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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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badbadhusky · 15/11/2017 22:40

Mortal - Did you manage to catch up on your project work, having lost your time advantage to breakfast?

Viewofhedges · 15/11/2017 22:41

Ps and I think any reticence in his part is because he wants to get it right, for you, for him and for his children. I think he is probably taking it very slowly because you are very important to him.

squuueeeeereee!!!!!!!!

NoSquirrels · 15/11/2017 22:52

Oh good gracious- it's too much! You are meant to be, clearly.

MortalEnemy · 16/11/2017 07:25

badbad, thank you for your concern for my neglected professional endeavours. Grin I'll have to put in some time at night when my offspring has deigned to go to bed.

Honestly, I do a good job, and my colleague is a total workaholic, despite the out to lunch impression I give on here!

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picklemepopcorn · 16/11/2017 07:55

Right, off to look at hats again...

Having been married 25 years, to a pragmatic man, there is no romance in my life. I have to live vicariously...

Mix56 · 16/11/2017 08:10

Did the dresses arrive ? What do you think ?

MortalEnemy · 16/11/2017 12:15

Some have arrived some seem to have been left with various neighbours I need to track down, and the La Redoute stuff is supposed to come today! Only one so far is a definite yes kimono sleeves, the right hint of cleavage, the colour suits me, it doesn't scream ALL DOLLED UP or KISS ME, YOU FOOL.

Not that he's actually yet mentioned to me that he's actually going to this thing, of course.

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Mix56 · 16/11/2017 12:24

Sounds promising, you can buy more than one now you have dropped 3 sizes !!!!

MyOtherProfile · 16/11/2017 12:44

Too bad it doesn't scream kiss me you fool! Grin

gunsandbanjos · 16/11/2017 12:51

You need a big sign on your head saying kiss me already you ruffled haired idiot!

Love this thread, really hope it works out.

MortalEnemy · 17/11/2017 08:04

Virtually everything I ordered is still too big, despite ordering two sizes down, which means I need to repack the cursed things and send them back. Grr. An oversized wrap dress flapping at the bosom is easily the least seductive look ever... Why do I invariably lose weight first off the one place women are encouraged to carry body fat...?

This post has been brought to you by Style and Beauty, rather than relationships. Grin

But I am also grumpy because I never see him on Fridays. I am a total sap. A thinner, but utterly sappy sap, with an awful lot of new dresses.

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badbadhusky · 17/11/2017 08:18

Perhaps contact-free Fridays will gradually morph into email-flurry Fridays?

badbadhusky · 17/11/2017 08:20

Re the flappy-open wrap dress, you could style it out Gok Wan style with your outfit screaming “check out these bangers*!”

  • Gok term for boobs
Mix56 · 17/11/2017 08:28

on the up side 3 SIZES down ..........Woohoo !
At least you started early, so not too stressed
& you can call it your Xmas present to yourself.
I bet he emails you today ! or you could send him an email, saying Fridays are so dull without permanent & constant interacting with & longing for you

MortalEnemy · 17/11/2017 08:31

Actually, last Friday was exactly that, badbad (that was when he apparently dropped coffee on the sofa and imperilled the cat Grin), but for some reason, I'm suddenly feeling insecure about it all this week, and as if I shouldn't initiate anything to see if he's at all bothered...?

I don't know quite what's going on with me -- maybe it's the mild lunacy of having a spare room bed piled with beautiful dresses that don't fit!

Gok 'Bam-Bams' Wan needs to be gagged with a 36 B M and S balcony bra.

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MortalEnemy · 17/11/2017 09:00

you could send him an email, saying 'Fridays are so dull without permanent & constant interacting with & longing for you'

Don't tempt me! I'd have to quit my job with no notice and go into witness protection in another country... Grin

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Mix56 · 17/11/2017 11:13

"Missing you madly ?" :o)

Pompommed · 19/11/2017 10:17

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

OldPony · 20/11/2017 11:01

Happy Monday everyone.

I have been exchanging messages with a gorgeous man off Elite for a week now. We can't meet as he is in Oz until 9th December which is quite exciting. He is very much my type so I'm trying not to build up a fantasty personality in my head only to be disappointed.

He has 5 sons with his ex wife though! That should send me running for the hills but I'm just intrigued!

Mix56 · 20/11/2017 16:55

Eeeek, You like a challenge then Pony ???

MortalEnemy · 20/11/2017 20:24

Respect, Pony! Grin

takes hat off, bows and backs away

I am such an amateur.

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badbadhusky · 20/11/2017 20:33

Is this week the week of your office move and departure for the other end of the building, Mortal?

OldPony · 20/11/2017 21:46

I'm a complete fool, but very much a people person and not at all meterialistic. Very happy supporting myself in my own house and paying my way, so the 5 sons thing is a 'more the merrier' situation.

My mother has warned me with regards to my optimistic approach!

Have you decided what you're going to wear to the party Mortal?

MortalEnemy · 20/11/2017 22:49

Next week is the office move, badbad. I realise I've droned on about this since the start of the thread, but I'm apprehensive about it, because I still think it's perfectly plausible he'll just drop out of my life, because it's happened before with people I thought were good friends, rather than someone I've only known for a short time and seem to have fallen quite hard for. Sad

Also, it's making me act in an uncharacteristic and deeply desperate way. I went into his office without even the vaguest work excuse today (because I was wearing something I thought looked nice Blush) the usual endless, lovely conversation and, not content with that, emailed him at the end of the day to suggest lunch later in the week. (Enthusiastic yes, but...)

I just get hit by abandonment issues and I either abandon whoever it is before they can abandon me ('See, I did it first! Na na na na na! See if I care!') or I grab onto them like crazy in denial about it all ('Here I am! Admire my outfit! Let's have lunch!') Not my cleverest day, I fear. Please tell me to calm the fuck down and back off, otherwise I'll never see whether he makes any kind of reciprocal move. I get all panicky and obvious.

I haven't given the party a thought in days, tbh. I still need to package up all the too-big dresses and re-order! I feel a bit discouraged about it all again... Aargh.

Kick me, Mumsnet. Kick me hard.

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MortalEnemy · 20/11/2017 22:51

Old, I should take a leaf out of your book. You are about 700% more sane than I am. Hope new Elite man turns out to be fabulous, and everyone on this thread can give their hats an airing...

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