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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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MortalEnemy · 27/11/2017 22:02

I did, actually, Squirrels. I looked terribly, terribly surprised when he said he was coming, and said 'Oh, I thought you never came to work events?' and he looked shifty and said something about not usually. So I gave him my nicest smile, and begged him to sit near me and save me from the Men in Shorts. Grin

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MortalEnemy · 27/11/2017 22:11

allabout, who would read a novel in which the main event after a million chapters is the hero gasp asking the heroine for a cup of coffee, while the heroine has a bra intervention from a bunch of Internet strangers??? I wouldn't.

It's lovely that people are interested, but I assume it's mostly because the vast majority of threads in Relationships are quite grim that certainly a nasty eye-opener when I joined Mn, what horrible domestic/'romantic' situations women deal with and this is comparatively benign...?

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badbadhusky · 27/11/2017 22:11

Atta girl!

badbadhusky · 27/11/2017 22:13

(My previous post was to your 22.02 post. Wink)

NoSquirrels · 27/11/2017 22:15

Sterling work, Mortal. Love it. Keep playing it cool-but-interested. Allow yourself to be keen when he shows initiative (as per today’s dangerous coffee Grin). Softly so as not to scare him.

How lovely a vicarious flirtation is! Thanks for writing it & letting us spectate Flowers

badbadhusky · 27/11/2017 22:17

It's lovely that people are interested, but I assume it's mostly because the vast majority of threads in Relationships are quite grim that certainly a nasty eye-opener when I joined Mn, what horrible domestic/'romantic' situations women deal with and this is comparatively benign...?

It’s fun to read about nice things happening. There’s too much shit stuff happening in the world. For those of us in long, loooooong relationships all the fluttery new love stuff is a reminder of our youth, the same way holding a new baby takes you back to when your own were tiny.

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/11/2017 22:27

I'm starting to think it's a mistake that it's not a book plot. I love a very gentle romance and clearly so do many other mumsnetters.

It's like my secret love for To the Manor Born- two people flirt-fighting for three years with lots of passionate undertones but nothing more exciting actually happening than a fete in the church hall. Then they finally confess their love and immediately get married. It's what love should be!

PrimalLass · 27/11/2017 22:31

It would be a fabulous book plot.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 27/11/2017 22:37

Congratulations, nicely done, you're getting the hang of this! Star Flowers

OldPony · 27/11/2017 22:44

So what did you talk about over coffee?
Do I rally have to shag my dentist again to add any humour/filth into the thread?

OldPony · 27/11/2017 22:46

Rally = really.
I'm not going to have to rally him around like a cowboy harnessing a wild horse!

OldPony · 27/11/2017 22:48

If this is a book ply and not legit, I demand royalties!

CraftyYankee · 28/11/2017 00:00

Well Pony there are those into the lassoing thing...HaloGrin

franke · 28/11/2017 07:30

who would read a novel in which the main event after a million chapters is the hero gasp asking the heroine for a cup of coffee, while the heroine has a bra intervention from a bunch of Internet strangers??? I wouldn't.

Me neither mortal. Oh, wait Grin.

I love this thread, it's such a wonderfully gentle escape from my mundane life. I believe that it's real, but I actually don't care if it isn't.

MortalEnemy · 28/11/2017 10:07

It's real! Honestly. If I were inventing things, I'd be more -- inventive. There would be daring rescues and explosions and stuff, or at least the discovery of some dangerous secret in the workplace over which we could cast one another significant glances! Or lassoing.

I really went for coffee with my colleague yesterday. He really wore a green shirt. I wore a black dress and a bra that is probably too big for me. We both really had giant black coffees. He's really coming to the Christmas thing, apparently. Grin

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bluescreen · 28/11/2017 10:21

It's real! Honestly. If I were inventing things, I'd be more -- inventive. There would be daring rescues and explosions and stuff, or at least the discovery of some dangerous secret in the workplace over which we could cast one another significant glances! Or lassoing.

Grin Grin

But it's the way you tell it, Mortal!
And I do believe it's real, and that it looks as though you may be getting somewhere more, erm, dangerous.

badbadhusky · 28/11/2017 12:34

Yes, time to get fitted for 3 stone lighter bras in case you end up disrobing in his presence. The last thing you want is a bra stuffed with tissues, should the unthinkable happen. Wink

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 28/11/2017 14:31

It is essential that the heroine wears a beautiful set of matching underwear under her stunning dress at the Christmas party. Just in case she gets hit by a bus you understand!

StealthNinjaMum · 28/11/2017 15:21

Hope you're having a good day. Any more coffees or long emails?

Thought I'd add to the weight of opinion that you need new undies - knickers as well as bras as your knickers must be falling off you with 3 dress sizes down or maybe that's a good thing?

YoungYolandaYorgensen39 · 28/11/2017 17:32

Aww, I love this thread.

Rumpled and Mortal sitting in a tree...

MortalEnemy · 28/11/2017 19:02

I did at one point today see him in the distance pausing outside my door, where there is now a large pile of crates for the office move. I'd love to say he had an air of tragedy about the back of his head, but I was too far away to register anything other than a brief pause. I keep staring at the bloody things, too, and hoping they don't spell a death knell.

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badbadhusky · 28/11/2017 19:05

I keep staring at the bloody things, too, and hoping they don't spell a death knell.

All together now: thoughts are not facts, thoughts are not facts, thoughts are not facts...

MortalEnemy · 28/11/2017 19:13

Thank you, badbad. You are a better therapist than my last actual therapist. Grin

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badbadhusky · 28/11/2017 19:17
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picklemepopcorn · 28/11/2017 19:28

It's like 'slow tv' in written form. A moment by moment serialisation of a two ordinary people negotiating the perils of midlife dating and office relationships, with the support nosiness of internet randoms.

Ah. I'd watch... wait, I already am.

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