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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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Mix56 · 30/11/2017 10:38

than...... phone balls up

OldPony · 30/11/2017 11:54

Mortal that sounds heavenly! You are so in there!

Bluescreen Sincere apologies for my crass comment. Totally don't mean to generalize, I was a bit pissed and giddy post dinner date.

lynmilne65 · 30/11/2017 11:57

I never see the point of 'withheld ' who gives a shit !

happypoobum · 30/11/2017 12:05

This all sounds like heaven. It's actually the best bit of any relationship so you savour every moment mortal

Sits back and waits for Mortal and Rumpled's first kiss Grin

KarmaStar · 30/11/2017 12:17

Hi,
I appreciate your fears,starting the dating scene a bit later in life when the social scene has changed so much can be intimidating.
From how it reads I got the distinct impression that you get on really well and both look forward to spending time talking.
Time will tell how that develops,you can either wait to see how it plays out or invite him for a coffee lunch.
You appear to be strong but have no self confidence,you listed what you perceive as failings but not one positive attribute.
Maybe build your confidence in the fabulous woman you are,go have a day just for you,if you can afford to,a new hairstyle,a new outfit,to cheer you up and give your confidence a boost.
Wishing you lots of happiness💜😊🌼

MyOtherProfile · 30/11/2017 12:29

Oh this is so exciting! Whispering and sitting close in a meeting in the dark. Makes me want to be young free and single again - almost!

MortalEnemy · 30/11/2017 12:34

Please book rdv with estheticien before Xmas romp party, & get it all tidied up !!

What is this strange practice of which you speak???

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OldPony · 30/11/2017 13:01

Yeah! Say whaaat?

ferrier · 30/11/2017 13:42

Oh Mortal - surely you are in there now? Only the cruellest twist of fate could deny the rightful outcome.

And in a more prosaic note, I think Mix is suggesting to get your ladygarden tidied in preparation for a big event.

Mix56 · 30/11/2017 15:20

Haha, I think Mortal knew that, You little tease Mortal,
I was thinking waxing legs/ & eyebrows/multiple parts of body herewith, beard/backs of hands You know !

NoSquirrels · 30/11/2017 21:44

Think massed attendees, darkened auditorium, dry ice, video, Big New *Ideas from the platform spearheaded by a Big Man with a serious ego and misspelled Powerpoints. I know, I know. It was as if irony had never existed.^

You work for my Big Boss, I am sure of it! There cannot be two, surely?

date of conference is all wrong, and no office moves I know of but still...

NoSquirrels · 30/11/2017 21:45

That random underline was supposed to be struck through

MortalEnemy · 30/11/2017 22:24

Oh, god, No, the mere idea that we might be workmates is turning my veins to ice. I will be imagining eagle-eyed Mumsnetters around every corner. Shock

Not a peep from my colleague today, and he hasn't answered two necessary work emails I sent early afternoon, though he was replying to routine group mails on which I was cc'd later. Very unlike him.

Hmm.

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badbadhusky · 30/11/2017 22:40

C’mon then. What’s the thought rattling around in your head? Let’s expose it to the ‘thoughts are not facts’ MN laserbeam. Wink It is just possible that he hasn’t replied because he’s been out of the office for half the day & is behind on his emails.

MortalEnemy · 30/11/2017 23:13

Are you a therapist, bad? It's beginning to feel as if you know me too well...Grin

Pessimistic me (i.e. me) thinks he was alarmed at how much time we spent together yesterday, that it was offsite in a new situation that felt mildly intimate, and that we were probably more teasing than usual -- and is dealing with it by mentally checking out, or trying to roll back to more distance. It's very unlike him to ignore a work email, and this was about something we need to do soon.

Optimistic me (though I'm just not, to be honest) hopes he might deliberately have not replied to my emails late on Thursday so that he could reply on Friday, when we both usually work offsite, and when there have been email flurries in the past. I don't believe in that one at all, though.

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badbadhusky · 30/11/2017 23:27

To my mind, the optimistic version is the more likely one. Or prosaically, he knows you know he’s been out an event today (because you were also there) so thinks you’ll be more forgiving if he answers other people first.

(Not a therapist, but friends do come and chat if they’ve got a problem they’re grappling with & need to kick it around to get another point of view.)

badbadhusky · 30/11/2017 23:30

Am also a ruminator, so know it when I see it in others. Grin

ferrier · 30/11/2017 23:33

The thing is, even the pessimistic slant is fine. It's OK for him to be feeling a bit overwhelmed after what sounds like quite an intimate experience. He could be wondering if he overstepped boundaries. Or came across to needy. Either would make him hold back a bit.
Take each day as it comes and try not to analyse his every move (easier said than done I know).

forgottenusername · 30/11/2017 23:39

I've just read the entire thread for the first time. I wish there was another page though!

I've got everything crossed for you and Rumpled :)

EBearhug · 01/12/2017 00:45

We have to wait two weeks til the Christmas do?

TinklyLittleLaugh · 01/12/2017 01:17

Oh this thread is incredible: even better than Sommerville's romance.

OnTheRise · 01/12/2017 08:42

Why don't you email him and suggest a dinner that is completely unrelated to work?

It would be nerve wracking to do it, but it might end up in a very delightful way.

Mix56 · 01/12/2017 10:25

I fear You need to slow down Mortal !

MNOverinvestor · 01/12/2017 10:32

Blatantly placemarking

Apileofballyhoo · 01/12/2017 10:59

This has dropped off my threads I'm on list which will never do. Hope he emails soon, Mortal!

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