex, even though he knows his sexual urge will destroy his family
  • those who stay together because the husband has made a rational, conscious decision that his family is worth more than casual sex for the rest of his life, and is happy to stay monogamous - those seem very rare.

I need some help. I haven't told anybody and I am lost, and extremely anxious, which I really don't need as my stress levels with DD are already sky high.
Please don't tell me to just dump him because I am financially dependent on him and that would really not be easy. Maybe I will have to but I want to explore other options first.

Is there any hope that I can make him realise he just wants to have his cake and eat it? And that he is seriously hurting me and making me massively insecure?
In all evidence he says one thing and thinks another, so I can't have such conversations anymore.
Does anyone have experience with this kind of crap?

thank you

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WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 14/12/2017 10:04

speckledduck You're missing the point spectacularly, though. You're equating his bisexuality to his cheating, but they're two entirely separate things.

Being bisexual does not make you more likely to cheat.

Your husband cheated because he's a cheater, not because he's bisexual. It's important you separate the two things and note the difference.

Sexuality plays no part in how likely someone is to cheat. What does play a part is how much of a scumbag they are.

eskimomama · 14/12/2017 10:11

My head does feel like a washing machine alright.
speckledduck I am so sorry, you are right to never forgive hom, and I hope you're not alone in this. I'm realising this crap takes so much of the energy I should be spending on my lovely DD instead, who needs me much more.
keep in touch by PM if you wish to.

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stitchglitched · 14/12/2017 10:12

Speckledduck hasn't said that all bisexuals cheat, but that it was the reason for her husband to cheat. She is perfectly entitled to that perspective having lived through it.

speckledduck · 14/12/2017 10:13

We will have to agree to disagree on that one. If he'd have cheated with women I'd agree with you but he didn't, he actively sought out men. Nothing I did in our marriage would have made a difference other than me having a sex change!

His bisexuality or me not fulfilling his sexual needs because of his bisexuality have bought us to the point we are at.

I haven't got a clue if he'd have cheated anyway if he was straight, I'll never get the answer to that question because he isn't straight.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 14/12/2017 10:20

Speckledduck hasn't said that all bisexuals cheat, but that it was the reason for her husband to cheat.

And I shall repeat: he cheated because he's a cheater, not because he's bisexual.

speckledduck He's a cheater; regardless of sexuality. He cheated and he chose a man to cheat with, because he's bisexual and attracted to both genders. He didn't cheat because he's bisexual, he cheated because he's a cheater.

SandyY2K · 14/12/2017 10:24

Not wanting to be in an intimate sexual relationship with someone who is bisexual...does not constitute homophobia.

I do not have a dislike or prejudice against gay people ... that's the definition of homophobia

What I don't like is a man who deliberately withholds information, that can have a serious effect on my health. He's talking away my choice.

Be honest and then know you have a woman in full possession of the facts before embarking on a lifetime union.

Just like not wanting to date/marry/ be in a relationship with someone of a different race, doesn't constitute racism.

Any honest stand up person (male or female) would tell the truth about something as significant as this.

speckledduck · 14/12/2017 10:38

Eskimo have you told anyone in real life yet?

wildbluebelles · 14/12/2017 11:02

Just like not wanting to date/marry/ be in a relationship with someone of a different race, doesn't constitute racism

But surely if you say that you will only date a white person, you ARE racist? You are making a choice based solely on someone's race rather than their personal characteristics. If someone told you they were going to set you up with someone and you said no because you found out the person in question is black, before even meeting them, that would be racism? Obviously nobody has an obligation to date anyone they don't want to, but that does not mean that their motivations are not racist/homophobic or whatever.

WantingMuchMore · 14/12/2017 11:24

Sandy,

What I don't like is a man who deliberately withholds information, that can have a serious effect on my health. He's talking away my choice.

His being bisexual does not equate to having a serious effect on your health. Not all bisexual people are diseased you know! Him being a cheater may well have an affect but women have STDs too and so even a heterosexual cheater COULD place you at risk.

ArcheryAnnie · 14/12/2017 11:35

I am bisexual. I have no problem with, for example, lesbians who only want to go out with other lesbians and therefore exclude me from their dating pool.

Nobody owes anyone else the right to include them in their dating pool. Perhaps some people who don't wish to date bisexuals are doing it for homophobic reasons, but I don't think necessarily all do. And it doesn't matter how ludicrous any of us think the reasons for not including a category in our dating pools - it's everyone's right to define their sexual boundaries for themselves.

ArcheryAnnie · 14/12/2017 11:37

What I don't like is a man who deliberately withholds information, that can have a serious effect on my health. He's talking away my choice.

Agree with Wanting - someone who withholds information is taking away your choice, but it has no relevance to your health at all. Straight men who have practiced unsafe sex are every bit a risk to you as gay or bi men who have practiced unsafe sex.

stitchglitched · 14/12/2017 12:03

I don't think it's entirely true to say that the risk to health is completely equal as female to male transmission of certain diseases is alot rarer than male to male transmission. That doesn't equate to all bi or gay men being diseased, but an acknowledgement that certain unprotected acts have higher rates of transmission than others.

eskimomama · 14/12/2017 13:01

speckledduck not yet. I don't know where to start. When I found out 2 months ago I told him I'd tell his mom if I discovered promiscuous gay sex behind my back. Have you shared this yourself?

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speckledduck · 14/12/2017 14:56

Not initially, I was so shocked, confused and to be honest embarrassed that I didn't know what to say. I also didn't know what I was dealing with. His phone synced with mine so I only had images.

I told close family and my adult kids that he'd been on dating apps which meant I got support but without them knowing the entire truth.

I then went on a mission to find out more which was relatively easy because the idiot had used the same gmail on different gadgets. I spent hours googling how to get at his info which led me straight to his gay porn sites and finally the Grindr account, Google maps and his complete history that he thought he'd wiped.

My poor mum popped round and saw me in such a state she knew it was more than dating apps so I blurted it out. My kids know now as well except the one I share with him because he's too young.

I also told his dad out of pure spite because h had stood in front of me lying and swearing on our dcs life I had it all wrong and it was all in my head when he didn't realise I had all his info in my hand. He'd never met anyone, only chatted, wouldn't throw our marriage away, was curious, bored, confused, low self esteem blah blah blah.

2 words summed it up perfectly 'fucking liar ' what scared me the most is that if I hadn't have got his accounts and seen for myself then I would have believed him.

None of my closest friends know the truth but I'm protecting my youngest more than h. He's struggling in mainstream school so has enough to contend with without dealing with this shit.

serialcheat · 14/12/2017 14:59

@Violetdaze

1.) Are you the Op's husband !?

2.) You state your are not commenting anymore...... Then you commenting some more.

3.) So according to your skewed logic, every woman on here who are attracted to ' none - bisexual - manly men ' are homophobic !?

What a crashing, fascist statement.

serialcheat · 14/12/2017 15:08

Speckle

My heart goes out to you and your children.

The Op is barrelling down the same road you have travelled, but sadly, I don't think she will take your ' advice ' and will end up in a similar desolate destination that you arrived at.....

eskimomama · 14/12/2017 15:55

speckledduck can you move out yourself? You can't stay with him much longer, it's too toxic for your sanity. Seeing him every day must be sickening and your DC must feel some of it too. I hope not too much.

About the whole homophobia misunderstanding - I think Violetdaze had a point as in it's not right to judge all bisexual men in a certain way (whichever way). Not all bisexuals will have the same sexual appetite and behaviour, just like all gay guys aren't the same type (some are camp and promiscuous, some are the rugby player type who only want long term relationships). Women never like camp men anyway. If a bisexual person is psychologically balanced and has worked out his/her sexuality and priorities in life and stick to his/her moral values, I don't see why they couldn't be great partners. They're not cheaters by default.
Maybe I'm naive but I want to believe that.

I absolutely hate the idea of my husband fucking with men but if he had been honest at the very beginning, I could have learned about bisexuality back then (rather than now in a state of utter shock and betrayal) and made my own decision about if I want to be with a bisexual man or not. At least I would have known exactly who he really was rather than believe he was someone else all along. I feel like my efforts were made for a man who never existed.

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eskimomama · 14/12/2017 16:02

serialcheat maybe. maybe not. My current situation is super fragile with a sick and very unstable child, I can't make sudden emotional decisions right now. I really don't want to turn biphobic either. But I won't wait too long like this, the anxiety is burning me alive.

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SandyY2K · 14/12/2017 16:12

But surely if you say that you will only date a white person, you ARE racist?

No. Not at all.
Who you are attracted to...doesn't make you racist.

I don't want to turn this thread into a race debate.

OP... you feel as you do. A million forums can encourage what they want...but this is your life

You should not be coerced into accepting what you don't want.... and not wanting a bisexual husband is your prerogative.

Huskylover1 · 14/12/2017 16:54

Posters here can claim they are only attracted to heterosexual men all they want. It's a lie

No, it's really not. You are a bi-sexual woman, with a bi-sexual partner. You don't get to decide for heterosexual women, what they want. The thought of my DH finding men attractive, actually turns my stomach. That does not make me a bigot. In fact you are the only one name-calling.

funny how no one talks about straight women 'craving cock'

Of course straight women crave cock. Not a very nice way of putting it, but I can assure you that they do. Hmm

Your lesbian friend probably is biphobic. It's a massive issue in the gay community. Gay men are also shitty about bi men

I suspect because they are savvy enough to realise, that no matter how great they are in the bedroom, there will always be a sexual desire in their Partner, that they cannot fulfill. That is unnerving, no matter what that desire was. It could be dressing up as a barn animal, if you aren't prepared to do it.

But if you blanket reject the idea of a relationship with a specific group for reasons which have nothing to do with your relationship and are entirely to do with your preconceptions, that's probably prejudice

So what? I would never date a Chinese man. Because I don't find that race attractive. So shoot me. and they are too short

And my lesbian friend has experienced heartbreak in the past when bisexual women she has dated have ended up choosing a man to settle down and have kids with. She has decided to rule them out as future partners which is absolutely her right

I would have done the same, I can totally understand why she would do that.

speckledduck You're missing the point spectacularly, though. You're equating his bisexuality to his cheating, but they're two entirely separate things

I disagree. He chose to cheat specifically with men. Of course speckledduck will consider his bi-sexuality to have fuelled these extra marital encounters. He needed something he couldn't get at home. If he had been openly Bi, and had had many relationships with men before, and then settled down, maybe he wouldn't have ever strayed. But this was a pandora's box for him, that had never been opened. Mid-life crises are bad enough, but I would imagine they are even more spectacular if there's something like this going on.

His being bisexual does not equate to having a serious effect on your health

Yes it does, if he is going Gay dogging. Confused

eskimomama and speckledduck Flowers for you. You sound like really strong women and you don't have to settle for this.

Not the same, but I found out 15 years into my first marriage that my "D"H was a serial cheat. He'd tried to get into the pants of every female in my life. No-one told me. Well, eventually someone did. The horror of this, the embarrassment was awful. He'd (roughly) slept with 10 other women, one was my best friend. She was my counsel, whilst shagging him. It took me 4 years to get my arse out of there. It's so hard, as it's your whole life you are re-evaluating.

Anyway, I've got a lovely DH now. My point is, you can and should move on from these men, and in time, find someone else. Baby steps, work out the money, the logistics, line all your ducks up etc.

There are billions of men on this planet. These ones aren't right for you.

whiskyowl · 14/12/2017 17:25

"The thought of my DH finding men attractive, actually turns my stomach."

I'm sorry, that sounds like the textbook definition of homophobia to me??

mathanxiety · 14/12/2017 17:58

VioletDaze and others, you are confusing 'finding bisexuality a turnoff' with 'homophobia'.

I am straight. I have definite preferences when it comes to men, and very definite turnoffs. There are physical as well as personality elements and at this stage of my life, baggage elements, that would immediately put someone out of contention. I am not phobic to dismiss so many men on grounds that have nothing to do with the content of their soul but perhaps lots to do with the way they look. I don't owe anyone a second look. My life is busy and complicated enough with just my children and my job. I do not need a third shift dealing with the angst of some man.

Is it phobic to only feel attracted to a certain physical type, when other physical types can include members of other 'races'? Let's say I only find south Asian, Middle Eastern or southern European men attractive. What about men of African origin, or northern European men? Am I racist?
Am I discriminating? Yes I am.
It is not racist or phobic to discriminate.
The idea you are implying is that you have to keep an open mind to all men of all backgrounds, personalities, physical types, and sexual orientation, and that you can consciously overcome an aversion to a particular element of someone's makeup for the sake of some higher good, and it is ridiculous. The only person you owe anything to is yourself. You do not have to fight society's battles in your own personal life.

mathanxiety · 14/12/2017 17:59

You are confusing the very deeply personal with the political, in other words.

Huskylover1 · 14/12/2017 18:20

VioletDaze and others, you are confusing 'finding bisexuality a turnoff' with 'homophobia'

That's a brilliant way to describe it.

I'm not homophobic whatsoever. I have a friend who is a lesbian. My daughters best friend, who I like, is gay. I don't give a stuff what people do within their own relationships. And I don't dislike gay people. I just don't want to be with a man who would enjoy shagging other men. It's a turn off for me. A deal breaker.

My first "D"H was short and quite skinny. Not really my "type", but everything else clicked, so I overlooked it. Throughout my marriage to him, I would often see a couple where the man was much taller than the woman, and muse about how lovely that must be.

When I was back on the dating scene, I decided to do OLD and I specifically set my settings to screen out men who were under 6ft. This may sound shallow, but I decided to really go for my "type" this time. Sure enough, I've ended up with a very tall, broad shouldered man, and I can tell you, that I find him much sexier than the first H. My libido has increased tenfold, because I'm with a man who is exactly my type.

Now, I guess you could call me "shortist". But hey, Bob next door is only 5ft 6, and we are great friends. I like Bob. However, I would never date Bob, because he is short, and I like really tall men.

All women have a right to be selective, about the men they allow into their lives vaginas

serialcheat · 14/12/2017 18:58

@Husky

I thought it was only a matter of time before we got a shortist on here.....

I accidentally ran into the back of a car the other day and nudged it...

An extremely angry and irate guy got out who happened to be a dwarf....

He said " I'm not happy "

I replied " Well which fucking dwarf are you !? "

On bisexuality, I could never be bisexual, I couldn't cope being rejected by both men AND woman....

👂 Waiting for the left wing, politically correct, social justice warriors to start howling.....

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