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It was all going so well until he said he voted Leave.

331 replies

Locotion · 23/08/2017 09:22

I am sure conflicting politics is a common problem. Shudder. For someone to vote for such a destructive step as flippantly as he said: "just to see what happens" concerns me somewhat.

Aside from that he is very nice. How does one decide whether to take things forward? I guess time will tell? But then.... isnt it more difficult to extract yourself when you are more physically and emotionally entangled.

Oh dear, I don't know what to do. Only had relationship with ex (long term marriage ) & flings. Not sure how things work.

I do like him. But... he voted Leave. And doesnt read. And has lived in thr same place with his family all 4 decades of his live. I read (or did before kids!) & have travelled a bit..... are we compatible?

Oh dear - I sound like I am looking down on his experiences but I guess they are just different ...

Eek

OP posts:
DirtyMartiniWithAnOlive · 23/08/2017 15:27

Such small minded people here with regards to voting leave.

Some people voted leave with the hope that Britain could then be free to trade with the commonwealth again. Do you know how many countries in Africa etc that speak English and have the Queen as HoS?

Yet we sold them down the river to jokn the EU which is basically a trade embargo. Those countries are on their knees because of us.

Educate yourself before you start shouting racist.

Oblomov17 · 23/08/2017 15:28

"Brexit was never viable, it's not possible to produce a plan that would actually work. "

I disagree. It could be possible. Very hard. But not impossible. Not that the UK really should leave altogether. But Partial/negotiations wasn't something that DC offered. Mind you, to be fair to him, previous negotiations has actually failed.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/08/2017 15:29

I think DC is a shit, but I don't see why he's getting the blame for this.

He promised a ref if elected.
He was elected.
He held a ref.
Leave narrowly wins.
Why is the onus on him to have the plan? You vote for something with no plan, you get no plan. That's not rocket science.

LazaUbi · 23/08/2017 15:29

That would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

Where have you been for the past 14 months?

AvoidingCallenetics · 23/08/2017 15:31

No one has actually been deported Laza

TatianaLarina · 23/08/2017 15:33

If you have a plan you think could possibly work Oblomov you should share it with the government asap and put them out of their misery.

I'm fairly certain it's not as viable as you think. (If this weren't Relationships I'd ask you what it was).

Slimthistime · 23/08/2017 15:36

Tatiana "The country voted for no plan as the voters failed to notice there wasn't one"

Oh I don't know. I think many Remainers were amazed there was literally no plan. then again, I was told by someone in local government in Scotland that they didn't have a plan if the Scots had gone independent.

It sure has been interesting.

but going back to OP, I do think "to see what happened" is a cover for someone who doesn't want to explain their reasons, quite possibly because they have heard a lot of abuse already.

Slimthistime · 23/08/2017 15:37

histiny "Why is the onus on him to have the plan? You vote for something with no plan, you get no plan"

DC said he'd carry out the will of the people and then ran away within hours of the result. I was never a fan but even I thought that was pretty low.

Hassled · 23/08/2017 15:39

I could cope with the voting Leave thing. I could cope with the not reading/not travelling thing (actually maybe that's not true. I don't know). But I couldn't cope with the "to see what happens" thing. It was a fucking massive decision that will affect possibly generation - it wasn't a vote to be taken lightly. If you think leaving the EU is the right thing to do then fair enough - I disagree but that's fine. But you have to know why you think it's the right thing to do - you have to understand some of the implications of your vote. "To see what happens" is so immature and foolhardy that I couldn't forgive it.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/08/2017 15:40

His position was untenable. He had to go. The whole thing was a farce- but if people hadn't voted leave then we wouldn't be in this position for the next 20 years. The 51% need to take responsibility for their vote instead of blaming the guy who gave them it.

BackforGood · 23/08/2017 15:41

So... to go back to the original question.......

I'm fairly amazed that anyone would not have a relationship with someone because they voted differently from them in a referendum Hmm. I'm pretty sure dh and I cancelled each other out in a lot of votes (although not, funnily enough, the referendum).

However, you seem to have made up your mind he is somehow 'not good enough' for you with his lack of reading and having lived in the same place all his life ~ not that I can see, in any way, why this would disqualify anyone from being an interesting or lovely person Confused.

So, if you aren't really in to him, then put a halt on the relationship developing. If you do like him, however, then it is perfectly possible to live with someone for decades and vote in different ways.

Slimthistime · 23/08/2017 15:46

histiny "The 51% need to take responsibility for their vote instead of blaming the guy who gave them it."

to be fair, I've not heard any Leavers saying they blame anyone - the only ones I know are very happy? It's mostly Remainers who are annoyed with DC?

I also couldn't date someone who was homophobic or anti abortion but I don't see those as political issues, more just general human ones. I once had a boyfriend - for about 2 weeks - who was so extremely on the capitalist side, I think he'd have totally private health and ambulances etc. That also wasn't going to go anywhere. It's not that I'm a communist, lol, but he was pretty far over in a kind of "survival of the fittest" way, he'd have eaten the scraps of those left behind! Shock

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/08/2017 15:48

I thought avoidingCallanetics voted leave and was blaming the govt.

I may be wrong- apologies Callanetics if I am!

BrandNewHouse · 23/08/2017 15:49

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TheNaze73 · 23/08/2017 16:05

It would be a deal breaker for me. I'd have to end it

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 23/08/2017 16:09

9 pages..... still no OP

Hmm
Ttbb · 23/08/2017 16:10

Surely having lived abroad-properly abroad, not EU abroad-would actually make you more likely to vote leave? My assumption has always been that remainders who voted for reasons other than personal gain or economic benefits of remain did it because they were incredibly ignorant of the world beyond Europe.

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 23/08/2017 16:13

Locotion how many times have you met him? I think as you like him it would be worth exploring your concerns a bit more. My thoughts though are...

Voted leave "just to see what happens" (if he honestly means that) = lack of critical thought. The way he voted wouldn't bother me, but his reasons do; I really dislike people who don't engage their brains.

Doesn't read - where does he get his information? From his little circle of locals? TV?

Lived in the same place all his life - could be rather insular, and coupled with his lack of reading could mean he has little idea of the world outside his bubble. I wouldn't feel comfortable dating someone like that.

TatianaLarina · 23/08/2017 16:15

My assumption has always been that remainders who voted for reasons other than personal gain or economic benefits of remain did it because they were incredibly ignorant of the world beyond Europe.

What an odd assumption. And the RotW beyond Europe think Brexit's as idiotic as everyone else.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 23/08/2017 16:21

And the RotW beyond Europe think Brexit's as idiotic as everyone else.

Wow your phone book must be huuugggee if you know everyone in the rest of the world.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/08/2017 16:30

Properly abroad rather than eu abroad?!! Grin

I have lived "properly abroad" and ime those who have done so were even less likely to be taken in by such campaign nonsense as 'take back control' and 'get our country back' lm surprised your experience is so very different ttbb.

SusannahL · 23/08/2017 16:34

Op you do realise of course (if you are still around) that this man could feel exactly the same about you in reverse.

I would find it hard to be in a relationship with someone who voted Remain.

SerfTerf · 23/08/2017 16:47

OP not been back at all then? Hmm

BoneyBackJefferson · 23/08/2017 16:50

fakenamefornow
None of it should be about the campaigns though, it should be about the merits of leaving the EU V remaining in the EU.

but the campaigns should have been about the merits of leaving or staying in the EU.

The whole point of campaigning is to put your point across.

histinyhandsarefrozen · 23/08/2017 16:53

I think as the situation deteriorates in march 2019, it will be difficult for passionate remainers and ardent leavers to stay in love.

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