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Boyfriend is financially irresponsible. Should i leave him?

365 replies

Liongirl111 · 10/08/2017 21:23

Hello,
First time posting as i really need some unbiased relationship/life advice on this matter.
I've been with my partner for 4 years. No kids and both in our mid/late twenties.
We are very much in love and generally get on well and rarely argue over anything other than one thing... Money!!
A bit of background is that i have come from a poor background where money was a real issue growing up and the cause of soooo much stress!! As i grew up without i was determined to make something of myself. I went to uni and qualified in a very good profession and have been on no less than 30k since 22 years old (through literal blood sweat and a lot of tears) and i am now in a very stable well payed job that requires a lot of hard work.
I also live down south so prices are also a lot higher if that makes a difference?

My partner on the other hand.. Grew up very well off. His parents were able to provide him with a very good lifestyle with 3 foriegn holidays a year and everything a child could dream of.. And they're the nicest most giving people I've ever met!!
However since the day ive got with him he has not held down a steady job longer than 6 months, has no qualifications, can't drive and wont learn and has no realistic ambitions to do well or better himself and spends his money in the most selfish and unreasonable ways despite any advice given to him. For example, he'll blow his wages within the first week on a playstation , take aways, games etc. Then he'll be begging me or his parents to lend his money as he's blown his wages and in his overdrafts accuring fees. Ill refuse to lend him money but someone else will (family or mates) or he'll sell his playstation. He'll even blow his food budget and then i have to pay for his meals. He literally gets to the point where he has 0 money and 0 food and three weeks till payday, so if i don't fees him then he would literally starve (well realistically he just goes and raids his parents cupboards at their house. Their not gonna let him starve for 3 week's). Then payday comes around and he does the exact same thing again!! Never learns!!

When we first got together i did overlook this as i realised that i am the other extreme in terms of having a well paid stable job at 22 and i know a lot of young people haven't got their careers and finances together like i did. But i did think that in a few years time he'd have it sorted or at least be working towards some qualifications?? But nope! Instead he has recently lost yet another job and is back on the job hunt. Sighh.. I'm really at my wits end!!

I have however made such a stupid mistake on my part.. After 2 years of being together i made the stupid decision of moving in together and renting a house. I honestly thought us living together would give him some responsibility and a kick up the bum and he'd change. In a way he did.. He no longer walks out of jobs if he doesnt like them and holds them down until he is basically sacked (being late, being on his mobile etc). Again, i really would not expect him to be on anywhere near the same salary as me and him being on minimum wage doesn't bother me.. Its the lack of bloody work ethic and responsibility that grates me!!

All of this really makes me worry about the future.. If i were to become pregnant then i would have no choice but to go back to work full time and not even just because i earn more but because he'd have us down the shitter otherwise.

I have tried everything to help him with his finances.. Making him spreadsheets, taking through his budgets.. At one point i even got his full wage given to me and i split it into 4 weeks and gave him it weekly to stop the impulsive spending but that didnt work as he'd blow the weekly spends that same day and beg for the week afters money due to overdraft fees!!

His parents know exactly how he is and they try and talk to him and kick him into touch but it doesn't work. And why would it? He knows that if he loses his job then ill just pay the bills (i have no choices really do i? Can't let myself get into arrears because of him). And even if i took a stand and didn't pay a bill, i really dont think it would bother him as in his mind worst case scenario is we'd get evicted and just move in with his mum and dad!! They have a nice big ass house with plenty of food and nice things so there would be no punishment or real consequence for him i suppose!

His attitude towards money/work is really turning into a deal breaker and im starting to feel resentful. He has everything growing up and i had nothing. I would have killed for his opportunities but he's not bothered with a single one. Yet i am the one essentially supporting him despite having the poorer start in life. I feel like if anything it should have been the other way around?

Also i must add his siblings are the complete opposite to him and are all working well paid jobs and been to uni, so it can't be his parents spoiling him as the cause?

So why am i with him?? Because every other aspect of our relationship is perfect. He is very loyal and loving. Treats me so well im every other aspect. We both fancy each other loads still and are very connected emotionally. I adore his family, i feel like they're my own and he adores mine.

I can't imagine breaking up with someone purely over money when there are no other issues. It sounds shallow and cold. But at the same time, can you honestly have a long term relationship with marriage and children in the future, with someone who can't/wont hold down a steady job?!

OP posts:
Superhotpoet · 12/10/2017 12:43

Hi Lion, I have just read your thread and I kept waiting for someone to relate it to the Karpman drama triangle, I requested a new password to do it when I saw that your counsellor has done it. I so relate to your post, especially being the family rescuer far too young and then continuing this dynamic in other types of relationships. To be fair it's often beneficial in a career sense as you are the problem solver and this gets you up the career ladder fast. (Got to guard against burnout though). A few points from me, first, I too became really physically ill before stepping out of the drama triangle, different situation but same dynamic, it was hard to be physically weak for a while but I came to see the illness as a blessing in retrospect. Secondly, someone made the point a little while back about not allowing your mother to use you as the rescuer again when she sees you as being 'available ' I once made the mistake of letting my family member know that I had literally 1 hour a week on my own in the house. Guess what? The phone rang at 1 minute past that time with tales of woe that I was meant to resolve , they saw an opening and took mental note of it. This went on until the third week when I just unplugged the phone. The excellent news is that I broke the dynamic and my DH definitely does not need to be rescued! That brings a few problems as we are both happier leading but mostly it works really well, we met as we were in the same profession. Last point, your worries about being lonely without his family, who was it that actually came through for you when you were ill? It was your friend. Good luck, you've got success stamped all over you.

Snuper · 12/10/2017 13:06

I think I’d contact his mother to remove his items and cut him out of the arrangements altogether...

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 12/10/2017 13:48

Deary me OP, what an absolute pillock he has proven himself to me with that latest 'declaration'!

Well done you for kicking him out, I agree with other posters - block him and feel the waves of relief.

Gemini69 · 12/10/2017 14:04

Good grief ... you did good Flowers

swampytiggaa · 12/10/2017 14:18

You are amazing x

SonicBoomBoom · 12/10/2017 14:37

Well done OP.

You'll be able to enjoy the fruits of your own success now, rather than being handicapped by the man holding and having to work twice as hard as others just to tread water.

JoJoSM2 · 12/10/2017 15:30

With regards to furniture, just advertise it on Freecycle or some other website. People can come and collect it.

Liongirl111 · 12/10/2017 15:45

Well he's just rang me again. Called to complain about his job and how hes gonna start looking for a new one. Then asking if can go out tomorrow evening. Then asking why we can't get back together. Then saying i loved him conditionally whereas he loved me unconditionally with no expectations. I started to try and make him see my point but then stopped myself. He doesn't get it. Each time i speak to him in impacts upon my mood. Tomorrow im going to pack up the rest of his things and organise his stuff to be removed.

I feel so positive then he contacts me and i feel a bit crap. I never regret my decision but it's impacting my forward focus.
Time to action plan sorting the finalizations of the split. The furniture needs to go. Contact needs to be cut. Sighhh.

OP posts:
FinallyHere · 12/10/2017 15:51

g i loved him conditionally whereas he loved me unconditionally with no expectations

...no expectations other than you financing his lifestyle, enabling him to remain a child. Might be time to start laughing at his nonsense, then block.

As for sending his stuff back, give him two days notice, then just leave it at all the boundary of your property. Then get on with your life, its going to be great.

Roussette · 12/10/2017 15:57

He does not love you unconditionally!

He loves you on condition you finance him.

He's got that statement the wrong way round

Gemini69 · 12/10/2017 16:05

He's starting to sound like a DICK OP.. kicking and screaming like a spoiled brat that's just found out Santa's not real... and life costs money..

Keep focused Lady... your not his Mother Flowers

dogfish1 · 12/10/2017 16:47

Am a bloke myself. Agree with the others. If you end up with this guy it will just get worse and you'll resent him more with time as his behaviour starts to have greater and greater consequences, your friends are getting their own places and you are stuck in second gear. Eventually you will become homicidal, suicidal or both.

Whereas after you dump him he may in fact man up and make something of himself in a way that he can't with you there as his security blanket. This story has been told in countless songs, including You Can't Always Get What You Want.

He will find this a very painful process but ultimately he can't dodge it forever.

PickAChew · 12/10/2017 16:58

And there was me hoping that your much needed rant at him might have hit home. Time to tell him to sod off and if his furniture isn't gone by the weekend, it's going outside for anyone to have. He'll keep it there as an excuse to contact you, otherwise.

Fluffycloudland77 · 12/10/2017 17:01

How unattractive of him.

I wouldn't bother keeping in touch with his family, families come as packages.

Sweetbell · 12/10/2017 17:11

Well don't op on breaking up with this man child (literally) and getting him out of your now content peaceful home.
But unfortunately he is still attempting to chip away at your newfound contentment while you are ill!
He's like a toddler stamping his feet wanting back into the relationship'I want I want' 'I was happy I want' 'stop talking boring stuff I want'

He'll never see the need to support himself properly because he knows he doesn't need to.
The next step in this breakup is to not entertain anymore phone calls or doorstep beggings

If he calls again don't answer just reply by text with a 'collect by x date your remaining belongings or I'll have to donate items'
If he shows up to beg a swift ' look its over please leave' then close door. ( repeat as necessary)

Be really firm & definitely no more explaining to him how you wished he'd be (a grown up) he doesn't want to hear it!
He knows well why you ended relationship he's just demanding to be let back because in his head like a child his needs trump yours

Sweetbell · 12/10/2017 17:12

Well done OP

InvisibleKittenAttack · 12/10/2017 17:12

You dont love him unconditionally - well there you go, he needs to find someone who does, that's not you! It's not just that he's not right for you, you are not right for him. Best all round if you don't stay together.

antimatter · 12/10/2017 17:20

I ended up choosing my ex who was quite immature in some way. Not as bad as yours, he did helped me when I was unwell but in many other ways was (and still is at 50+ a child ☹️).

I realised I was using him and his issues as an excuse to not face my childhood trauma. Mothering someone is a way to look after the inner child we all carry within us. You need to (as I have) get angry at those who were responsible adults and didn't look after you. You have right to acknowledge your mother, father and others for not protecting you and not looking after you.
Your therapist is going to help you to get through this process. Doing it made me more calm and mature adults in my 40's. I wish I've done it sooner!
It also enabled me to find a partner who is mature and compatible with me. And there's no drama in my relationship any more. Life is too stressful for those.

Hissy · 12/10/2017 18:01

Where as he on the other hand only loves you when:

  • you’re bank rolling him,
  • you’re indulging him and his “career”
  • when you’re well and not asking for anything remotely like support
  • you’re well enough to make your own cuppa tea.

I’m glad you’ve seen him for what he is. He’s a thoroughly sorry and mean individual

No wonder his parents thought the world of you, they thought you’d take him off their hands!

Go ballistic at him, block him and give him 24 hours to get his stuff or it will be skipped.

Hissy · 12/10/2017 18:02

Perhaps not in that exact order.. block him when the stuff is gone Grin

Mix56 · 12/10/2017 18:19

If he loves you unconditionally, where was he when you were sick ? everyone is enabling him.
He is a cock lodger, it ends there.

Trills · 12/10/2017 20:12

He loves you unconditionally.

Well, who gives a shit?

Being with him made you unhappy. If he really loved you unconditionally he'd want you to be happy even if that happiness meant not being with him.

He doesn't want that, ergo he is talking bollocks.

NameWithChange · 12/10/2017 20:23

Oh he's not getting his own way anymore, and his future isn't looking as easy as it has been for the last few years.

Well done op, the hard bit is over now. Just quietly block him, avoid, and look forward to your bright future where all your hard work will pay dividends - to you!!! Wine

cheminotte · 12/10/2017 21:09

Well done on getting rid liongirl . Hope you feel better soon.
I agree with a deadline to remove remaining items and then give to charity - didn't you say he was very charity minded?!
Then block and beware of his family trying to intervene on his behalf.

JellyMouldJnr · 13/10/2017 07:08

Lionsgirl it is so lovely to read how happy and positive you are now. Definitely cut contact with him now. His feelings are not your responsibility . There is no need for you to keep explaining to him why it’s over.