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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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MortalEnemy · 13/11/2017 19:22

Old, I can't begin to tell you how awful I would look in leather leggings, or how deeply I envy those who can pull off the look. I will probably be accessorising some form of wrap dress with a hint of cleavage biker boots and a man-slaying red lipstick. Rarr. Grin

NewLove God, how difficult for you! Were you desperately into him and devastated when he turned you down? I can't imagine that one was easy to come back from. Sad Did you ever tackle him about what he thought he was doing playing with your hair and being all cosy on the sofa? Did the friendship survive? That's one of the many things I'm wondering about my own situation at the moment if I don't succeed in seducing my colleague by the force of my (ahem) considerable charms, can I manage without his delightful company and wonderful, funny, charming emails?

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badbadhusky · 13/11/2017 20:00

I can't begin to tell you how awful I would look in leather leggings, or how deeply I envy those who can pull off the look. I will probably be accessorising some form of wrap dress with a hint of cleavage biker boots and a man-slaying red lipstick. Rarr.

Sounds fab-u-lous! Ooh la la!

can I manage without his delightful company and wonderful, funny, charming emails?

I went through all this with DH. It was definitely worth going out on a limb.

Mix56 · 13/11/2017 20:08

Husky is right, you might as well try, if not you will always say "he was the one that slipped away"

& some idiot said this "Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?"....... up for debate !

TatianaLarina · 13/11/2017 21:00

I think it would be very odd to suddenly turn up in pleather if it’s not your style. Even the guys in shorts would notice.

OohAahBird · 13/11/2017 21:41

Your style sounds similar to mine, I do dresses and biker boots sometimes converse depending on the dress

ConstantStruggler · 13/11/2017 21:59

Even the guys in shorts would notice.

😂

ConstantStruggler · 13/11/2017 22:07

Whoops. Pressed "post" too soon.
Just wanted to say I've been following your story from day one and loving it!

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 13/11/2017 22:53

Re the threads I'm watching list, I scroll through to see which are still "live" and 'bump and reset' the ones I'm still interested in. That's kept this thread firmly at the top of my list!

CompletelyUnknown · 14/11/2017 09:29

I do love popping into this thread every couple of days. I recommend sticking with it.

My DH was one of the supervisors at my work when I had just started. He was odd and other people said so. They also thought highly of him and he was seen as an all round “good un”. I thought he was just being extremely friendly. Months pass I used to love to speak with him and found we spent ages talking in the corridor.

He was off for a month once and I missed him so much, that’s when I realised I had feelings for him. When he came back I found out he was moving to a completely new office as part of a shake up. I was devastated.

Due to the nature of my job I had his mobile number. So I text him about a “work related matter”. From there we were texting all the time. I never knew if he had feeling too though due to his oddness. Eventually after what felt like an eternity he asked me on a date.

Fast forward 4 years we are happily married and have a beautiful DD.

Good luck and stick with it. I look forward to hearing what happens next.

MeMeMeMe123 · 14/11/2017 11:41

I love a love story! unknown
Thanks for sharing 😄

NewLove · 14/11/2017 12:51

Op the relationship didn't survive. It was unfair of him to behave like that when he knew I had feelings. I changed jobs and now never see him :(

Re the threads I'm watching list, I scroll through to see which are still "live" and 'bump and reset' the ones I'm still interested in. That's kept this thread firmly at the top of my list!

I can't do that on my mobile and it is a total pain up the arse to do especially when every other funcking website does it automatically when you view a post, including taking you to the last viewed

YoungYolandaYorgensen39 · 14/11/2017 17:37

This thread is so lovely! I just keep the tab open on my phone so I don’t lose the thread :) I love checking on how it’s going for Mortal and Rumpled.

MortalEnemy · 14/11/2017 20:17

NewLove, what a shame. It was most unfair of him, and I imagine it's hard to recall the good times with any fondness with the way it ended.

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MortalEnemy · 14/11/2017 20:36

And not much to report here, other than emailing one another a lot about non-work stuff. I'm a sucker for a good writer, and his mails are utterly lovely. My car was in the garage yesterday so I got an infrequent rural bus home, and actually missed my stop I was so engrossed in laughing at an email from him. (Fortunately the bus driver was a nice man and pulled over, otherwise it was miles to the next village, and an hour till the next bus, so hiking back across the fields in the dark to my childminder's house. Blush)

I only saw him briefly yesterday, and not at all today -- crazily busy. No one has mentioned whether we're having lunch this week, and I'm reluctant to be the one who proposes it, as I seem to have made most of the running after his initial Major Declaration of Lunch Commitment, plus last time was so weird. The ball is in his court.

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picklemepopcorn · 14/11/2017 22:02

Sigh. Tell him how much you like reading his emails.

NoSquirrels · 14/11/2017 22:55

Seconded!

Tell him you missed your stop on the bus - plus fields- because he writes so well. You can make it funny & lighthearted and non- threatening.

Do it.

Then he'll suggest lunch again...

Mix56 · 15/11/2017 08:39

haha, tell him you will have to bring wellies & lantern into work for hiking home across the moors......:o)

MeMeMeMe123 · 15/11/2017 12:18

Tell him he owes you lunch/tongue sandwich for making you miss your stop....

MeMeMeMe123 · 15/11/2017 12:18

Strikethrough fail...😲

DrMariaLopez · 15/11/2017 14:01

I understand your reluctance to make a the first move as
a) you are probably 95% sure he feels the same, but don't want to potentially ruin a good friendship
b) very probably reluctant to start a personal relationship at work to potential ruin the professional relationship

I can only repeat what has already been suggested that you try and have a coffee or lunch with him.

It not always wise to have a relationship with someone you work with, but for many people they spend more time with their colleagues than their family or close friends so its only natural for relationships to happen.

Sometimes you need to be bold and if you really think the relationship is worth pursuing than you need to take a risk and ask an awkward questions or two.

MortalEnemy · 15/11/2017 19:37

I made moves DrMaria! Some posters even compared my moves to the Enigma machine, because they changed the course of world history and stuff! Grin

We had breakfast today, having accidentally run into one another on the street by our workplace very early in the morning. (I was going in early to get ahead with a project with a big deadline, and he's a freakishly early riser.) Well, no one ate anything again, but time entirely evaporated and suddenly we were both on the cusp of being late for work, rather than two hours early. He told me one of my emails that he'd read at home had made him laugh so much he dropped a cup of coffee into the sofa and almost scalded the cat. Grin I didn't tell him about missing my stop.

I'm much better at courtship via letters than real life stuff like how to control my hair and dress for parties. I should be in a French epistolary novel. Grin

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badbadhusky · 15/11/2017 19:50

Awesome update, Mortal. Keep it up! You need to work up to snogging on your post-Xmas work trip (or more Wink). Grin

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 15/11/2017 19:52
Chiconbelge · 15/11/2017 20:04

Such a great update - thank you! By the way, you say the lunch date was in some way awkward but you still talked for one and a half hours!

Viewofhedges · 15/11/2017 22:19

Just found and read this whole thread. It’s gorgeous. He obviously adores you. Hoping it continues to go well at whatever speed it needs to. Though obviously we need frequent updating .