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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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ElephantsandTigers · 28/11/2017 20:05

Just read all this in one go but by page 3 has to just read the OPs posts.
Hope it all works out like Somerville's thread well ❣

allaboutthatsass · 28/11/2017 21:05

when is your actual office move?

Why not send him a jokey 'new address' card telling him where to find you for future coffees?

MortalEnemy · 28/11/2017 22:15

Move finalised, in the sense of tech transported and reconnected, next Tuesday. The rest of my team, who've already moved to the new part of the building, keep going on about how weirdly quiet it is down there.

Oh well, at least colleague and I have got a meeting together tomorrow which promises to be a lively affair...

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 28/11/2017 22:22

I suspect you'll need to go for coffee and a debrief afterwards!

MortalEnemy · 28/11/2017 22:28

Timbktu, I'm still laughing at your love for To the Manor Born, because (not having grown up here and my pop culture references being a bit fuzzy) I confused it with Only When I Laugh. Grin

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KeziaOAP · 28/11/2017 22:34

I'm so so over invested in this Mortal, looking forward to reading about lively affair 😊

MoonageBowie · 28/11/2017 22:59

It's late and I've just read through this whole thread - I'm now too invested! I'm so excited to see what happens next.

MarklahMarklah · 28/11/2017 23:35

This slow-burn reminds me of a (fairly) recent poster and her green-eyed gardener situation. Can't find any threads from my searches to find out what happened next, but I believe they got together?

Florene · 28/11/2017 23:44

That was NoCapes, they got together and last I saw she was pregnant.

MyOtherProfile · 29/11/2017 06:08

I remember that one!

southennorthener · 29/11/2017 07:04

I found this post last night, and have just finished getting caught up this morning. I am going to be refreshing my Mumsnet all day, everyday.

MortalEnemy · 29/11/2017 17:35

Could someone link me to the NoCapes thread? I've searched her username, but only found rather unhappy ones which I don't think are the ones people are talking about, and it seems a bit prurient to poke around in another woman's posting history in quest of happy stories...

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CountFosco · 29/11/2017 19:51

Oh I remember NoCapes and GEG. That was lovely but hadn't read anything since she'd said she was backing off from the thread because things were progressing nicely.

I do love a MN romance thread, frankly I don't care if you're all trolls (as long as you do it well, I've read troll romance threads that get it all wrong) it's better than chick lit any day. Hmm, I wonder if anyone has written a chicklit based on MN?

How did the lively affair go Mortal?

MortalEnemy · 29/11/2017 20:20

I'm not a troll! And clearly there is no way of proving that, other than saying again that I would have invented much better characters and given them much more plot if I were!

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picklemepopcorn · 29/11/2017 21:09

Who said you are, Mortal?

Greystar · 29/11/2017 22:17

I love this thread and your posting style @MortalEnemy even when you are having a down day or doubts about how he feels about you, you just come across lovely!

I think Count was trying to say something similar but adding the word troll in 🤦🏻‍♀️

I hope the meeting went well today and you got a chance to see him,I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a real life happy ending 🤞

CountFosco · 29/11/2017 22:24

I don't think you're hairy fingered, don't worry.

picklemepopcorn · 29/11/2017 22:28

Do you know, I read count's post several times and didn't see the 't' word! Duh. Time for bed.

badbadhusky · 29/11/2017 22:34

I’ve been “watching” Shadow Hunters on Netflix (read: MNing eith some vaguely hot young actors titting about on TV in the background) this evening, which has made me wonder if you can only see trolls if you are a troll hunter and have “the gift.” Perhaps you’re just a ‘mundane’ when it comes to trolls, Pickle.

bluescreen · 29/11/2017 22:59

Please don't use the T word here even in jest.

  1. maybe, hopefully, this thread does what it's supposed to do: gives support to someone who needs it. And heaven knows, we're all rooting for you, Mortal! Flowers

and, er,
2) I want to know what happens next.

Blush

badbadhusky · 29/11/2017 23:12

hopefully, this thread does what it's supposed to do: gives support to someone who needs it. And heaven knows, we're all rooting for you, Mortal!

Oh yes, this ^

OldPony · 29/11/2017 23:26

Hi guys, I know that Mortal is legit as we've PM'd.
Anyway, I went for dinner with weird dentist and blimey, we laughed all the time. He actually took the piss and did an impression of me as in, I know when Pony's stressed it's all ' oh I had to do this fucking thing and then this fucking thing happened and then fuck him'. Whilst gesticulating madly as I do.

I said: ' is that supposed to be an impression of me?'.
He said 'Err, well yes.'
So I did one of him, of how he bellowed at the waitress when we went into the restaurant, and she asked where we wanted to sit, he knew pew I was freezing so basically shouted Nooo. The table by the radiator!
We then held hands and laughed a lot.

Mum's of Aspie boys, any advice? I really like this guy but bloody hell, sometimes it feels like he goes out of his way to put me off him.

bluescreen · 30/11/2017 01:01

Well, OldPony, I might be able to help if I could parse that long sentence in your penultimate paragraph: "...he knew pew I was freezing..." Smile

But yeh, basically Aspies are literal and honest. What you see is what you get. They can have a fantastic sense of humour (if they get humour at all) - especially wordplay and satire - but boundaries of humour might be wider than you're comfortable with. Though on the whole I'm not happy to generalise about Aspies.

And, returning to topic, I too am confident Mortal is legit.
Flowers

MortalEnemy · 30/11/2017 09:51

Old, are you getting sucked back in by your dentist's charms? I admit, I kind of like the sound of him. I suppose it comes down to whether you can handle Mariah Carey the stuff that puts you off him...? Grin

Yesterday was rather nice, thank you to those who enquired. We managed to spend hours talking, including walking to and from the lively meeting, which was offsite, and which turned out to be less lively than unexpectedly hilarious. Think massed attendees, darkened auditorium, dry ice, video, Big New Ideas from the platform spearheaded by a Big Man with a serious ego and misspelled Powerpoints. I know, I know. It was as if irony had never existed. Grin

But all of which gave me the chance to sit close to Rumpled in the dark on one of those conference venue chairs that are fastened together, and do a lot of surreptitious muttering and sotto voce laughing into his ear. It felt like being back at school and misbehaving in the back row with your bad best friend whom you also fancy like mad.

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Mix56 · 30/11/2017 10:37

Mortal this is going up a level !
So Rumpled preferred to sit & play silly buggars with you that sit with any other person in the whole auditorium & listen to the pontification ...
Please book rdv with estheticien before Xmas romp party, & get it all tidied up !!

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