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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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dizzy174 · 26/11/2017 10:16

if you 'discover' he is going to xmas do is it possible to ask him to save you a seat? or is that too full on

badbadhusky · 26/11/2017 10:22

Yes, you could even frame it as a “save me from the men in shorts” request on the basis that you’ll have better conversation if you sit with him.

MortalEnemy · 26/11/2017 10:24

“save me from the men in shorts”

Grin Grin

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OldPony · 26/11/2017 10:40

Everyone at work probably think you're already shagging!

Joysmum · 26/11/2017 10:43

Even if you don’t walk the whole way there together, you need to make sure you walk in together so it’s only natural for you to sit together Wink

CountFosco · 26/11/2017 11:56

Have you replied to his long email yet???? Notplacemarkingatallohno

nibora · 26/11/2017 12:18

Well one thing's for sure, if you two ever get your act together, you'll never have to worry about what he's up to when he's not with you.

MortalEnemy · 26/11/2017 13:15

Sorry, CountFosco, I am laughing at the idea of having my romantic delusions relationship checked in on by an sweetie-loving evil Italian who keeps pet mice in his giant evil waistcoat. Maybe Rumpled would notice me more if I grew a Marian Halcombe-style moustache Grin

Yes, I did reply, but late on Friday night after DD was in bed, and as I know he was spending the weekend doing intensive stuff with his DDs, he's unlikely to be back on email till tomorrow morning. Or he may have read mine, but as his emails tend to average between 750-1000 words (and yes, I have wordcounted Blush), not had time to reply.

nibora, nope, there are no people with the remotest clue players in this situation. Grin

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 26/11/2017 14:08

He writes you multiple 1000 word love essays a day? I think his interest is clear.

You must sit close to him at the Christmas party and somehow you must get him to have a drink!

I'm a bit behind and catching up on the outfit choices too. Popping a s&b hat on for a minute (I dabble) I am a bit worried about your bra and great it might be time for an intervention. If you've lost three dress sizes I bet you are not a 36b any more (I bet you never were) what dress size are you now? I think you need to go underwear shopping!

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 26/11/2017 14:08

That great should be think. Really not sure how that autocorrect happened!

AlwaysLookOnBrightsideOfLife · 26/11/2017 16:44

I've just read this thread from start to finish so far. It definitely sounds like he's interested in you OP.

I'm in a similar situation re: liking but not knowing if reciprocated. I totally overthink things though. If possible I'd recommend not doing that Grin
Hope things work out well for you.

OldPony · 27/11/2017 10:07

There's no way your a 36B. I thought i was a 36B for years when in fact I am a 34D. Everything fits and looks much better.

I have invited strange dentist friend over for dinner this Wednesday.
I just can't handle having absolutely no company at home in the evenings, bar the cat!

Elite man who's travelling, is in touch everyday with lots of lovely messages and wonderful photos and we have arranged to meet up when he's back.

But... and I feel awful typing this....when we spoke on the phone, his voice didn't match up to his persona. I was expecting to hear a deep and manly voice, I mean this is the man who fathered 5 sons! But it was all a little bit Essex!

I told my DD and she was furious with me for being so shallow.

bluescreen · 27/11/2017 10:26

There's no way your a 36B. I thought i was a 36B for years when in fact I am a 34D. Everything fits and looks much better.

^^ This. A huge number of women are wearing the wrong bra size. Hi thee to Rigby & Peller forthwith! (Or at least JL.)

StillSmallVoice · 27/11/2017 16:14

Placemarking

MortalEnemy · 27/11/2017 20:33

When I was a Londoner, I always bought my bras at Rigby and Peller. (Nostalgic sigh...)

I had barely got into my office this morning, very early, when he came and asked me if I wanted to go and have a coffee, looking rather shifty because my office mate was also in early, and the invitation clearly wasn't intended to be a general one. A different kind of woman would have yawned, glanced at her watch, and said she was a bit busy, but, as we've established, I'm not that kind of woman. Grin

Plus I've never met a caffeinated beverage I didn't like. Plus it's not in fact all that long ago since he thought going for coffee with me would be 'dangerous', so him appearing in the doorway actually suggesting one still feels a bit miraculous.

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CountFosco · 27/11/2017 20:35

And...

MortalEnemy · 27/11/2017 20:37

I went for coffee, after attempting to look as though I was considering not doing so for all of two seconds!

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MeMeMeMe123 · 27/11/2017 20:50

Did you enjoy said coffee? Did you burn your gob trying to be all cool & mysterious?!

The plot thickens.....😆

MyOtherProfile · 27/11/2017 20:59

Oo you tease! So you went for coffee... and... What happened??

MortalEnemy · 27/11/2017 21:24

I can't do cool and mysterious. It isn't in my skill set. I knocked back a giant black coffee and sat slightly too close to him at a very small table. It turns out he'd bought and read a novel I love and had talked a lot about recently, and had lots of thoughtful things to say about it. Also he told me he was coming to the Christmas dinner. Grin

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PrimalLass · 27/11/2017 21:26

/delurks

Ooh it’s hotting up.

/relurks

NaiceBiscuits · 27/11/2017 21:28

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TimbuktuTimbuktu · 27/11/2017 21:48

This is my favourite thread ever! Can't wait for the Christmas party.

NoSquirrels · 27/11/2017 21:54

Hooray!

And you said “Oh brilliant! You can save me from the Men In Shorts, I’ve been dreading it a bit but I’m glad you’re going...”

Didn’t you?

allaboutthatsass · 27/11/2017 21:55

marking place. been lurking since the start. Hope its not just a book plot.