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Speeding husband...our problems are all my fault

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MissCommunication · 12/08/2017 10:20

I don't know how or where to start. I've got another thread going about my DH driving really fast in Germany with the kids and I in the car and about his general fast driving. There is a lot else going on in our marriage and we are at a crisis point after I broached the subject of the speeding last weekend and he blew his top.

Our relationship has always been tricky. When we met he was going through a messy divorce and there was loads going on with his DD (then 9) and exW and we really suffered. I was told I made no effort and contributed a lot to the acrimony. DH (we got married 6 years ago, got together 8 years ago) has always made me feel like I do things wrong. An example early in our relationship was me going out for dinner for a friend's birthday supper. I gave an ETA not REALLY knowing how evening was going to pan out but sent regular updates becuase it was a ten course tasting menu and it was running over massively. When I got home the house was dark and he was "asleep"...you could cut the atmosphere in the bedroom with a knife and he wouldn't talk to me. Eventually told me how rude, selfish and inconsiderate I was for being later than I said.

I was training hard to get to the Olympics and he was very supportive, practically and financially (significant because I became reliant on him and have no savings of my own) and he was also dealing with a lot. I tried to be as supportive as I could but the situation became untenable and I ended it. He went ALL out to repair it so I went back. My Olympic dream shattered but a few weeks later I found out I was pregnant. Around the same time my best friend, who is a very opinionated, strong-willed and black and white person, was cut out from our lives because things blew up around her feeling he was controlling me and trapping me, and he felt she was getting in too close and was destructive. Basically he told me I wasn't to have any contact with her, which left me without my friends because she was an integral part of my group of friends and I wasn't able to see them naturally and normally. Feeling depressed and hormonal and alone throughout pregnancy and baby days, I became very unwell. I wasn't sleeping with the baby and DH was training for an Ironman. It was a terrible spiral and I became more and more depressed. When I saw my friend in the street I mentioned it to DH because I was afraid he'd find out and be angry and I felt it best to be up front, and he went off, I was begging and sobbing and so it went on, self harming and crying and not sleeping and generally awful. One day it all got too much as it was happening so often and I decided to end it all. Attempt 1. A few weeks later I tried again in my car but bottled it. To my complete and utter shame, I had also lashed out at DH and walloped him in sheer and utter frustration and hopelessness. That was unforgiveable. I felt driven into such a corner and bashing myself around the head on brick walls, rolling pins, fists, anything that came to hand was just as bad. I must say that I have never ever hurt or touched the children. Ever.

Anyway, I got medication and started to feel much better and drink a lot less. Things didn't improve in terms of the rows but I harmed less. A friend took her own life through hanging and it was a terrible shock, and I connected with DH a bit more through the sadness, although only a few weeks previously I'd planned to leave him. Cue unexpected pregnancy. I was in turmoil about whether to keep the baby given the terrible state of our marriage but I wrote a letter to him and really laid it on the line that I was choosing it and we choose each other, warts and all. He didn't acknowledge it really although we were in counselling (not that it has made much difference).

The pregnancy somehow reset me and I am no longer depressed or medicated. I am strong and feel so much better. Baby is now 1 year old and a petal. I have committed not to fight or shout in front of the children after DS (aged 5) called me a nasty woman and there's only one place he heard that. DH blames me for everything...says I don't cope, can't cope, treat him badly, treat the children badly, am inconsistent, my behaviour is disgusting etc etc. I admit that I have done things wrong. I have been moody at 8am when DH comes bouncing down the stairs at 8am when I've been up with one or both kids and the day has started at 5am for me. I wasn't given the support with DS (first baby) and felt so alone with no network around me - our families live far away (Brazil and Africa and nearest family is 2 hours away) but I am doing so much better now in every way. I admit that when DH does things that anger me such as fuck about on his phone for hours while I deal with the children and then blames me for preventing him from spending time with them, I don't talk about it and bottle it up which is probably why he says I'm nasty and moody and treat him badly.

I've done things wrong and have my flaws. I can't write any more because I never get time to myself and kids are playing up and DH will be back soon and my window of opportunity has gone now. I've left so much out but tried to be balanced. I'm sorry if this is garbled. I've not given the story from last night as I can't right now but wil update when I next get a chance.

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mathanxiety · 25/08/2017 12:48

You have to understand that he sees you as an extension of his personality, not another 3 dimensional human being. So any evidence that you have feelings and opinions, and the reminder that your body is not a thing separate from the reality of you with your feelings and opinions is an affront to him.

EasyToEatTiger · 25/08/2017 12:53

My husband used to grope me when I was asleep. And wank against me. He used to masterbate in front of me leaving me wondering if I were free to leave and feeling really uncomfortable. When I confronted him about his behaviour, he said he was showing affection and that I was his wife. He told me he would never touch me again and withdrew any affection. I still shudder at his behaviour and know now how it is to freeze sexually. It's not nice.

Kr1stina · 25/08/2017 13:06

Easytoeattiger - he sounds horrendous . Please tell me he's now your ex?

MissCommunication · 25/08/2017 14:25

Tiger that is awful. I too hope he is your ex!

We are on a day out with the three DC for DSD birthday. Baby DD got a bit close to a roaming goose but I was near enough to get her if any problem. DH ran over to grab her away from the goose and shot me a death stare...I knew it was because he thought I wasn't taking care of her. I said I was on it and he said no you were miles away. I tried to say I wasn't...I was a bit annoyed...he then spoke to me like I am a naughty child. His words: "stop your angry attitude. I won't have it. I won't stand for it." He talks to DS like that. It doesn't matter what precipitated it. His attitude to me and me pushing back against it was what did it. I'm beginning to hate him.

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thisfamily · 25/08/2017 14:32

In some ways he does not treat you differently to his own children and that's very worrying

nauticant · 25/08/2017 14:37

I knew it was because he thought I wasn't taking care of her

He didn't think this. He wanted to plant the thought in your head that this is what he thinks so that you doubt yourself over this.

Everything you are reporting is him playing mind games to fuck up your head. If you stay with him he will continue doing this in the hope of completely breaking you at some point.

It is exhausting to read. I cannot for one moment imagine how exhausting it must be to live through.

EasyToEatTiger · 25/08/2017 16:09

My husband does that kind of thing too, MissCommunication. He lauched a verbal attack on me because our then puppy tried to throw herself under a car and I was holding her lead. Pupdog was safe, but my goodness it was my fault. When my daughter attacked me, it was my fault. Absolutely my fault. Everything is my fault. I am still waiting for the police to get in touch so I can make a statement. It has been a summer from hell.

Dothedodah · 25/08/2017 17:35

Now your eyes are wide open to his abusive behaviour that feeling of hate is going to intensify.

He's horrible and nasty and you deserve to be treated with respect and love.

I hope you find the strength soon OP and put him firmly in his place and leave.

MissCommunication · 25/08/2017 18:53

It just goes on and on and on. Im exhausted.

Got home from day out. DSD was opening a present in sitting room. I was in there then popped out to put away my sunglasses. DH called me back giving me a death stare (don't leave the room and be rude while she is opening gift basically). I said I was just going out for two secs to put away glasses. Death stares etc and when I was feeling sad and looking out of the window he made a face doing an impression of me staring out of the window. He does that a lot. (A few weeks ago I'd baked DS a beautiful birthday cake and made loads of effort and it somehow got squashed. I was gutted and really sad so had a sad face. He criticised me for how I was looking and I said yes, I'm feeling sad and disappointed. So I have a sad and disappointed face. I'm allowed feelings.)

Then a few mins later DD was going upstairs with him leading the way and me following. He got to the landing and DD toddled into our room and I followed looking at her and some of his clothes on the floor. As I went by I asked him if the clothes were for washing and I don't really know what I did wrong but as I glanced back at him he sort of had his arms out to the side and then said yes they're for washing and slammed stair gates shut as he stormed off downstairs. I called down for what I'd done wrong (did he want a hug and I didn't see? I have no idea...I was just fixed on my goal of getting into room and DD ready for bed) but he just wouldn't even entertain talking to me about what had or hadn't happened. He'd already punished me for leaving the room earlier. Then was he "forgiving" me for my transgression and I didn't respond as desired?? I have no hope here any more.

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MissCommunication · 25/08/2017 18:54

I just can't move freely in my own home.

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Alittlepotofrosie · 25/08/2017 19:03

You need to remember that whatever you do or don't do, in his eyes you'll be in the wrong and he will always find grounds to treat you like shit. Leave his clothes. He can wash them. Him, his dirty keks and his tantrums are not your responsibility.

Alittlepotofrosie · 25/08/2017 19:04

Just to be clear, you didn't do ANYTHING wrong. If he wanted a hug, tough tits he's been a complete cunt to you all day. No hugs for him.

mathanxiety · 25/08/2017 19:11

Here is the Women's Aid number again - 0808 2000 247. Please call.

You are absolutely correct to say you can't win here. Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

He has set himself up as the authority to who you are accountable.

No doubt he does not treat his colleagues or clients the way he treats you.

gillybeanz · 25/08/2017 19:13

The signs were there from the beginning with the difficult divorce, which reading between the lines was probably him being difficult.
You didn't head the red flags and went ahead anyway.
It failed before it started as no woman could live like this.
He reeled you in with his offer of support, but the price was your self esteem and happiness.
Why are you still with him? You clearly hate him and nobody would blame you.

nauticant · 25/08/2017 19:13

There is absolutely no point trying to figure out what he might be thinking about in terms of anything you're doing. Try and do that and you will exhaust yourself further.

What you need to do instead is ask yourself, whenever there's these one of these (many) incidents per day, "what is his behaviour doing to me?" Most of the time the answer will be undermining you, sapping your energy, draining your confidence, making your confused, making you unahppy, etc. That's why he does what he does. It's as simple as that.

MissCommunication · 25/08/2017 19:19

I have no idea what he does with clients. It can't be that bad ashes pretty successful.

So I am starting to feel vulnerable and am casting my mind doing back a few months to some comments he made which made me feel uncomfortable but he was "joking".

After a series of rows I tried to talk and I said "what are we going to do?" He replied that he could always just kill me ha ha. Then went on to wonder how to dispose of a body. He made that joke twice more of errors the next two or three weeks and on the third time I said I don't like that joke and you've made it a few times. To be fair he hasn't done it again but I wonder if I'm starting to push back a bit now. I want out and there's a niggling worm in my mind.

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Cambionome · 25/08/2017 19:38

Oh God, op... be very, very careful. Sad

Maybe safer to go "grey rock" for a bit rather than pushing back while you're thinking about what to do. Flowers

EasyToEatTiger · 25/08/2017 20:09

You are married to a nutter. My husband too gives me death stares. Vile creature. I am going 'grey rock'. It's very hard. It's horrible for the children that I can't actually be a parent to them when my husband is around or he'll behave like a child himself and start a row. Have you been in touch with WA or the police yet? Or your gp?

Kr1stina · 25/08/2017 21:09

Please trust your intuition. Go grey rock and contact Womens aid asap.

Alittlepotofrosie · 25/08/2017 21:38

Oh my god he's bloody dangerous op.

EasyToEatTiger · 25/08/2017 23:15

When my husband left his first wife, had the door been any further open it would have fallen off its hinges. My husband said that he didn't want to get divorced the first time at all. In fact he had been a terrible husband and probably wanted the control. At the moment he keeps asking me for the marriage certificate and asking for my solicitor's name. He can Eff off on both of those. Neither are anything to do with him and he can certainly sort things out himself. He really is the monster he doesn't believe he is. To meet him, you might think he was pretty normal, but there is a gaping chasm between who he thinks he is and who he actually is.

RedastheRose · 26/08/2017 01:31

Op and easytoeattiger you are both married to emotionally abusive and most probably narcissistic husbands. Read up about the red flags and get away asap. These monsters never change and would swear black was white rather than admit they are wrong/unreasonable in any way. Any apology or nice treatment is never sincere and is only a sop to get you back on side before reverting to their true personality.

Loopytiles · 26/08/2017 07:53

Yes, please do "grey rock" technique rather than confront him. He is not going to "see the light".

The murderer partner of a children's author, and it turns out his previous partner too, was caught partly because he'd made "jokes" to friends of the kind your H has made.

Even if he has no violent intentions whatsoever "jokes" like that are threatening and abusive.

mathanxiety · 26/08/2017 08:46

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2268977-The-Abuser-Profiles
If this has already been posted, apologies.

RidingWindhorses · 26/08/2017 09:17

On the basis of his not so subtle death hints you need to make sure your details are logged with the police.

Call them on 101 and tell them you're in an abusive relationship that you're trying to leave.

It will mean that if you ever have to call them for help your phone number will be logged with them as a priority.

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