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Boyfriend is financially irresponsible. Should i leave him?

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Liongirl111 · 10/08/2017 21:23

Hello,
First time posting as i really need some unbiased relationship/life advice on this matter.
I've been with my partner for 4 years. No kids and both in our mid/late twenties.
We are very much in love and generally get on well and rarely argue over anything other than one thing... Money!!
A bit of background is that i have come from a poor background where money was a real issue growing up and the cause of soooo much stress!! As i grew up without i was determined to make something of myself. I went to uni and qualified in a very good profession and have been on no less than 30k since 22 years old (through literal blood sweat and a lot of tears) and i am now in a very stable well payed job that requires a lot of hard work.
I also live down south so prices are also a lot higher if that makes a difference?

My partner on the other hand.. Grew up very well off. His parents were able to provide him with a very good lifestyle with 3 foriegn holidays a year and everything a child could dream of.. And they're the nicest most giving people I've ever met!!
However since the day ive got with him he has not held down a steady job longer than 6 months, has no qualifications, can't drive and wont learn and has no realistic ambitions to do well or better himself and spends his money in the most selfish and unreasonable ways despite any advice given to him. For example, he'll blow his wages within the first week on a playstation , take aways, games etc. Then he'll be begging me or his parents to lend his money as he's blown his wages and in his overdrafts accuring fees. Ill refuse to lend him money but someone else will (family or mates) or he'll sell his playstation. He'll even blow his food budget and then i have to pay for his meals. He literally gets to the point where he has 0 money and 0 food and three weeks till payday, so if i don't fees him then he would literally starve (well realistically he just goes and raids his parents cupboards at their house. Their not gonna let him starve for 3 week's). Then payday comes around and he does the exact same thing again!! Never learns!!

When we first got together i did overlook this as i realised that i am the other extreme in terms of having a well paid stable job at 22 and i know a lot of young people haven't got their careers and finances together like i did. But i did think that in a few years time he'd have it sorted or at least be working towards some qualifications?? But nope! Instead he has recently lost yet another job and is back on the job hunt. Sighh.. I'm really at my wits end!!

I have however made such a stupid mistake on my part.. After 2 years of being together i made the stupid decision of moving in together and renting a house. I honestly thought us living together would give him some responsibility and a kick up the bum and he'd change. In a way he did.. He no longer walks out of jobs if he doesnt like them and holds them down until he is basically sacked (being late, being on his mobile etc). Again, i really would not expect him to be on anywhere near the same salary as me and him being on minimum wage doesn't bother me.. Its the lack of bloody work ethic and responsibility that grates me!!

All of this really makes me worry about the future.. If i were to become pregnant then i would have no choice but to go back to work full time and not even just because i earn more but because he'd have us down the shitter otherwise.

I have tried everything to help him with his finances.. Making him spreadsheets, taking through his budgets.. At one point i even got his full wage given to me and i split it into 4 weeks and gave him it weekly to stop the impulsive spending but that didnt work as he'd blow the weekly spends that same day and beg for the week afters money due to overdraft fees!!

His parents know exactly how he is and they try and talk to him and kick him into touch but it doesn't work. And why would it? He knows that if he loses his job then ill just pay the bills (i have no choices really do i? Can't let myself get into arrears because of him). And even if i took a stand and didn't pay a bill, i really dont think it would bother him as in his mind worst case scenario is we'd get evicted and just move in with his mum and dad!! They have a nice big ass house with plenty of food and nice things so there would be no punishment or real consequence for him i suppose!

His attitude towards money/work is really turning into a deal breaker and im starting to feel resentful. He has everything growing up and i had nothing. I would have killed for his opportunities but he's not bothered with a single one. Yet i am the one essentially supporting him despite having the poorer start in life. I feel like if anything it should have been the other way around?

Also i must add his siblings are the complete opposite to him and are all working well paid jobs and been to uni, so it can't be his parents spoiling him as the cause?

So why am i with him?? Because every other aspect of our relationship is perfect. He is very loyal and loving. Treats me so well im every other aspect. We both fancy each other loads still and are very connected emotionally. I adore his family, i feel like they're my own and he adores mine.

I can't imagine breaking up with someone purely over money when there are no other issues. It sounds shallow and cold. But at the same time, can you honestly have a long term relationship with marriage and children in the future, with someone who can't/wont hold down a steady job?!

OP posts:
Softkitty2 · 08/10/2017 11:56

As the song goes "love is not enough". The bills will come monthly, if you are the breadwinner are you ok going back to work full time after you give birth and him being the SAHP?

Trills · 08/10/2017 12:47

You are completely able to look after yourself.

You'll be fine.

You'll be better than fine.

You were already taking care of all of the practicalities of life, now without him to drag you down you'll have more money and time to do things for you.

ICESTAR · 08/10/2017 17:51

Op I've read all your posts from start to finish and I just wanted to say how strong you are and what a wise head you have on them shoulders.

Your new life starts now. Congratulations. Spend your time how you want now.

Gemini69 · 08/10/2017 18:39

good lord Lady... I've just read this entire Thread...

Credit to you Lady... onwards and upwards Flowers

MorgaineLeFay · 08/10/2017 20:08

Just read the whole thread. Sorry to hear that you are poorly, Flowers for you.

I am glad to hear that you are finally ditching this parasite though. He doesn't love you, you don't treat the people you love like that.

You sound strong, together and capable and there will be someone out there who matches you and is worthy of you. For now just focus on getting well and getting rid. Enjoy your life and the peace of mind you will have from not stressing about him all the time. Give yourself time to heal. The freedom programme is a good idea.

Onwards and upwards, you got this. Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

BlueNeighbourhood1 · 08/10/2017 21:43

I've also read the full thread tonight, you've done completely the right thing and I totally admire your strength.

I hope you update us in the coming weeks about what is going on too.

theendisnotnigh · 08/10/2017 22:27

Another one who's just read the whole thread. Well done on being strong enough to leave.
I hope that you take the time you need. Find time for small treats for yourself and create yourself a home that gives you pleasure. There will be plenty of time in the future to find a relationship of equals.
Your determination shines through. Flowers

recklessgran · 08/10/2017 22:33

Cocklodger. Run for the hills. He won't change.

LaContessaDiPlump · 08/10/2017 22:39

Yay - I remember your story and am very glad you've decided to ditch him! He may well grow up one day, but he certainly won't with you and his parents as an umbilical cord.

Are you feeling a bit less sick now? Hope so Thanks

Appuskidu · 08/10/2017 22:43

I hope his parents are ashamed of him!

Madreputa · 08/10/2017 22:46

PlayStation? Games? Takeaways?
Are you living with a 16-year old?

MrsZippyLake · 08/10/2017 23:18

I’ve just read your entire thread and I am so happy you’re leaving him. From the first post, it was clear to me that he was a selfish man-child who would be a millstone around your neck.

I do hope you get better soon although i have a sneaking suspicion that over the years to come, you will be forever grateful for this illness, which meant that you saw his true colours emerge earlier than you might otherwise have done so.

As a parent myself, I cannot explain just how catastrophic it would have been to have had children with him. He would be on his play station while you were run ragged probably resulting in a nervous breakdown.

It is excellent news that you’re leaving him and if you need mumsnet’s support over the coming weeks and months, we will all be here for you.

NameWithChange · 09/10/2017 23:35

So, so SO well done!

Future Liongirl111 will look back and be so grateful to you in years to come 😊

Liongirl111 · 11/10/2017 17:43

Thank you all for your lovely and thoughtful messages. Really empowering and supportive.

Sooo.. He moved out on the weekend and handed over the keys. It was emotional and i was crying for about an hour or so when my friend called for a chat and literally within minutes i felt miles better.
Surprisingly there was no hysterical crying or taking to my bed to mop and cry for hours/days on end. I really expected myself to feel a million times worse than i have. I thought i would be in unbearable pain but apparently not.

I went to see my therapist on Monday. i decided i would down from start to finish the timeline of the relationship with the issues from when we first me up until today. I went through the whole thing with her and how i came to my decision. Ober the weeks we've focused more on my childhood and hardly anything on my relationship which she brushed off, as she was more concerned with my past.
Once she had heard everything in detail (i left nothing out). You know what she said? We were in a 'drama triangle' where i was the rescuer and he was the victim. If i did not rescue him then his parents would. Because of this it wouldn't have worked as there are 2 enablers. Even if i had stopped giving him a penny point blank, he still wouldn't have changed. Because he would just turn to his parents. He sees himself as a child still and everyone else as the 'grown up'. This is why he feels no shame in me paying for things. Subconsciously hes the child and im the adult and thats what adults do.. Pay for things. Hearing all of thism reconfirmed in my mind what i knew. I made the right decision.

Although its early days, since he left i don't feel heartbroken. I feel relieved?
I no longer have to worry about his bank balance. I never again have to hear about him losing a job. I can plan a future as lovely as i want it to be without having to tone it down because of someone else. For example... When food shopping i wouldnt buy the luxury posh foods i like.. Because he would just eat it when i went out and replace it with value stuff after a blazing row. Now? I can buy as much luxury as i wish and no one will eat it.

Another example? When fantasized of my future it was very much centered around us as a couple. Therefore when i thought about kids/marriage i would be thinking.. Well i can't get married at such and such as he would never be able to afford it and id be stuck paying for the whole wedding. Therefore I'll make do with xyz. When it came to children.. Well i wont be able to take them to such and such on holiday as my wage alone couldn't afford it.. I will have to make do with going xyz. I'll never be able to work part time as we would never afford it.

Now? I can literally dream as big as i like. When i think of the future i think i will NEVER let myself date someone who has a different lifestyle and values to my own. I know for a fact that I wouldn't want to be the breadwinner now. I would want equal partnership. I don't want to waste another year not buying nice clothes and pampering myself or going to certain places because someone else cant afford it. The next man i let into my life will have to have the same wants/needs as me. I love weekends away and nice restaurants.. But i would have to make do with pub lunches as he didn't have any cash and i would be paying for two. I can see how much i sacrificed for someone else who made no sacrifices. His life was massively enhanced by me and he got a lot of benefits out of it. Where were my benefits?? The whole reason i worked my ass off from childhood to get where i am was so that i could live a certain lifestyle and not have to worry about money again or live in poverty. Even when thinking of buying a house with him, realistically it would all be in my name as he never holds down a job long enough to have proof of 6+ months earnings. Therefore i would never live in a house i truly wanted unless i saved and scraped by.. Then he would get the benefit of living in a nice mortgaged house, without contributing? Hell no!! At least now as i work towards buying my first home even if its a small box, at least its 100% mine and my hard work!! No one can mooch off of it without putting in any effort!!

I also am actually excited at the prospect of being on my own.. Spoiling myself and not having to think about anyone else anymore. Selfish i know!

Sorry for the massive rambling!! Once i start i can't stop!! My main worry however now.. Is that i don't stay feeling like this?! That suddenly I'll get a delayed response in grieving and it'll hit me in a few weeks time causing me great distress. However i am currently off work.. Poorly.. In the house on my own 24/7 and feel.. Content. Surely now would be the time i would feel awful if ever? I have no distractions so i have to face my emotions.. Yet my emotions are 90% positivity and excitement!

I really hope it stays like this. I have booked up my diary with social activities on the weekends for the next few weeks. Gives me something to look forward. Ive even booked myself in for a pamper/spa day next week. All on my own!!

Thank you so much for your advice ladies. I followed everything you all said and feel a weight has been lifted. I don't think i realised just how stressed out i was in the relationship for me to be feeling this way!

You all have my forever gratitude!!

OP posts:
ShesNoNormanPace · 11/10/2017 17:49

My main worry however now.. Is that i don't stay feeling like this?!

So at the moment you are off work really ill and your long term BF has just moved out and already feel like you could conquer the world? I imagine once you are back on your feet and back at work you'll be feeling even better Grin Onwards and upwards I say Flowers

Liongirl111 · 11/10/2017 18:18

Thank you @normanpace
That's been my train of thought.. I'm isolated and ill and just gone through a breakup after 4 years. Surely I'd feel it now?

The day i started this thread i felt low. The second it was posted right up until the break up, i felt awful. I think that's because the day i posted this thread.. I ended it subconsciously. I would literally wake up with heartache.. Cry for no reason.. I felt so alone and upset. I think that was me grieving the relationship?? Then when it actually ended i felt.. Relief. Excitement at the possibilities. The dull grief i had felt on my shoulders since i posted this thread instantly lifted.

The breakup has also been amicable. He's called and asked for me back every day since last week.. But the thought of being stuck back in the dead end relationship being a parent to a grown man fills me with dread. He is a lovely guy as a friend but not as a partner. I've finally accepted this.

OP posts:
paq · 11/10/2017 18:24

Really lovely update OP, wishing you every luck and happiness for your bright future. Let us know how you get on.

TemptressofWaikiki · 11/10/2017 18:43

OP, you're amazing. I am so excited for you and your brighter future. Although, I don't wish anyone an illness, in your case, it was a saving grace. You could see for the first time that he was not a nice or kind man but an entitled overgrown man-child who is ruthlessly selfish and until then did just enough to keep you as his cash cow. He will soon enough move on to someone else or continue to sponge of his parents. So pleased that you’re pampering yourself and looking out for yourself. No selfish at all. You’re working hard for this and deserve it all!

Appuskidu · 11/10/2017 18:48

How was he about having to leave? What about his parents? Will they subsidise him to the extent you have been-will they give him plenty of money to play with? Odd questions, maybe but I'm just intrigued to know how they are thinking-does he feel hard done by or that you were being unreasonable or unwell and will change your mind?

Well done you though- you can get on with living your life now!

Cambionome · 11/10/2017 18:51

Well done op! You are an absolute star!!!StarStarStar

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InvisibleKittenAttack · 11/10/2017 19:32

I think you are probably right that you've been getting over the relationship for several days already, and most importantly you know this is the right thing for you.

Onecall · 11/10/2017 19:35

That is a fantastic update.

Sad for him although he will probably never change even though he has lost a relationship over his irresponsible ways.

Gemini69 · 11/10/2017 20:41

OooooOOOooh I do love a Happy Ending Lady Flowers

p.s. Get well soon Grin

SugarMiceInTheRain · 11/10/2017 20:44

Fantastic update. Well done you! Onwards and upwards from here Flowers

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