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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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bluescreen · 01/12/2017 11:38

OldPony - no probs, no offence taken!

Mortal - I hope you hear from him soon. But there could be any reason why he hasn't replied yet.

MortalEnemy · 01/12/2017 11:55

Radio silence so far. Again, very, very unlike him.

All he needed to say was yes or no (I mean, not to DO YOU LIKE ME??? AND DO YOU EVER NOTICE WHEN I WEAR SOMETHING OTHER THAN BLACK???) but to my question about whether I should go ahead and organise a meeting to prep for an event we're both responsible for, a meeting which needs to happen within the next ten days, or whether I should wait until his side of things has firm dates, so we can communicate them at the meeting).

It was a straightforward work question without a flirtatious or personal word.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/12/2017 11:57

Another blatant placemark; how come I've never noticed this thread before??

And is anyone else reminded of the last "Lovely" (Wink) thread like this, where a very special lady spent ages agonising over where it was all going? - you even write like her, for heaven's sake!!

They're married with a new baby now ...

MyOtherProfile · 01/12/2017 12:07

I'd forward the email you sent him to him again and say "Yoo hoo, not heard back and need an answer. Ps are you ok?"

SpringTown46 · 01/12/2017 13:29

Unless you actually need an answer now I'd keep it absolutely professional and wait for his response.

picklemepopcorn · 01/12/2017 13:31

Hmm. If you actually need to know, I'd email again and assume my first email went astray.

MortalEnemy · 01/12/2017 13:33

OK, I'm going out to do something, and I won't see any replies for a couple of hours. Poll: do I email him along the lines suggested by OtherProfile or not? The work question could in fact wait until Monday. If I were to email him, it would only really be to try to figure out whether he's pissed off with me, or something.

If there hadn't been this complete silence since Wed, I would have been naturally emailing him now, because I've just had a work email that has given me a big disappointment, and I'm slightly teary and angry and want to offload.

But I should probably keep schtum.

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Minerva1234 · 01/12/2017 13:37

Wait! He might be feeling a bit overwhelmed after the other day so I'd let him work through that and then email on Monday Smile

lilybookins · 01/12/2017 13:45

I know everyone is very invested in this thread (as am I - I’ve been a single mum for ten years, it would hearten me to see something happen!) but could it be that he just sees you as a lovely, interesting work colleague but that’s all ? If he does, and has picked up on the fact you might like him in a different way he may be backing off so you don’t get the wrong idea. I’m just saying this as have been in this situation before... I genuinely hope I’m wrong. Don’t email again though, leave it now...

MeMeMeMe123 · 01/12/2017 13:46

Hold off Mortal....keep your cool lady!
Monday send him email with an.
updated suggestion based on his non-reply.....only don't tell him that!!

Dear Rumpled
I'm going to do xyz on the basis that abc...
If you've any issues/feedback, give me a shout
Mortal

Or similar. That's what id do...but I know sweet FA tbh 🤓

MortalEnemy · 01/12/2017 13:51

Thank you all for stopping me. Please keep stopping me.

but could it be that he just sees you as a lovely, interesting work colleague but that’s all ?

That is not only possible but quite likely, Lily. Which tragicomically takes me right back to the precise position outlined in 'teenager with a crush' mode in my original post made on September 21st.

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EBearhug · 01/12/2017 14:21

Has he been in work? We've had loads of people off with the various colds and so on which are currently circulating.

Mix56 · 01/12/2017 15:22

I would send a one-liner after the first demand for work info
simple like," Hello, Did you get this ?" or "I know you're busy but please confirm...."

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 01/12/2017 16:07

a man's perspective...

based on the emotional energy he's investing in you, it would suggest he's into you. whether this means he definitely wants to act on it, i couldn't say (sorry - some people are just rubbish like this - it's possible he, like you, is in a comfortable bubble, and the thought of this being blown apart is quite intimidating).

as for your current position - i would agree with others. any email today would need to be 100% work-related. it's entirely possible he's got a load of work-related crap on his plate. the last thing he needs right now is a "have i done something wrong?" email!

if he's just being a dick, that sort of email won't help either.

if you absolutely need to (either for work or your own sanity), i would just send him a reminder, with a friendly "have a lovely weekend" at the end.

this way, he'll either feel guilty for ignoring a nice person (if he's also a nice person, and/or does have feelings for you), or it'll just be a normal, professional non-emotional work-related reminder.

MortalEnemy · 01/12/2017 17:04

Oh god, I'd never send 'Have I done something wrong?' emails that would be even more teenage emo than I currently feel. The work question can wait till Monday morning, and if it can't, that's more his look-out than mine, as it's he's the lead staff member on it. And yes, he may be ill he was complaining of a headache when I last saw him on Wed. Maybe he's got bubonic plague.

I finished work early and went for a ten-mile hike to try to get my head straight and keep away from email and now I'm tired and muddy and on Friday evening 'thank God there's no homework' brownie-baking mother mode.

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ferrier · 01/12/2017 17:42

Brownie baking mother mode sounds good. Put Rumpled in a box for the weekend Smile

ElephantsandTigers · 01/12/2017 19:20

Nothing beats Somerville's thread Shock. She married him and had his baby. This dude hasn't even had a snog!

picklemepopcorn · 01/12/2017 20:47

Is Somerville's thread the GEG?

MeMeMeMe123 · 01/12/2017 20:56

No pickle. That's Not The Ford Type's thread.
Sorry I don't know the name of Somerville thread but it was very moving iirc...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/12/2017 21:20

Somerville's thread ... enjoy an utterly heartwarming read Smile

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/2586932-Dating-again-gulp-after-being-widowed

FlexTimeCheekyFucker · 02/12/2017 07:46

I thought the GEG was NoCapes.

ferrier · 02/12/2017 08:25

Yes, GEG is NoCapes.

picklemepopcorn · 02/12/2017 08:43

Ah, thank you @Puzzledandpissedoff and @MeMeMeMe123 ! That was a lovely read.

MortalEnemy · 02/12/2017 09:00

Could someone link to the GEG thread? I’ve come down with a violent cold, have had to cancel weekend in London plans because of chickenpox (which neither DD nor I have had) in the house where we were staying, and am in need of distraction!

Somerville’s thread was utterly heartwarming, but had zero tension, because it was obvious from the second date that they were both lovely, ready, and delightfully in love. Whereas I assume people are following this one to marvel at just how little can happen in over two months, because it’s perfectly possible R regards me only as a mildly amusing bit of the work wallpaper, or because my swings from uncontrollable obsession to ‘Screw you, non-emailing asshat!’ are so teenage they’re funny.

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badbadhusky · 02/12/2017 09:11

I’ve come down with a violent cold,

Is it possible you’ve been maudlin because of this? I get gloomy when I’m coming down with something.

I am relieved to have started sneezing today because my balance has been out of whack the last couple of days and I’ve been quite spinny-headed. I had a couple of bouts of labyrinthitis a few years ago & the dizziness is usually the harbinger of doom (illness due to set in). This winter we’ve been necking multivitamins and its not going to be a severe bout.