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He won't give back the children

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Witchofthenorth · 11/10/2017 07:29

Hi all, this might be long so apologies but I don’t want to drip feed.

STBXH has contact with the children once a fortnight for a whole weekend. This time though he asked if he could have them for the week as it’s school holidays here, which was no problem. I don’t have issue with him seeing the kids whenever he likes, within reason due to school and things. We live 50 miles away from him and the kids schools are in a different local authority.

Anyway, last week, the kids were off and I was working for a few days. I left my very capable 14, nearly 15yr old son and 13 year old daughter in charge of their younger siblings who are 9 and 6.

The older two have been left alone before and have had some times where they have looked after the younger two prior to this. When I’ve had to go to the shops or doctors appointments and such. So this wasn’t something sprung on them but it was for longer than before.

They know what to do in an emergency, have neighbours they can go to and had my number if they needed. I would have came home immediately if I had to. I also left some chores for them, hoovering, load the dishwasher and my oldest had the grass to cut.

Last night STBXH called me and went mad down the phone, in front of my older two, who I have since found out are a bit shook up at how their father spoke to me, shouting the odds about how it was wrong of me to leave them, the older two should only be on their own for minutes, not hours and the younger two shouldn’t be looked after by their older siblings. I am a bad mother, the kids don’t have a life, they should be playing and that I was neglectful in leaving them and I should have them taken from me.

He has now said that the kids are staying with him next week and the week after (schools go back Monday) and I’m terrified he won’t bring them back. He said he is going to fight for custody and I am so scared. I want my children back. I was speaking to my oldest and he wants to come home but is scared to tell his father. I have told STBXH that the kids come back Friday as planned but I don’t think he is moving on his decision.

Need some hand holding please. I don’t think I was wrong in what I did but I am now doubting myself. My kids are good kids, sensible and level headed. I’ve been trying to teach the how to become functioning adults (the older two anyway) and in some respects I treat then as young adults, teaching them to cook, use an iron, use the washing machine etc. He doesn’t see any of this and wants them to be wrapped in cotton wool forever.

What the fuck am I going to do?

OP posts:
Mummyoflittledragon · 13/10/2017 09:27

Sorry grass isn’t greener

misscph1973 · 13/10/2017 09:49

It must have hurt when your DD said she wanted to stay with her dad. But I very much doubt that she thinks it will be better, even if that's what your maternal guilt (don't we all have it!) tells you. I expect she feels sorry for him because she lives with you, that she feels guilty, and that's why she has been talked into staying with him. Pity and guilt for the other parent are very common feelings for children whose parents are divorced (mine are).

AJPTaylor · 13/10/2017 09:58

i agree that a 14 and 13 year old are perfectly capable of looking after siblings and doing a few chores. i had 10 years between Dds 2 and 3 and had no qualms about them being in charge for the odd day. i was a half hour away.

Missingstreetlife · 14/10/2017 07:45

Does she want to change school? Sorry you having to deal with this. She may feel different when sibs come home and she is only stepchild. Are the others all his new partners' or have they got one together?

So, you and ex should have mediation as part of divorce and try to reach agreement about residence for all kids. If not the court can appoint someone to speak to and for them. You need orders if he cannot negotiate and be sensible. Don't just drop it because three came home. Esp important for youngest two.

Shadow666 · 14/10/2017 11:45

Oh, well let her try but she might find life there less happy than she thinks. I'd let her know the door is always open to come back. It's going to be hard for her siblings too though.

Witchofthenorth · 14/10/2017 13:12

I won’t be dropping it. We have a meeting today with mediation over what is happening and my daughter will be coming home.
There isn’t room for her in his house and her school, friends and social circle are here with me, not 50 miles away.

I’m hoping we can move some way forward today but an order of residency is still being sought.

OP posts:
NameChange30 · 14/10/2017 13:16

Good luck with the mediation today and with the court order. FWIW I think you are completely right to fight this and get a formal agreement in place.

Shadow666 · 14/10/2017 21:04

Good luck! I agree whatever happens get the order of residency anyway.

Mix56 · 15/10/2017 11:54

You need to have a talk with eldest DD....

AllRoadsLeadBackToRadley · 15/10/2017 12:04

Popping in to say good luck. 🌺

misscph1973 · 16/10/2017 10:35

@Witchofthenorth, any news?

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