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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

OP posts:
raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 03/11/2017 19:42

MortalEnemy well done :)

Do you accept he likes you now?!

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 03/11/2017 20:18

He lurves you Wink

phoenix1973 · 03/11/2017 20:21

Just keep things as they are.

AdiosPieceOfToast · 04/11/2017 08:11

In my head he’s the actor that plays Cormoran Strike Grin

GiGiraffe · 04/11/2017 08:50

Another one delurking to give you a ‘yesssss!’ and a fist pump. Its a bit like an 18th century courtship, all double talk and secretly defending virtue (or maybe I have just read too many Jane Austen’s) anyway, whatever, am rooting for you both!

MortalEnemy · 04/11/2017 10:52

raisins, honestly, I'm a glass-half-empty type. All of his loveliness to date could be platonic friendship loveliness. Maybe I could eventually cope with that, if that turned out to be the case...? Sad

I had to look up the actor who plays Cormoran Strike. Hmm. While you could probably cast them as brothers without anyone saying 'but those guys don't look anything like one another!', no -- not really.

I can't describe him! He's the kind of man whose clothes never seem to stay on his body properly he shows up neat for work, but by lunchtime his shirt is crumpled and coming untucked at one side, he's been raking his hands through his hair over a problem, and his cuffs always seem to bother him, so he ends up rolling up his sleeves. By five o'clock he looks as if he's slept in his clothes. Greying on the temples. Nearly always has a cup of coffee within six inches of his hand. He's not at all conventionally good-looking I've never gone for that type -- and he can look intimidating and remote when his face is in repose, but he has the most disarming smile. Sigh.

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ZenNudist · 04/11/2017 12:03

Wow just read 18 pages. Its like a middle aged rom com. You both need quirky best friends. Grin

Greedynan · 04/11/2017 12:06

@zennudist 🤣🤣

AdiosPieceOfToast · 04/11/2017 12:33

I can't describe him! He's the kind of man whose clothes never seem to stay on his body properly he shows up neat for work, but by lunchtime his shirt is crumpled and coming untucked at one side, he's been raking his hands through his hair over a problem, and his cuffs always seem to bother him, so he ends up rolling up his sleeves. By five o'clock he looks as if he's slept in his clothes. Greying on the temples. Nearly always has a cup of coffee within six inches of his hand. He's not at all conventionally good-looking I've never gone for that type -- and he can look intimidating and remote when his face is in repose, but he has the most disarming smile. Sigh.

It’s a love letter to the dishevelled Smile

Cricrichan · 04/11/2017 13:23

Shamelessly place marking. I'm loving this.

OldPony · 04/11/2017 14:47

Hi Mortal and co. No exciting news from me alas, however, I have joined a new dating site recommended by a friend. Elite.com. So hopefully I'll have lots of exciting tales to tell soon.

I am thrilled for you Mortal!

Saffronwblue · 04/11/2017 20:41

@zennudist surely OldPony has qualified for the role?

KeepItAsItIs · 04/11/2017 21:54

@OldPony, is this dentist the one with the adult daughter? Because in that thread you said he had never been diagnosed with ASD and his ex told him he had traits. Also you apparently split a while ago because he screamed that you were a cunt when you said about emotional incest. If it's a different man you have a lot of drama with men, with some over lapping it seems.

OldPony · 04/11/2017 23:06

No way! Dentist has no children, the other thread was about the Ancient Biker! My foray into a dark world. That ended disastrously!

No overlapping just hard work on my part!

MortalEnemy · 05/11/2017 09:34

If this were a romcom, OldPony would be the cool, feisty heroine with a string of dentists and bikers and Mariah Carey cardboard cutouts romantic entanglements, and I'd be the quirky best friend whose single subplot revolved around the tragicomically slow pace of her coworker crush.

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SchnitzelVonKrumm · 05/11/2017 09:40

Slow burn romance AND OldPony as your wing-woman, things could be much worse Wink

CraftyYankee · 05/11/2017 10:32

Sounds better than most of what's on these days. I'd watch!

SerialMistakeMaker · 05/11/2017 14:15

I've just found this thread and read it all in nearly one go!!

Without a doubt he is in to you MORTAL I can see why you were unsure before and thought it maybe could've all been just friendly but the secrect emails in the meeting And the suggesting regular lunches to me confirms he is totally into you GrinGrin

I've lived reading this thread and agree with everyone that it's like reading a romance novel.

Can't wait to hear your next update, I bet you're one of the few people actually looking forward to Monday lol apart from all these people on this thread who are all excited for you and want to know the next instalment Grin

OldPony · 07/11/2017 18:40

How's it going Mortal?

Nothing exciting from me but Elite Singles is proving interesting. I may have a date on the horizon but nothing booked as yet.

Husky , I have saved the final episode of Wanted as my treat for tonight. Thanks so much for the recommendation, both my parents and my daughter and her boyfriend (at Uni) are hooked, so your recommendation has spanned 3 generations!

badbadhusky · 07/11/2017 18:43

Yay! I am contemplating watching again on a slower burn, rather than tearing through it like a starving labrador at a buffet. I so enjoyed watching female-centred adventure.

OldPony · 07/11/2017 18:52

I'll definitely do the same after tonight, there must have been so much I missed in between dinner, wine and eagerly awaiting the next exciting bit!

badbadhusky · 07/11/2017 19:07

My favourite scene has to be the karaoke session in S2. It was so unexpected and very moving. Anyhow, we should probably take this discussion to Telly Addicts before Mortal evicts us from her thread.

MortalEnemy · 08/11/2017 14:13

Feel free to keep talking about Wanted if I can take some time off from work and parenting and staring into space like a lovesick teenager-- I'll watch it myself. Grin

Talking of unexpectedly moving karaoke, RumpledColleague sang his school song for me. In the middle of his office, looking particularly rumpled (because his daughter had stayed with him and been throwing up all night while he rubbed her back), and in an unexpectedly lovely baritone. (Not as weird as it sounds -- I've always teased him about being posh (whereas I am deeply not) and he went to an old, famous school with 17thc buildings, a fancy uniform, and a Latin knock-off of 'Floreat Etona' as the school song, all of which he is mortified about. I challenged him to see if he remembered it, not thinking he would, but he was word-perfect thirty or so years on... Grin)

It was one of the most adorable things I've ever seen, this harried-looking man with his hair standing on end and an armload of files singing a hearty Latin ditty while trying not to laugh or be overheard by anyone passing next to a filing cabinet.

It probably counts as acceptable foreplay in some culture. Possibly. Grin

On the other hand, we still haven't succeeded in having The Lunch. Sad

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picklemepopcorn · 08/11/2017 16:54

Ah, who needs lunch when a man will sing his school song to you! It will be less c9mplicated when the Office move happens. No risk of bumping into each other after a tricky date. Hang in there...

SerialMistakeMaker · 08/11/2017 16:55

Bless him, that sounds really sweet.

How are things going in general between you two, is there lots of talking/flirting? Smile

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