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Boyfriend is financially irresponsible. Should i leave him?

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Liongirl111 · 10/08/2017 21:23

Hello,
First time posting as i really need some unbiased relationship/life advice on this matter.
I've been with my partner for 4 years. No kids and both in our mid/late twenties.
We are very much in love and generally get on well and rarely argue over anything other than one thing... Money!!
A bit of background is that i have come from a poor background where money was a real issue growing up and the cause of soooo much stress!! As i grew up without i was determined to make something of myself. I went to uni and qualified in a very good profession and have been on no less than 30k since 22 years old (through literal blood sweat and a lot of tears) and i am now in a very stable well payed job that requires a lot of hard work.
I also live down south so prices are also a lot higher if that makes a difference?

My partner on the other hand.. Grew up very well off. His parents were able to provide him with a very good lifestyle with 3 foriegn holidays a year and everything a child could dream of.. And they're the nicest most giving people I've ever met!!
However since the day ive got with him he has not held down a steady job longer than 6 months, has no qualifications, can't drive and wont learn and has no realistic ambitions to do well or better himself and spends his money in the most selfish and unreasonable ways despite any advice given to him. For example, he'll blow his wages within the first week on a playstation , take aways, games etc. Then he'll be begging me or his parents to lend his money as he's blown his wages and in his overdrafts accuring fees. Ill refuse to lend him money but someone else will (family or mates) or he'll sell his playstation. He'll even blow his food budget and then i have to pay for his meals. He literally gets to the point where he has 0 money and 0 food and three weeks till payday, so if i don't fees him then he would literally starve (well realistically he just goes and raids his parents cupboards at their house. Their not gonna let him starve for 3 week's). Then payday comes around and he does the exact same thing again!! Never learns!!

When we first got together i did overlook this as i realised that i am the other extreme in terms of having a well paid stable job at 22 and i know a lot of young people haven't got their careers and finances together like i did. But i did think that in a few years time he'd have it sorted or at least be working towards some qualifications?? But nope! Instead he has recently lost yet another job and is back on the job hunt. Sighh.. I'm really at my wits end!!

I have however made such a stupid mistake on my part.. After 2 years of being together i made the stupid decision of moving in together and renting a house. I honestly thought us living together would give him some responsibility and a kick up the bum and he'd change. In a way he did.. He no longer walks out of jobs if he doesnt like them and holds them down until he is basically sacked (being late, being on his mobile etc). Again, i really would not expect him to be on anywhere near the same salary as me and him being on minimum wage doesn't bother me.. Its the lack of bloody work ethic and responsibility that grates me!!

All of this really makes me worry about the future.. If i were to become pregnant then i would have no choice but to go back to work full time and not even just because i earn more but because he'd have us down the shitter otherwise.

I have tried everything to help him with his finances.. Making him spreadsheets, taking through his budgets.. At one point i even got his full wage given to me and i split it into 4 weeks and gave him it weekly to stop the impulsive spending but that didnt work as he'd blow the weekly spends that same day and beg for the week afters money due to overdraft fees!!

His parents know exactly how he is and they try and talk to him and kick him into touch but it doesn't work. And why would it? He knows that if he loses his job then ill just pay the bills (i have no choices really do i? Can't let myself get into arrears because of him). And even if i took a stand and didn't pay a bill, i really dont think it would bother him as in his mind worst case scenario is we'd get evicted and just move in with his mum and dad!! They have a nice big ass house with plenty of food and nice things so there would be no punishment or real consequence for him i suppose!

His attitude towards money/work is really turning into a deal breaker and im starting to feel resentful. He has everything growing up and i had nothing. I would have killed for his opportunities but he's not bothered with a single one. Yet i am the one essentially supporting him despite having the poorer start in life. I feel like if anything it should have been the other way around?

Also i must add his siblings are the complete opposite to him and are all working well paid jobs and been to uni, so it can't be his parents spoiling him as the cause?

So why am i with him?? Because every other aspect of our relationship is perfect. He is very loyal and loving. Treats me so well im every other aspect. We both fancy each other loads still and are very connected emotionally. I adore his family, i feel like they're my own and he adores mine.

I can't imagine breaking up with someone purely over money when there are no other issues. It sounds shallow and cold. But at the same time, can you honestly have a long term relationship with marriage and children in the future, with someone who can't/wont hold down a steady job?!

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Liongirl111 · 20/08/2017 21:11

Thought id check in with an update.

I went to therapy yesterday for the first time. The therapist seemed nice enough. I ended up telling her things i haven't told anyway and have been deep dark secrets. In a way it all kinda burst out as id keeping it hidden so long. Then afterwards i got in my car and regretted it. In hindsight i had wished id waited a few sessions to get to know and trust her more. Now theres someone walking around with my biggest secrets who i dont know from adam. Scary!! Is this a normal way to feel.

On the boyfriend front. Hes got a job doing his hobby. I wonder how long it will last this time? I told my best friend yesterday and she was more wound up than me. How many times can one person keep going back to the same damn thing?! She's been my best friend since day 1 so knows exactly how many times he's tried and failed and cannot get over how years later he is still hot on it?! Can anyone out there explain this behaviour?!

Funnily enough i was working with a close colleague the other day who is twice my age and a bit of a mother hen. We were talking about relationships in general and she told me she doesnt think my partner is the one. I asked her why as she's never met him and she said by the way i talk about him she can tell. She also told me she can see me with someone a bit older than me and also a professional and she doesn't think me and my current partner will work out long term. I dont know why but it kinda hit me in the chest a bit. I must be giving off negative vibes about my relationship to people. Although some people say we are the perfect match as hes so laid back and im a worrier/uptight so we balance each other out.

I came home from work one day last week and his mum was at our house unexpectedly as she was in the area. When i got back her and my boyfriend were cleaning. This annoyed me as if i knew she was going to be coming over there wouldn't have been an overflowing laundry basket amd the breakfast pots wouldnt still be in the sink!!! If anyone pops over i always quickly do the basics. Anyway she then started to tell me about us needing a washing line in the garden instead of a clothes horse to get the clothes dried quicker. This rattled me and i told her to tell him not me as im not his mum and I'm at work all day. Why is it my job to do that??? She agreed and told him he needs to do more of the housework as im workinh and he should get a washing line the next day and do the house chores more. I still dont think she entirley got it though. She does really mean well though and hasnt a bad bone in her body, she was genuinely trying to help but it still did annoy me.

I'm still undecided on what exactly im going to do, when I'm going to do it and how. I have grown distant from him and feel so upset all the time. Its like mentally im going through a break up. Is it possible to break up with someone in your head and not in real life? And go through all the emotions and heartache when they're sat right there?
Im really hoping this counselling will help me get things clear. I have another session tomorrow night.

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Liongirl111 · 20/08/2017 21:14

Sorry for the spelling mistakes. Im on my mobile! X

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CurlJunkie · 20/08/2017 23:19

@Liongirl111 I'm so so glad you've come back with an update. Yes it's possible to break up with someone in your head. That's what happened with me & my ex for similar reasons to you. He was a feckless fool and I'd reached an age when I needed to start thinking about having kids fast or it would never happen.

It took ages to break up properly as I felt so guilty. He kept telling me how much I'd broken his heart and pleading him to give him a second chance. Eventually he got nasty & started trying to tell me I owed him money as he'd been paying me rent which had gone towards my mortgage - what a tool!

Don't feel too bad about telling your therapist everything. You must have felt comfortable at the time or else you wouldn't have said so much.

Please keep talking on here & keep us updated. Fwiw I think you are doing the right thing. Everything is heading towards a break up. You seem to have already disengaged your heart and mind, the rest will naturally follow.

MrsTerryPratchett · 21/08/2017 02:44

Is it possible to break up with someone in your head and not in real life? Yes. I did with my exDH. By the time we actually broke up, I was pretty fine. I'd done my mourning and grieving while we were unhappy.

CurlJunkie · 25/08/2017 11:10

@Liongirl111 how are things now?

Liongirl111 · 06/10/2017 07:41

@UPDATE:

Thought id come back with a big update. So ive continued with counselling amd during this my counsellor actually suggested in a roundabout way that men take longer to mature and to stick it out??? Give myself a deadline but that love is what makes you happy in the long term etc. So i listened and went on the holiday ans reasoned things would work out in the end.. The holiday was okay, however i realised we have nothing in common really and neither of us did the things we probably would've done with people who had the same interests. I reflected on my therapy and relationship and kinda thought 'well this is it now forever' and sortaaccepted it.

He got a full time job doing his hobby believe it or not that pays okay and in the field he dreams of. He was really happy for a few weeks.. However i still knew it wouldn't work out for him long term due to how he is. Now? Hes still there but no longer likes his boss or his hours and is looking for a new job!!! Knew it.

The one thing that made me stay despite the jobs, money amd childish behaviour was his 'heart of gold'.. It was my only justification.. At least he would be by my side in sickness and in health right? ...until i got sick. Unfortunately ill health has taken over these past few weeks and ive been off work. He has not looked after me at all. Not so much as made me a cup of tea!! His excuse? He works awkward hours so is tired!! Apparently its alright for me as i get to stay in bed whilst hes at work... Im off sick for fucks sake!! Was in hospital!! He doesnt give a shit. It all came to a head last night when he refused to go to the shop for me so i had to go despite being on bedrest. I came home from the shop knackered.. Packed my bag and my friend picked me up. Its over.

Im now poorly at her house. Shes going away today for the weekend but has given me keys to her place to stay. Im gonna have to try and get him out of the house whilst being poorly. Its so overwhelming :(

He's doing the usual constant texting and calling but its useless. Its done now. I just don't know how to get him out the house when im this sick. I have no strength. Ill stay at my friends over weekend but cant stay long term. I know he won't leave without a fight. Why now? When im sick do i decide to leave?? Damn. But at least the end has started.

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kalinkafoxtrot45 · 06/10/2017 08:02

Sounds like you will be well rid of this selfish manchild.

Liongirl111 · 06/10/2017 08:19

Thanks kalinka.. I think so too. For the first time ever in our relationship i can see the wood from the trees. Its like this illness comes with wisdom! Lol.

Im back at doctors this morning. Going to get a sick note for longer.. I need to hey rid of this sickness so i can be strong enough to get this over and done with. He keeps texting hes sorry and blah blah blah.

I will never get the imagine of him playing fifa whilst i was left to fend for myself and go to the shops because he refused out of my head. I have a huge temperature and been in bed for days but i had to force myself to go as i needed some stuff for my meds.

Its funny that im physically so weak but mentally feel stronger than ever.

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JustGettingStarted · 06/10/2017 09:36

It's great that you've ended it. I knew from your first post that you should.

IggyAce · 06/10/2017 10:54

Aww OP I hope you are back to full health soon. Return home Monday tell him it's over and he needs to leave. Contact a locksmith and have locks changed while he is at work with the help of a friend pack all his stuff up ready and waiting in the hall way.

CockacidalManiac · 06/10/2017 11:01

Sorry that you’re feeling so Ill, but you’ve done the right thing. He sounds like an arse.

Rainbowqueeen · 06/10/2017 11:07

Focus on getting well

Ask a friend to help you out by getting the locks changed.

Your future looks bright. Well done and get better soon!

bibliomania · 06/10/2017 11:16

Lucky you've seen him for what he really is. It's not about the money, it's about the underlying selfishness. He was happy to live off you, happy to take advantage of you putting in the hard yards without doing so himself, and now he won't help you when you're sick. He's always, always the taker, never the giver.

So glad you can get out now before you have a mortgage and a baby.

Fluffy40 · 06/10/2017 11:26

You sound far too good for him, he sounds like a thirteen year old, sorry

Fluffy40 · 06/10/2017 11:29

Apologies, didn’t read your update, get well soon.

Liongirl111 · 06/10/2017 11:31

Thank you for your kind words and that's what im thinking.

I have spoke to him this morning and his mum. He is going to move his stuff out over the weekend. Ive offered to pay all delivery and moving costs too as i just want him gone. His mum is understanding. He is flipping between understanding and anger.

On the holiday he demonstrated a lot of selfish traits.. We put our money together for spending money as we were doing everything together. However whenever i would take a nap or he would pop to the local shop he would go and spend a tone of money on himself. So even though we started off with loads of money by the end of the trip we were skint as he had spent lots on himself slyly without my knowing and would tell me afterwards. I also put in most the spending money too!! Things like this make me wanna punch him in the face.

With all things considered Ive given it my best shot so there will hopefully be no 'what ifs'.

I've been to the doctors and given stronger medications:(

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Motoko · 06/10/2017 14:54

When I became ill, five years ago, my DH had to take over the household tasks. He does everything, cooking, cleaning (although we've got a cleaner for a couple of hours a week now), shopping etc, as well as his full time job, and periods of illness himself. Compare that to your (now ex) partner. It's shocking that he couldn't even be bothered to make you a cuppa.

I'm sorry you had to get ill to see what everyone here could see. I wish you a speedy recovery and hope he doesn't cause problems with him leaving. I'm glad you've spoken to his mum, as I was going to suggest speaking to his parents.

5rivers7hills · 06/10/2017 15:36

Sorry you've been ill and unhappy but glad you've chucked the looser.

Liongirl111 · 06/10/2017 16:10

Im having to sort out his moving this weekend. Going to his parents tonignt to meet him there and sort a few things then going straight to counselling.

I can't lie i am feeling so down right now at the thought of being on my own. Its scary with limited family and stability. I keep telling myself Ive got great friends, good career and car. Just the fear of the unknown i guess. I'm sure it'll all work out in the end though. Just gotta get through the period of heartache first. X

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Fishface77 · 06/10/2017 16:27

I've been watching your thread from the beginning. Well done op. You need to look after yourself x

bigfatbumfreak · 06/10/2017 16:47

They never change they only get worse, you will have kids, he will do nil and expect you to work.

He's a sap, bin him and get someone you can be a team with.

bigfatbumfreak · 06/10/2017 16:48

Sorry late post.

DontMentionTheWar · 06/10/2017 17:46

Well done OP, I've been watching this thread from the beginning and hoping you'd leave this loser. So pleased you've seen through him and his selfish, using ways. You sound very together and capable, I know it will be scary being on your own but I really feel good things are now around the corner for you. Good luck!

Motoko · 07/10/2017 09:23

It will be scary, and you will be sad, but time heals. You will get through this.

Think of the plus sides, you'll be better off financially, won't have his mess to clean up, you can have control of the TV, when you tidy, it will stay tidy, and mentally you will feel better because you won't have to carry him and keep having arguments about stuff.

Liongirl111 · 07/10/2017 09:34

@motoko you posted that at just the right time. I was just getting very upset with myself and questioning my decision. Your response popped up just as the tears started. Thank you.

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