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situation with my colleague

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MortalEnemy · 21/09/2017 19:05

Let me start by saying that I am over 40, but if I sound like the most clueless of teenagers, that is because I am in relationships terms -- I was with the same man from my teens until a couple of years ago, and as I've been single since, and am the busy working parent of a demanding small child with no evening childcare, as a result I have pretty much zero experience of relationships, flirting etc.

Which is why I'm finding this confusing and talking to a bunch of strangers on the internet about it.

I've been in my current job at a large organisation (being deliberately vague) for just over a year. Over the last two or three months, I've found myself feeling close to a colleague from another department with whom I have intermittent meetings/dealings, after only vaguely registering him as a nice guy before that. Recently we seem to end up drifting together at any events we're both at, and falling into conversations which end up often being very long and wide-ranging, and often end up hovering by the lifts or in the corridor talking more, if it's something at the end of the day.

I thought I was overthinking this while I was away over the summer, but now it seems to be becoming more frequent, if anything, and the conversations more personal. It's a busy period at work, with a weekend event and a conference we both had to attend, and in the last five workdays alone, we must have spent four or five hours talking at a reception/on the way out of the building/on the way to the car park. I'm finding myself thinking about him more and more, and realised I find him attractive. He's 48, clever, funny, observant, and kind, and apparently amiably divorced, but clearly a besotted and very involved father to teenagers.

The issue, I suppose is that I'm completely confused about what this means. The last time I was in this situation I was 18, pretty and confident, and I was falling in love with the man I married. Now I am in my 40s, no looker, and my confidence has taken a big knocking for various reasons in the last five years, when I found parenthood tough, my career foundered, my marriage ended and I haven't been particularly happy -- my marriage was celibate for the last few years, and I have not thought of myself as someone who could be considered attractive for a very long time. I also have none of the basic comprehension of men that an average, single 40something woman has. At some level I am terrified, but mostly what I feel is as though I'm a beginner at a language everyone else seems to speak fluently.

How on earth do you know if someone reciprocates your feelings? How can you tell the difference between someone who likes you as a workmate and someone who is developing stronger feelings for you? I have butterflies. I'm off my food. When someone says his name I get a rush of pleasure. I am a teenager in the body of a 42 year old professional.

I realise this probably sounds like a complete non-problem to anyone with experience of adult dating, but despite being a functioning adult I am absolutely unable to conceive that anyone would find me attractive, and while we gravitate to one another when we encounter one another at work and can't stop talking, it's always 'accidental'. He's very self-deprecating, and I sense he's been out of the game for a while, too. I'm especially wary because presuming something about a workmate could have horrible consequences. Also, we're both originally from the same country, though have lived in the UK most of our adult lives, so I wonder whether this might just be nostalgia for 'home' from him. But then I think of all the times when an hour suddenly melted away just standing in the corridor, and the fact that he remembers absolutely everything I tell him.

Thank you for struggling through this any advice? How does this sound to you? What would you do? A bit of me hopes you will all say 'predictable office crush all in your head no basis in reality, no need to do anything'.

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FlexTimeCheekyFucker · 02/11/2017 22:39

Mortal and Rumpled, sitting in a tree ...

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 02/11/2017 22:43

@picklemepopcorn Autumn or winter wedding do you reckon?

Saffronwblue · 02/11/2017 22:49

Sending you an email while sitting with a straight face in a meeting with you is just erotic .
This man is on fire

Gettingbackinthesaddle · 02/11/2017 22:58

Ooooh. Loving the update. I went all swoony at him playing email footsie with you across the committee room table Grin

ohfourfoxache · 02/11/2017 23:10
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MyOtherProfile · 03/11/2017 05:51

Oh my goodness a regular lunch swoon
Please tell us you have already emailed to say yes please and here's my phone number.

MortalEnemy · 03/11/2017 09:38

I haven't emailed him yet, no. Partly because I'm just sort of wandering about smiling to myself, and realising that not only did I forget to eat dinner yesterday, I also forgot to eat lunch but also because he seems so much more at ease if he's left to himself to make moves. But I suppose he did make that move by asking whether we could have a regular lunch, which for the glacial pace pf our relationship is pretty huge, so the reasonable thing to do is to make a reciprocal move...?

Don't get carried away, lovely Mumsnsetters because I am intermittently, and I rely on your collective wisdom for balance It is perfectly within the bounds of possibility that RumpledColleague is just being kind and collegial. I may be in unrequited lust-and-liking. No buying of hats! Grin

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badbadhusky · 03/11/2017 09:44

and realising that not only did I forget to eat dinner yesterday, I also forgot to eat lunch

You’ll be in prime sexy undies form ready for your post-Xmas trip in no time at all. Wink

MyOtherProfile · 03/11/2017 09:54

He made a huge move asking for regular lunch! Definitely ball in your court now!

opiumeater · 03/11/2017 09:55

"It wasn't his issue, though he handles something similar for his department and we'd talked about it during last week's quickie coffee -- it was pure generosity on his part (and also very cleverly handled, so it made my perceived 'delay' look both reasonable and necessary to the success of the project, and using his credit with the senior moaner to make it plain he had my back)."

This is so, so lovely. Smile

I'm loving your to-and-from emails during the committee. He sounds tres sophisticated!!

MargoLovebutter · 03/11/2017 10:31

OMG Mortal!!!! Yes, yes, yes! Grin

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 03/11/2017 11:25

Suggesting a regular lunch is way more than coffee!
You need to email and say that's a lovely idea, thank you. When and where were you thinking? Or something like that.

Moving away from him, office wise is good as it'll be easier if something does develop.

thedayismine · 03/11/2017 13:50

This thread is pure gold - just caught up after a huge gap since your OP Mortal .
He sounds like an amazing guy I will be another MNetter rooting for you both .
You too OldPony - going to tell me kid forties gorgeous long term single friend to check out GS !

MustBeDueSomeBetterFeet · 03/11/2017 14:08

Just marking my place as I'm loving living vicariously, ME!

NoSquirrels · 03/11/2017 14:20

You were in his office chatting, he suggested a regular lunch date and then you were interrupted. So it would be perfectly reasonable & not at all pressuring to respond (by email - gives the required distance, doesn't put him on the spot) to say "By the way, about that lunch you suggested - we got interrupted before I could say we should definitely set that up. When's good for you?"

Not to mention it means he might think you were appalled and not ask again...

KeepItAsItIs · 03/11/2017 16:04

You do need to email a reply. He may think a non response is a no.

picklemepopcorn · 03/11/2017 16:32

Ok, no buying of hats. Won’t stop us looking though...

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 03/11/2017 17:19

You do need to reply to him. He made a move and is now waiting fro your response!

No response may mean he thinks no, and feel crushed as you did. Don't do that to him!

MortalEnemy · 03/11/2017 17:41

OK, I emailed him about having lunch because of you bossy types, and when he replied, he referred to my office move in a phrase from a language we both speak that translates as something like 'the Big Upset' or 'the Big Shake-Up'.

Maybe I'm not the only one with abandonment issues. Grin

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Gettingbackinthesaddle · 03/11/2017 17:51

Defo the right thing to reply before the weekend. Bet he’ll be whistling all the way home.

I keep forgetting this is real life and imagining that he’s going to walk into your office any minute and carry you out a la Richard Gere in Officer and a Gentleman Grin —but you’re defo going to get a happy ending—

Gettingbackinthesaddle · 03/11/2017 17:52

Strikethrough fail there !

Shakey15000 · 03/11/2017 18:20

Ah this is great stuff Smile

Catmint · 03/11/2017 18:43

My favourite so far is the emailing during meetings. That's got a bit of a flavour of, "it's you and me versus the world". A very positive sign IMO.

Next time see if you can make him smirk or even laugh with your emailed-during-meeting witticisms.

Thank you for sharing this with us, OP, and good luck!

Wanderlust1984 · 03/11/2017 19:19

Mortal, if you're not already an author, please become one! The way you write is fabulous Grin I would buy your books!! And loving the whole thread also and how things are moving forwards Wine

Wanderlust1984 · 03/11/2017 19:20

And high five to the lady who bedded her dentist, go girl!!